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May 26, 2024, 11:00:39 PM
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lol so what are you trying to say? I assume English is not your first language, but I'm having a hard time what you're trying to get at here.  Gambling can absolutely just be a hobby that doesn't lead to anything other than simple fun.  Just like drinking alcohol for me.  I do it just so often that I find it nothing more than a bit of fun.  I'm safe when I do it and I never let it get me in to any trouble.  Why can't gambling be the same? I don't really get what you're saying..

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May 26, 2024, 11:19:09 PM
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lol so what are you trying to say? I assume English is not your first language, but I'm having a hard time what you're trying to get at here.  Gambling can absolutely just be a hobby that doesn't lead to anything other than simple fun.  Just like drinking alcohol for me.  I do it just so often that I find it nothing more than a bit of fun.  I'm safe when I do it and I never let it get me in to any trouble.  Why can't gambling be the same? I don't really get what you're saying..
In fact the professionals take gambling as fun and the non-professionals take it as an addiction and choose it as their main source of income. Gambling and alcohol may be normal to you, but in countries where gambling and alcohol consumption are outlawed, they are seen as a major cause of social and state degradation. Since gambling and alcohol are banned in public, the people of these countries where two things are religiously forbidden will never be able to accept it with an independent mind.

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May 26, 2024, 11:30:19 PM
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Yes, gambling is bad to the society if the gambler is poor and keep creating new problem to other people.

Gambling isn't bad to the society if the gambler is rich and he like to help other people by giving free money, people will think he's like a God and gambling isn't a problem at all.

Can you see the difference? I believe you can. Wink
Both of your points are correct and I'd like to add a little more agreement with you. As you have brought up the issue through gambling of rich and poor but I will only highlight an age based ill effect of gambling. In my country generally teenagers below 18 years of age and school college students are showing more interest in online gambling thus gambling is acting as a hindrance to the career of our country's children. 
How do you see the matter?

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May 27, 2024, 11:19:28 AM
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lol so what are you trying to say? I assume English is not your first language, but I'm having a hard time what you're trying to get at here.  Gambling can absolutely just be a hobby that doesn't lead to anything other than simple fun.  Just like drinking alcohol for me.  I do it just so often that I find it nothing more than a bit of fun.  I'm safe when I do it and I never let it get me in to any trouble.  Why can't gambling be the same? I don't really get what you're saying..
In fact the professionals take gambling as fun and the non-professionals take it as an addiction and choose it as their main source of income. Gambling and alcohol may be normal to you, but in countries where gambling and alcohol consumption are outlawed, they are seen as a major cause of social and state degradation. Since gambling and alcohol are banned in public, the people of these countries where two things are religiously forbidden will never be able to accept it with an independent mind.
This awful problem of gambling addiction must be taken seriously. Financial losses are compounded by family and neighborhood breakdowns. Not judging anyone. Each of us has undesirable habits, but others are more prone to addiction. However, we must acknowledge its dangers and protect the weakest.

This includes encouraging responsible gambling, raising awareness of addiction, and supporting those in need. It also involves openly discussing how religion and culture affect gambling. Do not assume there is one right answer. Its good that countries have different policies. Everyone agrees that protecting our people is very vital. We should work together to defend rights and reduce gambling risk.

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May 27, 2024, 11:27:29 AM
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So what I'm trying to conclude is that gambling isn't something you should take as a hobby or as a means of earning just to make a living. So what are your thoughts?

Everything is absolutely correct. And it seems to me that gambling is an activity mainly for single people. After people find a couple or start a family, they don't have much free time. They have responsible responsibilities, which they adhere to without fail. Also, in the family, one of the spouses always supports the other, which is why gambling addiction does not have such a great chance for someone who is a gambler in the family. It will be like being protected. And that's why I think that lonely people need to be more careful, because they are left only to themselves.

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May 27, 2024, 11:30:45 AM
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In fact the professionals take gambling as fun and the non-professionals take it as an addiction and choose it as their main source of income.

Well, here, you speak for everyone who is simply a game lover. Will the moment that I go to a casino or gather with friends to play online look like a desire to make money? I would start with the fact that work is work, and play always remains play. And using the word “earn” is incorrect. Especially as a source of main income. Such people have always been interesting. Explain to me, please, that if people don’t work anywhere, where do they get money to play?
But returning to the topic, society must educate its people on freedom and a correct understanding of what is good and what is bad. By issuing regular bans, such a government only provokes people to go against it and thereby call games harmful, but the point is in the system itself and the regular bans.

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May 27, 2024, 12:02:28 PM
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So what I'm trying to conclude is that gambling isn't something you should take as a hobby or as a means of earning just to make a living. So what are your thoughts?

Everything is absolutely correct. And it seems to me that gambling is an activity mainly for single people. After people find a couple or start a family, they don't have much free time. They have responsible responsibilities, which they adhere to without fail. Also, in the family, one of the spouses always supports the other, which is why gambling addiction does not have such a great chance for someone who is a gambler in the family. It will be like being protected. And that's why I think that lonely people need to be more careful, because they are left only to themselves.

Same thoughts as mine, I also believe that gambling is much better to do by a single person because once a person has their own family, It seems that it will be difficult for him to manage the time and money that he has, especially if a person only earns the right amount, there is nothing wrong if a person with a family gambles as long as he can sustain the needs of his family and he does not neglected them.



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May 27, 2024, 01:08:42 PM
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We all mistakenly believe that gambling is harmful to society. But let's think about why people are so drawn to gambling? Do you think this is an accident? If you study the history of probability theory, it was gambling that served as the impetus that led to the emergence of this theory. As you know, probability theory appeared in the 17th century.   Gerolamo Cardano, Blaise Pascal and Pierre Fermat discovered the first probabilistic laws that underlie probability theory. These scientists investigated complex issues related to the division of bets in gambling and discovered the first laws in correspondence among themselves. Their work was continued by Christiaan Huygens, who introduced the basic concepts in this theory. These are concepts such as probability, random variable and mathematical expectation. Would all this have happened if there were no gambling?

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May 27, 2024, 01:45:35 PM
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So what I'm trying to conclude is that gambling isn't something you should take as a hobby or as a means of earning just to make a living. So what are your thoughts?

Everything is absolutely correct. And it seems to me that gambling is an activity mainly for single people. After people find a couple or start a family, they don't have much free time. They have responsible responsibilities, which they adhere to without fail. Also, in the family, one of the spouses always supports the other, which is why gambling addiction does not have such a great chance for someone who is a gambler in the family. It will be like being protected. And that's why I think that lonely people need to be more careful, because they are left only to themselves.
In casino games, yes I would agree with that. But, when it comes to sports betting, I think even a family man can do it. Just like today, I am a fan of one team in basketball so I put some money for them and then the total score went over the given amount and I won both. But, even if I lose it, I won't mind at all because it gave me the excitement while watching the game and I actually scream my lungs out just to cheer for the team I am rooting for with my money on the line.
It's not an expensive habit because you won't be in front of the screen for the whole day. All you have to do is place your bet, watch the game, and enjoy it.
I don't think anyone will be addicted to that, in my opinion. It's just a simple bet that could add some spice while watching the game of your preferred team.

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May 27, 2024, 02:48:29 PM
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Same thoughts as mine, I also believe that gambling is much better to do by a single person because once a person has their own family, It seems that it will be difficult for him to manage the time and money that he has, especially if a person only earns the right amount, there is nothing wrong if a person with a family gambles as long as he can sustain the needs of his family and he does not neglected them.
If they are still single, gambling certainly won't be a problem, because if we have financial problems then we ourselves will experience difficulties, but if we have a family, of course we have responsibilities and must be able to meet our family's needs, so I think It's really not good if we gamble because we have responsibilities to our family and if they have a mediocre income but still gamble, of course this is very risky because if they often lose at gambling, of course this will be a problem.

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May 27, 2024, 02:59:52 PM
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Yes, gambling is bad to the society if the gambler is poor and keep creating new problem to other people.

Gambling isn't bad to the society if the gambler is rich and he like to help other people by giving free money, people will think he's like a God and gambling isn't a problem at all.

Can you see the difference? I believe you can. Wink
Both of your points are correct and I'd like to add a little more agreement with you. As you have brought up the issue through gambling of rich and poor but I will only highlight an age based ill effect of gambling. In my country generally teenagers below 18 years of age and school college students are showing more interest in online gambling thus gambling is acting as a hindrance to the career of our country's children. 
How do you see the matter?
There is nothing out there without a side effect even though they might claim there is no side effect but we all know that there is one way or the other, why did I say this? gambling has been seen as normal as long as it doesn't temper with our day to day life but when a father is doing his gambling as a norm while the children keeps watching him at some point since it's acceptable to people around the children will eventually venture into it and that's exactly what's happening to those children that are practicing gambling at a young at in school now using online gambling to escape the rules of 18+.

There is no way that we wouldn't see something bad about gambling, so we just have to either increase the rules or try as much as possible as the parents to shaping the children in a way that they won't look into it at a young age therefore endangering the country's future generally.

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May 27, 2024, 03:32:51 PM
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Same thoughts as mine, I also believe that gambling is much better to do by a single person because once a person has their own family, It seems that it will be difficult for him to manage the time and money that he has, especially if a person only earns the right amount, there is nothing wrong if a person with a family gambles as long as he can sustain the needs of his family and he does not neglected them.
If they are still single, gambling certainly won't be a problem, because if we have financial problems then we ourselves will experience difficulties, but if we have a family, of course we have responsibilities and must be able to meet our family's needs, so I think It's really not good if we gamble because we have responsibilities to our family and if they have a mediocre income but still gamble, of course this is very risky because if they often lose at gambling, of course this will be a problem.
There's so much difference in terms of being a single or being that having your own family considering about that responsibilities then it is really something that you would really be needing to be that careful when it comes to spending. If you are someone whose that single then you wont really be that making yourself having that kind of responsibility on which it would really be that a common reaction to have. Gambling would really be that only bad on the moment that you do find yourself having that kind of spending on which it is really that already out of control. At the moment that you do find yourself
on which you are really that having that kind of spending on which it is really that out of your limit then you are just basically putting up yourself into such big trouble and this is something that
we dont really like to happen.

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May 27, 2024, 03:37:34 PM
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lol so what are you trying to say? I assume English is not your first language, but I'm having a hard time what you're trying to get at here.  Gambling can absolutely just be a hobby that doesn't lead to anything other than simple fun.  Just like drinking alcohol for me.  I do it just so often that I find it nothing more than a bit of fun.  I'm safe when I do it and I never let it get me in to any trouble.  Why can't gambling be the same? I don't really get what you're saying..
gambling in it self doesn't get anyone into a problem rather people are the ones who allow their selves get into trouble resulting from their carefree attitudes towards gambling of which they do get into trouble probably because they are unable to get their selves fixed  especially when they get into issues where they got to use peoples funds to gamble and it turns out they are unable to get it replaced before the owner probable gets need of it and eventually gets to the point they actually get to have issues because they are unable to make refunds or pay back the money they are owing their creditors.

away from owing people there are times these gamblers especially addicts get into problem trying to raise funds to sponsor their gambling habit by probably going to sell of their properties or that which belongs to both them and family members or even friends and at the end of the day they are unable to get to replace it probably  by getting to buy and replace back such as they weren't able to win the game they use the money they realized from that which they sold to gamble

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May 27, 2024, 03:49:33 PM
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In answer to your question, I will say that the most important thing in gambling for participants is not to use money that you cannot afford to lose, money to pay bills. money for the family, money for loans, etc. If a person cannot restrain himself and spends what is necessary for life, then he should stop gambling so that there are no terrible consequences
Well, people who spend what they aren't supposed to be spending aren't in their right senses because a person who is sane and is in his senses wouldn't do something like that. Gamblers who once get addicted to gambling lose the sense to think critically over matters such as how much money they need to spend on gambling and how much time they need to give to their gambling activities.

This is the reason why gambling addicts mostly lose what they can't even afford to lose because they forget that they aren't supposed to use that money for their gambling activities, or they think that they can recover what they have lost earlier if they use those funds but only to lose it at the end and then uselessly regret.

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May 27, 2024, 04:01:30 PM
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Same thoughts as mine, I also believe that gambling is much better to do by a single person because once a person has their own family, It seems that it will be difficult for him to manage the time and money that he has, especially if a person only earns the right amount, there is nothing wrong if a person with a family gambles as long as he can sustain the needs of his family and he does not neglected them.
If they are still single, gambling certainly won't be a problem, because if we have financial problems then we ourselves will experience difficulties, but if we have a family, of course we have responsibilities and must be able to meet our family's needs, so I think It's really not good if we gamble because we have responsibilities to our family and if they have a mediocre income but still gamble, of course this is very risky because if they often lose at gambling, of course this will be a problem.

There are some rich dudes whom you don't need to worry about their gambling lifestyle because they have a lot of money, can gamble with any amount they want, and still have enough money to handle the family's needs. Unless the person has a gambling addiction problem, he can have other family problems. Apart from not providing money for family needs, he can end up not giving enough attention to his wife and kids. Some poor gamblers too also have such a gambling lifestyle, but the problem starts if they are addicted gamblers, when they are gambling to fulfill family needs, or maybe they are using the money meant for family use to gamble. 

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May 28, 2024, 02:11:48 AM
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In fact the professionals take gambling as fun and the non-professionals take it as an addiction and choose it as their main source of income. Gambling and alcohol may be normal to you, but in countries where gambling and alcohol consumption are outlawed, they are seen as a major cause of social and state degradation. Since gambling and alcohol are banned in public, the people of these countries where two things are religiously forbidden will never be able to accept it with an independent mind.
Don't professional gamblers also consider gambling as their source of income? because they are smarter and can master gambling well so they can make a profit and non-professional gamblers tend to be more reckless in gambling and just bet carelessly and hope to make a profit. In theory they have different knowledge and responsibilities but their goals are the same and they can also Considering it for fun depends on those who use it, whether to have fun or make money, but most gamblers definitely want to win, even though they only want fun, no one wants to lose when gambling.

For countries that prohibit gambling, this is considered bad by most people because they think that gambling is a devil's game and is detrimental to its users because people see examples of many people going bankrupt, committing suicide, being addicted and having their lives destroyed because of gambling, therefore gambling considered bad and unacceptable in a country that already considers gambling to be a bad thing, but people are not aware that among the many bad things there are still those who are successful, so it actually depends on a person's use of gambling.

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May 28, 2024, 02:31:49 AM
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lol so what are you trying to say? I assume English is not your first language, but I'm having a hard time what you're trying to get at here.  Gambling can absolutely just be a hobby that doesn't lead to anything other than simple fun.  Just like drinking alcohol for me.  I do it just so often that I find it nothing more than a bit of fun.  I'm safe when I do it and I never let it get me in to any trouble.  Why can't gambling be the same? I don't really get what you're saying..
In fact the professionals take gambling as fun and the non-professionals take it as an addiction and choose it as their main source of income. Gambling and alcohol may be normal to you, but in countries where gambling and alcohol consumption are outlawed, they are seen as a major cause of social and state degradation. Since gambling and alcohol are banned in public, the people of these countries where two things are religiously forbidden will never be able to accept it with an independent mind.


I can't stop laughing when I saw this, so we have professional gamblers and unprofessional gamblers, wow.. what's the degree to become a professional gamblers?.
Sincerely we make illusion out of things, every gambler is on same scale what differentiates them is the ability to control and discipline themselves. I don't see a scenario whereby we talk about gambling to be fun and another to be Money making, when you place the bet or gambled did you remove the winning amount?, I see that as an antidote to ease weakness in gamblers, nevertheless be it for fun or whatever one can still get addicted and expose to the bad consequences of gambling as OP, have well listed out.
I even see those who gamble "fun" to be those who are more prone to addiction because of much Dopamine rush and there brain already programmed to it.

Gambling should be done in Moderation and Money Management is essential,if your habit is getting worse I strongly advise you Quit Gambling.

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May 28, 2024, 06:54:23 AM
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People who gambles can be at risk of this following categories of harm.
(1) Financial harms
(2) Erosion of savings
(3) Filling for bankruptcy
(4) Relationship conflicts
(5) Neglect of relationship with significant other
(6) Neglect of relationship with children
(7) Extend family and friends
(Cool Social isolation
(9) Emotional or psychological distress

I don't wanna play "the devil's advocate" role here, but I have a question.
Do you really think that those people won't have the same problems, if they don't gamble at all? Some people are simply more vulnerable to depressions, addictions, etc. Gambling isn't the main cause of their problems. Gambling is the trigger, that could make their financial and emotional situation 10 times worse. It there wasn't any gambling, the same people could be drug addicts, porn addicts or alcoholics and their problems could be pretty much the same.
Anyway, the topic "Is gambling bad?" has been discussed 1000 times before. Your forum thread doesn't add anything new to the discussion.

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May 28, 2024, 11:05:50 AM
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So what I'm trying to conclude is that gambling isn't something you should take as a hobby or as a means of earning just to make a living. So what are your thoughts?

I don't think people take it as a hobby but if it means a lot to people because of the ability for you to win no arguments if you get your predictions correct then they will give you your win, and people even believe in gambling than even actual jobs because nobody will stress the only thing you have to do is getting your predictions right and you are good to go a lot of people have failed to understand gambling and how to gamble been an addict does not make a gambler, some people waste money and call it gambling, no analysis they just waste time and money. you should understand which part you will select to gamble, casino or sport, not that you do everything blindly have a base of why and what you want to go for, there are people that don't do any other thing but gamble and they are doing very well for them self people like that have already understood gambling.

Everything is absolutely correct. And it seems to me that gambling is an activity mainly for single people. After people find a couple or start a family, they don't have much free time. They have responsible responsibilities, which they adhere to without fail. Also, in the family, one of the spouses always supports the other, which is why gambling addiction does not have such a great chance for someone who is a gambler in the family. It will be like being protected. And that's why I think that lonely people need to be more careful, because they are left only to themselves.

Gambling is for everyone if you have the mind and the money go ahead it is fun but it comes with extra joy when you win, and most times that joy comes with extra joy that you will want to gamble more and if you know all the tactics then you wont have a problem with gambling. and if you want to enjoy gambling truly you must also invest your time in it. and joining a family with your gambling habit wont hold a good result because they might see you as an irresponsible fellow and it is always not the way they seem to be doing gambling. to avoid a lot of explanation, just hide the habit from them and you will be free from a lot of drama.

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There are some rich dudes whom you don't need to worry about their gambling lifestyle because they have a lot of money, can gamble with any amount they want, and still have enough money to handle the family's needs. Unless the person has a gambling addiction problem, he can have other family problems. Apart from not providing money for family needs, he can end up not giving enough attention to his wife and kids. Some poor gamblers too also have such a gambling lifestyle, but the problem starts if they are addicted gamblers, when they are gambling to fulfill family needs, or maybe they are using the money meant for family use to gamble. 

Indeed, there are some rich people who have a lot of money so they can gamble as they wish and it doesn't affect their family's needs, but even though they have enough spare money, of course the opportunity for them to become addicted is still there, and of course they can become addicted if they lose self-control. when gambling and of course it will affect his finances. where at first they don't have problems with their finances and needs, but when they become addicted to gambling, of course financial problems and other problems can occur.

Of course, when they become addicted to gambling, what will most likely happen is that they will only focus on the gambling they want. and of course that will enable them to ignore everything around them, including their wife or children. Apart from that, someone who is addicted to gambling will certainly experience a change in attitude where they will become a more stubborn person and tend to only prioritize their ego.

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