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Hi! https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/transactions/btc/8855613e7e5b8bc34acd4f9e8e61fc3f046084b00ba0e92e45b891949ca4cbd1Yesterday I sent some BTC from blockchain wallet to my electrum wallet and this transaction doesnt display in my electrum wallet. It doesnt confirm yet but previously all transctions displayed in eletcrum wallet. I've checked receiving address and for experiment sent another very small amount to this address and everything was ok - it displays in history. And one more thing I've try to accelerate this transaction through VIABTC but it gives me an error "this TXID doesn't exist", This is the first time I've seen such an error
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August 08, 2023, 07:38:33 AM |
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The transaction pays quite a low fee; 3.988Sat/vByte. Currently, transactions that pays a fee of below 4.2satoshi/vbytes are purged. Hence, your transaction has a fairly bad propagation and thus some of the nodes on the network might not be able to see your transaction. You can try rebroadcasting the transaction once the minimum relay fee drops.
Blockchain.com is the only one that is seeing it as it didn't get propagated well in the network.
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August 08, 2023, 07:41:56 AM |
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Hi! https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/transactions/btc/8855613e7e5b8bc34acd4f9e8e61fc3f046084b00ba0e92e45b891949ca4cbd1Yesterday I sent some BTC from blockchain wallet to my electrum wallet and this transaction doesnt display in my electrum wallet. It doesnt confirm yet but previously all transctions displayed in eletcrum wallet. I've checked receiving address and for experiment sent another very small amount to this address and everything was ok - it displays in history. And one more thing I've try to accelerate this transaction through VIABTC but it gives me an error "this TXID doesn't exist", This is the first time I've seen such an error This is happened because of the fee you paid for the transaction. This happened to me a couple of months ago. If you check carefully, you will notice that your transaction hash is not available on all blockchains. I tried blockchair but they did not find any transactions with this tx. If the address is correct, there is nothing to worry about. Either you will receive it once the fee decrease or it will be returned to the wallet after 14 days maybe?
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August 08, 2023, 07:43:08 AM Last edit: August 08, 2023, 07:53:12 AM by Charles-Tim |
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I do not know much about blockchain.com wallet, but some wallet will keep rebroadcasting your transaction, or the node will not drop the transaction due to its setting. It would be better to import your blockchain.com wallet seed phrase into Electrum and see or if (or wait) until you are able to pump the fee. If purging is around 4.41 sat/vbyte, that is the reason some mempool dropped the transaction already and you should be able to rebroadcast it. Either you will receive it once the fee decrease or it will be returned to the wallet after 14 days maybe?
Also for the transactions that nodes are not accepting the fee, if you have made transaction using such low fee or lower than the fee, likely the transaction would have also dropped from mempool and the sender would be able to rebroadcast the transaction again. Some nodes may set this differently, that is why it would be good for the OP to import the seed phrase to Electrum, if not able to rebroadcast the transaction on blockchain.com which is not a recommendable wallet.
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I took the liberty to fetch your dropped transaction's Signed Raw Transaction: 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 For now, you can't broadcast it since the majority of the mempools will reject it due to its fee rate. You can only save it locally to your wallet via: - Menu: "Tools->Load Transaction->From text"
- Paste the Raw Transaction above, click "Load Transaction".
- Then click "Add to History".
But even though your balance will appear, take note that it's not yet received by your wallet, in Bitcoin's blockchain or even in mempools. You'll have to broadcast it when the average " purging fee rate" is lower than that transaction's fee rate ( 3.9sat/vB). To broadcast it ( if Blockchain.com haven't rebroadcasted it already), simply open that local transaction from your history and click " Broadcast".
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Thank you for the advice. I am not worried about this situation. I have received payments with very small fees before and these transactions were in the status of unconfirmed for several weeks, but they still showed up in the history. This is the first time that a transaction is not in the history of the electrum and it is a bit puzzling
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August 08, 2023, 08:13:17 AM |
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I took the liberty to fetch your dropped transaction's Signed Raw Transaction: 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 For now, you can't broadcast it since the majority of the mempools will reject it due to its fee rate. You can only save it locally to your wallet via: - Menu: "Tools->Load Transaction->From text"
- Paste the Raw Transaction above, click "Load Transaction".
- Then click "Add to History".
But even though your balance will appear, take note that it's not yet received by your wallet, in Bitcoin's blockchain or even in mempools. You'll have to broadcast it when the average " purging fee rate" is lower than that transaction's fee rate ( 3.9sat/vB). To broadcast it ( if Blockchain.com haven't rebroadcasted it already), simply open that local transaction from your history and click " Broadcast". Thank you, it worked.
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Thank you for the advice. I am not worried about this situation. I have received payments with very small fees before and these transactions were in the status of unconfirmed for several weeks, but they still showed up in the history. This is the first time that a transaction is not in the history of the electrum and it is a bit puzzling
Make sure the addresses is yours. Check the address on Electrum and see if it is the same with that on the explorer. Make sure that your Electrum is synchronizing with the blockchain. Bonus: Use wallets that support replace-by-fee next time. If you used a wallet that support RBF, you will be able to pump the fee to have a higher fee that can make your transaction confirmed early. Bitcoin open source wallets that support replace-by-fee (RBF)If Electrum has shown the unconfirmed transaction, you can use CPFP to pump the transaction on Electrum. All you have to do is to send the unconfirmed coin or part of it to another address on your Electrum, using a higher fee that is able to get two of the transaction confirmed. Like using 11 to 17 sat/vbyte in the new (child) transaction.
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If the transaction is still unconfirmed I suggest import the backup seed from the blockchain wallet to Electum and bump the fee but I think it was already rejected from other nodes mentioned above it only shows on the blockchain but not on the other explorer. So if you move and import the seed backup to Electrum the old transaction won't show up and then you can create a new transaction just make sure this time change the fee higher than your old transaction or use the suggested fee from mempool.space.
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If Electrum has shown the unconfirmed transaction, you can use CPFP to pump the transaction on Electrum.
In the case OP has done what said above by nc50lc, the transaction should be local and since the node that OP is connected to doesn't have it on its mempool, it's not possible to do CPFP. If the transaction is still unconfirmed I suggest import the backup seed from the blockchain wallet to Electum and bump the fee but I think it was already rejected from other nodes mentioned above it only shows on the blockchain but not on the other explorer.
Even if the node OP is connected has that transaction in its mempool, it's not possible to bump the fee. The transaction hasn't been flagged as RBF. So if you move and import the seed backup to Electrum the old transaction won't show up and then you can create a new transaction just make sure this time change the fee higher than your old transaction or use the suggested fee from mempool.space.
This should work.
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August 08, 2023, 12:31:53 PM |
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For now, you can't broadcast it since the majority of the mempools will reject it due to its fee rate. You can only save it locally to your wallet via: - Menu: "Tools->Load Transaction->From text"
- Paste the Raw Transaction above, click "Load Transaction".
- Then click "Add to History".
But even though your balance will appear, take note that it's not yet received by your wallet, in Bitcoin's blockchain or even in mempools. You'll have to broadcast it when the average " purging fee rate" is lower than that transaction's fee rate ( 3.9sat/vB). To broadcast it ( if Blockchain.com haven't rebroadcasted it already), simply open that local transaction from your history and click " Broadcast". Oh wow. Thanks, man! As I said in my previous post, I had a similar issue a couple of months ago when I sent my Bitcoins from Bitcoin Core to my Electrum, and I set the lowest fee by mistake. I checked everything was correct, but my transaction wasn't appearing in Electrum. For this reason, I wasn't even able to use CPFP. I was stuck and didn't know what to do. Little Mouse helped me regarding this, and I don't remember what he did, but I guess the fee was dropped when my balance was credited. Thanks for sharing this, I have learned something new today, and I believe this will help me to help others as well.
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Oh wow. Thanks, man! As I said in my previous post, I had a similar issue a couple of months ago when I sent my Bitcoins from Bitcoin Core to my Electrum, and I set the lowest fee by mistake. I checked everything was correct, but my transaction wasn't appearing in Electrum. For this reason, I wasn't even able to use CPFP. I was stuck and didn't know what to do. Take note that you won't be able to CPFP a local transaction since any of its output aren't available in any node's mempool or blockchain. The child transaction wont be valid and will be rejected with the error: " bad-txns-inputs-missingorspent" The suggestion is just for assurance to get a copy of the transaction in case if it gets dropped from all mempools. In any case, since OP is the sender as well, he can just send another transaction after its dropped; However given that his wallet is blockchain.com, he may have to go in loops-&-hoops to do that so it's better if he can just re-broadcast the saved local txn in Electrum.
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Low fee Electrum wallet transaction disappearedWhen you send a transaction with very low fee rate, it can be seen by your Electrum wallet as unconfirmed coming transactions. Seen or not seen, then visually shows on your Electrum wallet transaction history, depends on what node is connected by your Electrum wallet. If your Electrum wallet connects to a node which drops that low fee-rate transaction from its mempool, Electrum will not show it and that is likely your case.
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Some Bitcoin clients work that way but not Electrum. You see, when Electrum seen a transaction but later got dropped by the selected server's mempool, it will remain in the history as a " local transaction". The instance that a transaction is not totally seen by Electrum is it didn't propagated and the server's mempool didn't received it. The linked issue is dealing with replaced unconfirmed parent and unconfirmed child transactions, which when the parent gets replaced, the children txns will automatically be invalidated and deleted from transaction history.
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August 09, 2023, 05:10:31 AM |
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However given that his wallet is blockchain.com, he may have to go in loops-&-hoops to do that so it's better if he can just re-broadcast the saved local txn in Electrum.
This is why using wallet software with features that can be utilized when needed is essential. Luckily my transaction did not drop, and it went through after a day. I was using Bitcoin Core 23.0.0, which I barely use as a wallet. I was trying to run it 24/7 to help the network, but it's almost impossible for me due to the power outage here. RBF was enabled on my Bitcoin Core, but I had nothing in my wallet to increase the fee then. I do not understand the interface as well. Since it went through, I didn't top up that wallet anymore and moved to Electrum permanently.
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If the transaction is still unconfirmed I suggest import the backup seed from the blockchain wallet to Electum and bump the fee but I think it was already rejected from other nodes mentioned above it only shows on the blockchain but not on the other explorer.
This will not work because the transaction when it was created was created by blockchain.com and that means the RBF flag will not work. For now, you can't broadcast it since the majority of the mempools will reject it due to its fee rate. You can only save it locally to your wallet via: - Menu: "Tools->Load Transaction->From text"
- Paste the Raw Transaction above, click "Load Transaction".
- Then click "Add to History".
I want to ask what is the point of rebroadcasting it, if he waits for several days and it is dropped, he can create a new transaction with a higher balance or extract the seed move it to any wallet that supports RBF like electrum? Or am I wrong? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif)
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I want to ask what is the point of rebroadcasting it, if he waits for several days and it is dropped, he can create a new transaction with a higher balance or extract the seed move it to any wallet that supports RBF like electrum? Or am I wrong? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) It is more convenient and safer, dealing with seed phrase is a sensitive matter which shouldn't be done just because of a single dropped transaction. And waiting for several days doesn't usually result in complete removal of a transaction due to ( although non majority) a significant number of nodes aren't using the default mempool expiry and size. Besides, it's Blockchain.com, I bet he'll need to contact their support to remove the transaction from his history even if it got dropped from all mempools. I wont question his wallet choice since it's not the topic. BTW, I've rebroadcasted it yesterday when mempools are low so OP won't have to bother himself with it and it's now confirmed.
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