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November 22, 2023, 09:34:39 PM
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I've never helped anyone who was addicted in gambling to stop his addiction and I don't think I can even help anyone do it because as far as I'm concerned, the only person who can stop a gambling addict from his addiction is the affected person. I've been a victim of gambling addiction before and no one was able to help me out of it until when I decided to help myself.
Hmm are you sure? You are here in the forum and you are also wearing a signature from a gambling company, which means you can mostly post on the gambling and gambling discussion boards.

And we all know that most of the topics here are about gambling addictions. So for sure, you have thrown a couple of suggestions on how can one overcome it or possibly avoid it, if they aren't an addict yet. If it's true, that we or other people (either addict or not) can't help the addicted gambler, then we shouldn't be seeing those gambling addiction threads here. We can help them actually but most of the help can only come from their selves.
Quitting gambling would really be starting from ourselves on which we could quit and involved as we do like. Addiction is something that would really be disrupting you on the time that
you are already spending up tons or on the time that you had made your finances that affected then it would really be just that right that you should really be that
mindful on quitting because if not then you would really be making yourself experience the worst things that you could really be having on your life.
You should really be that sensible on the things that you are doing or else it would really be making out such huge disaster or damage or devastation
which it would really make us regret.

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November 22, 2023, 09:41:32 PM
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 Honestly, I have never met or being close with someone who is highly addicted in gambling. Or if ever they are, maybe they are keeping it to theirselves because they always think that no one will be able to understand them or help them in any way. But if ever I have a close friend who falls deeply on gambling addiction, I will not force him to open up but give him the time to think it to himself until he's ready to share his burden. And when that time comes, the best way is just to listen to him and give him advices to control his gambling urge if he still want to get relieved from that worst situation.

Family and friends are also very important factors since they will serve as a strong back ups for the addicted gambler. Otherwise, if he has no one to share, he might get into suicidal which is very common to those addicted gamblers who have never felt support and care from their loved ones.

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November 23, 2023, 07:06:10 AM
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You can only change someone who wants to be changed. Trying to help someone who does not want to be changed is a waste of time. I can help someone who is almost getting addicted as an unprofessional, than someone who has become addicted. Most addicted gamblers require more professional help that what I can offer. The best I can do is to recommend them for help by telling them the need help, or I can offer to pay for the help fee for these people required by the professionals. 
Correct base on my experience. I have an uncle that is addicted in gambling despite they are poor since he is jobless and only relying to my grandparents sustain. His family including his parents always telling him to stop gambling yet he keeps doing that even though he always losing money that he can use to sustain his family properly.

Until he died, he never stop gambling even though he always create trouble to people around him. People that didn’t want to change is really a waste of time. They should be the one who realize that they are garbage because they will keep doing what they are doing when someone showing care to stop them.
That's the point, most gambling addicts won't admit that they are addicted to it and they don't want to change or leave it, which is why you can't talk them out of it or convince them that they are in a state that is bad for them and the people around them and if they don't get out of that state now, it will keep getting worse. You can only talk sense into a person who, deep inside, understands that they are in trouble and their life is going downhill and they need to find a solution to that, and they were just not being able to communicate it properly or were afraid to do it thinking that people might shame them for that.

So, in all this, the biggest challenge is to first find out if a person who you know gambles is addicted to it or not, and if they are addicted, do they realize or admit it or they think they are doing okay and don't want to stop gambling or get away from it, and it's not easy to do all that at all, believe me.

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November 23, 2023, 10:12:44 AM
 #104

So, in all this, the biggest challenge is to first find out if a person who you know gambles is addicted to it or not, and if they are addicted, do they realize or admit it or they think they are doing okay and don't want to stop gambling or get away from it, and it's not easy to do all that at all, believe me.
It's a job for mental health counselor or doctor to find out such kind people, because there's no obligation for us to recover people from addiction, we have our own problem too. So if there's a people become a gambling addict even it's in my family, as long as he not cause any harm to me, I wouldn't care.

It's his choice to become a gambling addict.
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November 25, 2023, 08:13:32 PM
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If I have a friend who a gambling addict, I will stay away against them and might cut off our relationship. Why? no one can change except themselves, if they're a good people they wouldn't become a gambling addict, as simple as that. So having a relationship with them might drag myself to become them or they will keep asking money because they already lose it for gambling.

It's a bit harsh to outright do this, but if this is what will work for you, then do it. Your mental health matters more than what other people will say.

But if I were in the situation, I will reach out and do my best to encourage my friend to get away from gambling and seek rehabilitation to completely disassociate himself in gambling. This way, I can show my concern as a true friend. I won't easily distance myself and rather try my best to let them be enlightened. For me, it's important that I at least got to try before completely giving up. That way, I can say I did what I can and will have no regrets such as having what if's and what could have been's.

It's true that they are the only one who can truly help themselves. But they also need guidance and support from those people that surround them. It's much motivating to recover if there are people cheering from you after all. Just learn to set boundaries of course. If you can't provide financial provision, then just give them moral support instead. Never ever lend them money because that's like tolerating their behavior.
Sometimes we are people who by taking care of ourselves in a moment can not distance ourselves from our true friends, I am one of those people who if someone needs me and I can help them, well I just do it, especially when it is in such a difficult situation difficult of an addiction, he needs support, he needs to be talked to, his mind to clear, to put things in his head where he does not allow him to think about gambling or doing similar things in a casino or making Sports bets , because he already has a developed mind, Maybe it's good to help a friend like that with something, maybe telling him that you're going to play soccer or something like that, maybe doing something that makes them happy, that's at least closer than that to helping a person who has an addiction. , then the things that can be done for these people are beautiful and to help I think that in the future will be given back but in other ways, let's remember that we are in a world where many times we do not understand things, but I know that things are beautiful , they bring good things.

In any of the cases, people are very constant with their actions, I have seen that some members of my own family are selfish with me, when in the end I have never been, and when they needed me, I gave them the help they needed. It was within my reach, even with money and everything, but when a person like them is cool, and they see that I teach something and that they have it or are doing something that can help me, they became silent, and that is interpreted by me as playing dirty, it's like seeing them climb to the highest point stepping on me when they could also help me climb, but like everything good is good, and brings good things, bad climbs bring bad things, they were able to climb but they came down in an impressive way, They are no longer at the top, the good thing about doing things well, especially with helping people, is that you Climb without trampling on Andie, and when you climb you don't slip, on the contrary you are still higher up.

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November 25, 2023, 09:25:43 PM
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Honestly, I have never met or being close with someone who is highly addicted in gambling. Or if ever they are, maybe they are keeping it to theirselves because they always think that no one will be able to understand them or help them in any way. But if ever I have a close friend who falls deeply on gambling addiction, I will not force him to open up but give him the time to think it to himself until he's ready to share his burden. And when that time comes, the best way is just to listen to him and give him advices to control his gambling urge if he still want to get relieved from that worst situation.

Family and friends are also very important factors since they will serve as a strong back ups for the addicted gambler. Otherwise, if he has no one to share, he might get into suicidal which is very common to those addicted gamblers who have never felt support and care from their loved ones.

The journey of curing addiction doesn't begin with the addicted person alone. You can begin by engaging the player with few questions, regarding his strange behavior. Because most gambling addicts, don't feel comfortable opening up to friends who don't show concern. It's important to observe the attitude of your friends. The process doesn't require force, they need help, so forcing them will only give reasons to avoid you. Keeping in touch with gambling friends can be done socially, inviting them to fun activities, as a way of distracting the addicted person from gambling. At some point he'll confide in you and decide to share his story. Waiting for him to make the first move, without your effort, isn't effective. You can wait forever, and when it gets delayed, your friend's addiction can worsen. If you notice, everyone wants to live a promising life, that's why when addicts associate with friends, or family, they still claim to be fine. While alone the depression eats them up and cause more havoc to their brain. Its heartbreaking for parents to discover such problem from their ward. Especially, when they don't understand how their wealth has been misused by their wards. 

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