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October 27, 2023, 04:50:59 PM
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You Can Marinate In Water Heated By Bitcoin Mining At This NYC Spa
Bathhouse has one location in Williamsburg, Brooklyn and another opening in Flatiron, NYC
Bathhouse is a super-trendy spa located in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, with a new location set to open sometime in the near future in Manhattan’s Flatiron district. If its sans serif font and ultra-minimalist website don’t already scream New York City Elite, then the way it heats its pools absolutely shouts it from the rooftops: Bathhouse mines bitcoin to warm its baths.

https://kotaku.com/bathhouse-nyc-spa-bitcoin-asics-1850958168

Write to them so that they distribute invitations to the USA miners from the forum bitcointalk.org Smiley

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October 28, 2023, 11:54:06 AM
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Read the article and sounds more like one of those influencer based cool-looking hype projects and seeing that linus guy's name in the article I am more convinced of the same.

Baths will be useful for bathing and heat will be in excess - which indirectly means they will pollute the environment too with the excess heat and a bunch of angry neighbors too.

Another fact is that since the place is going to be targeting bitcoin users, any device you own will be a target for hack since you are going to leave that in a locker or so while bathing. Be ready for facing robbery gangs too. Grin

Would like to hear from any forum member who may have visited the place.

 
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October 28, 2023, 04:50:16 PM
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Usually in serious spa salons there are no lockers for things. Usually you book a bath apartment for a family or company for a while and there are no strangers in this room. There are also public bath complexes where there are lockers, but I haven’t been to such baths for a long time.

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November 10, 2023, 08:00:54 PM
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You Can Marinate In Water Heated By Bitcoin Mining At This NYC Spa
Bathhouse has one location in Williamsburg, Brooklyn and another opening in Flatiron, NYC
Bathhouse is a super-trendy spa located in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, with a new location set to open sometime in the near future in Manhattan’s Flatiron district. If its sans serif font and ultra-minimalist website don’t already scream New York City Elite, then the way it heats its pools absolutely shouts it from the rooftops: Bathhouse mines bitcoin to warm its baths.

https://kotaku.com/bathhouse-nyc-spa-bitcoin-asics-1850958168
This is great recycling, putting the heat from mining to beneficial use so it does not become a waste or a problem.

People in countries with extreme cold and freezing weather who mine bitcoins can benefits from this because they can also copy this method of using the heat generated by their mining machines to warm and heat up the house and also heat up water, reducing the cost they spend on the electricity for house heaters.

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November 11, 2023, 02:44:25 PM
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You Can Marinate In Water Heated By Bitcoin Mining At This NYC Spa
Bathhouse has one location in Williamsburg, Brooklyn and another opening in Flatiron, NYC
Bathhouse is a super-trendy spa located in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, with a new location set to open sometime in the near future in Manhattan’s Flatiron district. If its sans serif font and ultra-minimalist website don’t already scream New York City Elite, then the way it heats its pools absolutely shouts it from the rooftops: Bathhouse mines bitcoin to warm its baths.

https://kotaku.com/bathhouse-nyc-spa-bitcoin-asics-1850958168
This is great recycling, putting the heat from mining to beneficial use so it does not become a waste or a problem.

People in countries with extreme cold and freezing weather who mine bitcoins can benefits from this because they can also copy this method of using the heat generated by their mining machines to warm and heat up the house and also heat up water, reducing the cost they spend on the electricity for house heaters.
This is good in theory, but when you start heating the water in the pool using ASICs, you will realize that you need a lot of ASICs; the efficiency of this method of heating water will be low. In some cases, it will be more profitable to use a household water heater, because the price of Bitcoin is low and the profit is small. And in the city it is very difficult to obtain permission for large electricity consumption and the price will be at a commercial rate.

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November 13, 2023, 07:20:19 PM
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This is good in theory, but when you start heating the water in the pool using ASICs, you will realize that you need a lot of ASICs; the efficiency of this method of heating water will be low. In some cases, it will be more profitable to use a household water heater, because the price of Bitcoin is low and the profit is small. And in the city it is very difficult to obtain permission for large electricity consumption and the price will be at a commercial rate.
I was going to ask the same question. How much heat are the miners generating which could heat the water so hot? Maybe I'm out of context but I have recently seen, (not recently but maybe few months ago) Linus tech tips aka LTT on YouTube. He was demonstrating how you can water cool your PC using your pool in the backyard. He was cooling the PC using his pool water and as he measured the heat, there was no change whatsoever. Maybe this doesn't relate to this. But they work the same way. Increase the amount of miners and you get more heat. But is it capable of heating the water to a level to be considered as hot.

Also when the heat is generated, looping that same water in order to cool down those miners may not be efficient and could eventually decrease the performance by generating more heat. I don't know how they are harvesting the heat in order to heat up water. But I think it's just a theme in order to attract more people. I'm still confused about this.
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This is good in theory, but when you start heating the water in the pool using ASICs, you will realize that you need a lot of ASICs; the efficiency of this method of heating water will be low. In some cases, it will be more profitable to use a household water heater, because the price of Bitcoin is low and the profit is small. And in the city it is very difficult to obtain permission for large electricity consumption and the price will be at a commercial rate.
I was going to ask the same question. How much heat are the miners generating which could heat the water so hot? Maybe I'm out of context but I have recently seen, (not recently but maybe few months ago) Linus tech tips aka LTT on YouTube. He was demonstrating how you can water cool your PC using your pool in the backyard. He was cooling the PC using his pool water and as he measured the heat, there was no change whatsoever. Maybe this doesn't relate to this. But they work the same way. Increase the amount of miners and you get more heat. But is it capable of heating the water to a level to be considered as hot.

Also when the heat is generated, looping that same water in order to cool down those miners may not be efficient and could eventually decrease the performance by generating more heat. I don't know how they are harvesting the heat in order to heat up water. But I think it's just a theme in order to attract more people. I'm still confused about this.
Swimming pools differ in water volume, from a small pool with 6 cubic meters of water to large pools in bath complexes with 30 cubic meters of water or more. For each pool it is necessary to make a calculation of the necessary equipment. The ideal option is not to use a radiator, but chlorinated water is most likely not suitable for cooling ASICs, unless they have special tubes.

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November 15, 2023, 06:54:38 PM
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Swimming pools differ in water volume, from a small pool with 6 cubic meters of water to large pools in bath complexes with 30 cubic meters of water or more. For each pool it is necessary to make a calculation of the necessary equipment. The ideal option is not to use a radiator, but chlorinated water is most likely not suitable for cooling ASICs, unless they have special tubes.
Yeah, I understand that. But my question is what's the size of the pool or whatever it is in that spa in New York? Also, how are they harvesting the heat in order to make the water hot? If you use water cooling, then the same water keeps on looping and if the water itself is hot then how is that helping it to be cooled down? Either they are taking that heat to heat up the water somehow or it could be a double tubing process. One go straight to the water making it hot, and another tube is providing with cold water making the miners cold.

But it is also still not convincing. When you are supplying two types of water one of them being cold another one is hot, doesn't it eventually get averaged in a single temperature? Maybe they are doing something in a way that I don't understand or maybe I'm just dumb. I don't know man, I'm still confused.
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Swimming pools differ in water volume, from a small pool with 6 cubic meters of water to large pools in bath complexes with 30 cubic meters of water or more. For each pool it is necessary to make a calculation of the necessary equipment. The ideal option is not to use a radiator, but chlorinated water is most likely not suitable for cooling ASICs, unless they have special tubes.
Yeah, I understand that. But my question is what's the size of the pool or whatever it is in that spa in New York? Also, how are they harvesting the heat in order to make the water hot? If you use water cooling, then the same water keeps on looping and if the water itself is hot then how is that helping it to be cooled down? Either they are taking that heat to heat up the water somehow or it could be a double tubing process. One go straight to the water making it hot, and another tube is providing with cold water making the miners cold.

But it is also still not convincing. When you are supplying two types of water one of them being cold another one is hot, doesn't it eventually get averaged in a single temperature? Maybe they are doing something in a way that I don't understand or maybe I'm just dumb. I don't know man, I'm still confused.
Let's persuade philipma1957 to go to the Bitcoin spa Smiley Smiley
I looked at the price of electricity in New York and it is more than 15 cents there. I don’t think this is a lie, but this heating installation is more of an advertising nature than an industrial one. I think the easiest way is to use radiators because it's easier. And the operation of the installation itself does not have much effect.


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November 16, 2023, 06:07:41 PM
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Let's persuade philipma1957 to go to the Bitcoin spa Smiley Smiley
I looked at the price of electricity in New York and it is more than 15 cents there. I don’t think this is a lie, but this heating installation is more of an advertising nature than an industrial one. I think the easiest way is to use radiators because it's easier. And the operation of the installation itself does not have much effect.
So out of curiosity, I did some research on this and not much information is out there. I came across this video on YouTube Bathhouse and Bitcoin. They submerge the whole mining ring in a biodegradable liquid which is non-conductive to electricity but does absorb heat. Then it is directly sent to the pool. And new fluid is added when the old hot fluid has been transferred to the pool.
I got confused because the video I saw on LTT YouTube channel was using water cooling through tubes and looping the same water over and over. But this is totally different from what I have imagined. Even it seems legit, I'm still not convinced that the amount of heat generated from Bitcoin miners could heat up an entire pool. When the water is exposed to the weather, it will cool down faster because of wind.
It is more like an advertisement to attract people and show some uniqueness to their business. It is a fantastic marketing idea and they have done it very well. But Bitcoin miners heating up a pool is still not 100% accurate.
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ASICs are immersed in immersion liquid, which has dielectric properties and ASICs operate safely in it. I am sure that the cooling of this liquid and heating of the pool occurs through a heat exchanger. The disadvantage of immersion liquid is that it is not cheap. If you swim in such a liquid, its composition may change.

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November 19, 2023, 04:59:49 AM
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When this news came to the knowledge of the public some months ago, I could remember that it was received with mix feelings. While those of us in the bitcoin and mining community was excited and happy about it because of our we believed that it was a symbiotic relationship where both parties benefit, that is utilizing the heat generated from Bitcoin mining was beneficial to both parties, the other side of the arguments from folks who didn't get it was environmental concern. I always point them to well-researched articles that puts their arguments to rest. These materials helped shed light on the nuanced aspects of Bitcoin mining, addressing environmental concerns and offering a more comprehensive understanding of the situation.

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