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Question: Who do you think will win
Usyk by KO - 8 (57.1%)
Usyk by Decision - 4 (28.6%)
Dubois by KO - 2 (14.3%)
Dubois by Decision - 0 (0%)
Draw - 0 (0%)
Total Voters: 14

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Author Topic: Oleksandr Usyk VS Daniel Dubois For The Undisputed heavyweight champion  (Read 377 times)
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August 28, 2023, 07:42:36 PM
 #61

I don’t think it was a low blow. The rules state anything at the navel or above is a legal shot & I believe it was. It was a legitimate body shot, Usyk was hurt and faked a low blow. It’s gamesmanship, borderline cheating but it is what it is. Winners will do whatever they can to win.

Dubois was effectively robbed of a win and a place as a world champion. The fight just further convinces me that Usyk is a cruiserweight fighting at heavyweight. Tyson Fury is going to destroy him when they meet.

https://youtu.be/a85RLi8XMmE?si=Lgj6x0Luq4eiFSZc
Here is a video where Usyk shows where his navel is.
https://streamable.com/naf2mz
Here is the video of the blow. It seems obvious to me that the blow hits the area where the abdominal muscles already narrow into the groin area and this is exactly below the navel.

In general, it is rather strange to talk about a robbery when one of the boxers was completely declassed and lost by knockout, based on one dirty blow.

With how things went on this match, we can expect that Dubois' camp may ask for a re-match with Usyk.
This controversy won't just die down without getting a solid confirmation that Usyk really wins over Dubois.
Some individuals like Frank Warren (English promoter) are even calling this match as a "no contest" and ask for a rematch.
But with such controversy, this will be a good marketing propaganda to gain high interest from the boxing fans.
They can even earn huge purse split if they will make their re-match happen and capitalize this major controversy.
Let us see how both camps will react on this matter and if they are up to this request from the community.
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August 28, 2023, 07:52:20 PM
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Definitely one of the best fights in the recent months, despite that controversy. IMO a judge's mistake should be re-watched during the rest of the fight and used to change points before the end of the game. I can't believe in a fight of this level they were able to let it slip.
Congratulations to Usyk because he was fighting well, but could've at least lost points in that knockdown if not for the judge's mistake. Maybe they were trying to be more compassionate towards Ukraine's current situation and ready to let some mistakes slip? Who knows...

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August 28, 2023, 07:58:00 PM
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I don’t think it was a low blow. The rules state anything at the navel or above is a legal shot & I believe it was. It was a legitimate body shot, Usyk was hurt and faked a low blow. It’s gamesmanship, borderline cheating but it is what it is. Winners will do whatever they can to win.

Dubois was effectively robbed of a win and a place as a world champion. The fight just further convinces me that Usyk is a cruiserweight fighting at heavyweight. Tyson Fury is going to destroy him when they meet.

https://youtu.be/a85RLi8XMmE?si=Lgj6x0Luq4eiFSZc
Here is a video where Usyk shows where his navel is.
https://streamable.com/naf2mz
Here is the video of the blow. It seems obvious to me that the blow hits the area where the abdominal muscles already narrow into the groin area and this is exactly below the navel.

In general, it is rather strange to talk about a robbery when one of the boxers was completely declassed and lost by knockout, based on one dirty blow.

We’ll agree to disagree, not a low blow imo.

https://youtube.com/shorts/kVsPTjpEHqI?si=G9wZqUkK2wN6_YDb

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August 28, 2023, 11:12:04 PM
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There was a little buzz going to the fight because there were no trash talks both, fighters were civil to each other but it became controversial because of the supposed and debated punch by Dubois, The boxing community is divided on this issue.
Usyk's future opponents will target his body because he was exposed by Dubois and the opposing camp will have to check Usyk's protective belt because many thought in Dubois's fight that Usyk's protective belt was placed too high.

Overall it was a good fight We got what we expected both fighters came to fight, It's controversial but it invites a lot of discussion.

I'm locking this thread who knows maybe they meet again in the future if that happens there will be a lot of adjustments in both camps.

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