Casinos not asking for KYC to register and play, but do require it to withdraw

[freedomgo]

Before starting gambling and making a deposit, a gambler should ask and answer himself - what is your goal when you gamble with crypto. With this I mean, you go casino for what reason? To gamble or to «stay anonymous and gamble with crypto» ? What is the real reason why so many people are afraid to pass KYC? Pass KYC before starting playing and relax. Or dont gamble with crypto at all. I see KYC in casinos as some kind of formality. They dont usually ask for much information, and I dont know how can someone fail with KYC (unless that person havent read ToS and gamble from forbidden country).

That thing with rejecting to pass KYC sometimes makes me funny. People give personal information to get a discount card to save few cents and never get back to that shop, and reject to pass KYC when they are about to spend hundred dollars.

Gambling sites restrict bet limits, odd limits/stake limits for various reasons, and also same happened for banned users. They can't play or can't play with good odds/stakes. For this reason, the user may need to create another account which might not be allowed and when the site asks to pass KYC the user fails to do that.

It's too risky to create a new account in the same casino when your main account is banned. It's much better to look for another casino and do the KYC first before starting to risk a significant amount of money. That way, you have already secured your account with KYC, and they won't ask for it anymore in the future. The problem with some casinos is they allow us to gamble for a while, but later they'll trigger that KYC requirement, and that's where the real trouble on us starts. Sometimes, even if we don't cheat, their system will tag us as cheaters and there's no way we can proved it, unless we'll take it somewhere ilke there's a 3rd party to judge the situation, maybe to the court where gamblers does not usually do.

[fullhdpixel]

It's too risky to create a new account in the same casino when your main account is banned. It's much better to look for another casino and do the KYC first before starting to risk a significant amount of money. That way, you have already secured your account with KYC, and they won't ask for it anymore in the future. The problem with some casinos is they allow us to gamble for a while, but later they'll trigger that KYC requirement, and that's where the real trouble on us starts. Sometimes, even if we don't cheat, their system will tag us as cheaters and there's no way we can proved it, unless we'll take it somewhere ilke there's a 3rd party to judge the situation, maybe to the court where gamblers does not usually do.

Yes but I don't think even think they will let you do that. Almost all sites have our records, not only of IP address, but other things too like the mac address of devices that we use. This is why that even if we use a different IP or sim card to register on the same site, we are wondering on why they still can detect us.

There are still plenty of casinos out there, so why we should forced ourselves on them anyway, right? Some sites don't mandate a KYC but there are benefits of doing a KYC first. Even me, I also do this. For the casino owners, they must be transparent and clear all their rules especially about this KYC, so that players can decide early if they will do it or not.

[rodskee]

Then they must be mindful towards the implemented rules of the casino and see for their self if KYC is mentioned since if there's changes happen and suddenly they put that because they have clear intention to invalidate someone especially if there's a big win occur on that casino.

Those cases is somehow happening on some casino so I with those incident happened then its more better for us not to get afraid with KYC since it can save us from any potential issue that a casino might use to us.

Much better if we gamble on those reputable KYC compliant casino than those casino who use those word but end up cheating us.

When you select any casino then you should select the best one. If you can select the best casino
then there will be no problem withdrawing the fund from the site and this type of situation may not happen.
And also on reputed casinos we have no problem

And this is why we must live with that KYC thing in gambling Online casino as long as we are
dealing with the legit and reputable that we can find mostly in this forum , there are lot of  very familiar
and worth trusting casino here and we don't need to lurk around just to find new or other casino that in
the end will cheat us if not taking advantage of our CLIENT/PROVIDER relationship .

Names of the casinos are mostly can be seen in under each account here waving in their
signature banners like yours and mine , so players only need to just check each name and about
their attitude from many years of serving players.

[mak013]

The main problem with KYC is that it is mostly when you withdraw prize. Even in reputed casinos you lose your time for it. It would be more fair to have an opportunity to KYC yourself when you want or during the registration, but casinos don`t want to do so. They can freeze your prize for some time, or someone can fail KYC and they willn`t pay.
KYC is today realty. Let`s fight not against KYC but correct the way of using it.

That's very brilliant of you, the fighting or condemning of KYC is not the best and will never take us anywhere but to frown against the use where casinos seem partial about it. Think about it, casinos may allow you to wager a large amount of money and continue to play, and when you lose your money, they will never ask you for the KYC because you are losing to their pocket. But when you are a good player that is winning regularly, then you are a threat and they may start by using the KYC as a weapon. The same thing goes for the player who is withdrawing a sizable amount of money, if it were to be a small amount that such a gambler is requesting, they might look away, but once it is big enough, it becomes an issue.

This looks like using the KYC as a manipulator in my view, so speaking for being fair about it is the right call. I hope it will get to the stage where the world's regulator will mandate the KYC before any transaction can take place on any account, only by that will the fairness we are talking about be unlocked. But these days where the KYC completion is flexible, the casinos can do as they like. This is the more reason why we should be careful as well and stop trusting too much, we should not relax at all, especially when the money we have with the casino is large enough. Completing the KYC at our earliest convenient time is a good way to go in this regard instead of allowing casinos to manipulate our timing and plans for our money.

The problem is that casinos understand it and don`t want to change the KYC rules. In their ToS we can find that they can KYC you anytime they want. And they don`t KYC gambler during the registration they explain like giving an opportunity to gambler not to waste time and begin to gamble as fast as possible. But i don`t need it. So give me a chance to decide myself what i want.

[Dunamisx]

It's too risky to create a new account in the same casino when your main account is banned.

The gambling site that has a good security network will always engaged on a look out for related offenses from gamblers and execute on them ban evasion from their platform, if you have been banned from a particular gambling site, then do yourself good to leave for good and find another one you can suitably use to your taste, if you provide them with fake information or same or identical from the banned account, they will detect and also restrict you on certain terms.

[Hamphser]

The main problem with KYC is that it is mostly when you withdraw prize. Even in reputed casinos you lose your time for it. It would be more fair to have an opportunity to KYC yourself when you want or during the registration, but casinos don`t want to do so. They can freeze your prize for some time, or someone can fail KYC and they willn`t pay.
KYC is today realty. Let`s fight not against KYC but correct the way of using it.

That's very brilliant of you, the fighting or condemning of KYC is not the best and will never take us anywhere but to frown against the use where casinos seem partial about it. Think about it, casinos may allow you to wager a large amount of money and continue to play, and when you lose your money, they will never ask you for the KYC because you are losing to their pocket. But when you are a good player that is winning regularly, then you are a threat and they may start by using the KYC as a weapon. The same thing goes for the player who is withdrawing a sizable amount of money, if it were to be a small amount that such a gambler is requesting, they might look away, but once it is big enough, it becomes an issue.

This looks like using the KYC as a manipulator in my view, so speaking for being fair about it is the right call. I hope it will get to the stage where the world's regulator will mandate the KYC before any transaction can take place on any account, only by that will the fairness we are talking about be unlocked. But these days where the KYC completion is flexible, the casinos can do as they like. This is the more reason why we should be careful as well and stop trusting too much, we should not relax at all, especially when the money we have with the casino is large enough. Completing the KYC at our earliest convenient time is a good way to go in this regard instead of allowing casinos to manipulate our timing and plans for our money.

The problem is that casinos understand it and don`t want to change the KYC rules. In their ToS we can find that they can KYC you anytime they want. And they don`t KYC gambler during the registration they explain like giving an opportunity to gambler not to waste time and begin to gamble as fast as possible. But i don`t need it. So give me a chance to decide myself what i want.

When casinos would really be tending to input that KYC before you can play then if this one would really be running up on crypto market then it would really be something that will highly frowned upon.

Just like on what im experiencing with Stake. Wayback on which you could really be able to play without any hiccups or any problems since you could really be able to withdraw without any issues or problems
but now you would really be needing up for your account to be KYC verified on which it do really sucks because we are here on crypto space. This is the main reason on why i have left up this platform
and sticking into those sites which they dont ask out some KYc but if you do see their TOS then it would really be always sitting silently on there.

[Wind_FURY]

It's too risky to create a new account in the same casino when your main account is banned.

The gambling site that has a good security network will always engaged on a look out for related offenses from gamblers and execute on them ban evasion from their platform, if you have been banned from a particular gambling site, then do yourself good to leave for good and find another one you can suitably use to your taste, if you provide them with fake information or same or identical from the banned account, they will detect and also restrict you on certain terms.

Plus that's probably what most of the scam accusation complaints was caused by those "newbie" accounts in BitcoinTalk actually. Or they probably lost more than they could afford, and have started becoming emotional. Losing more than you could afford, and therefore blaming "something" is understandable. It's probably the same with trading. I believe some of the people who lost more than they could afford to lose in cryptocurrencies last cycle blame Matt Damon.

[Z_MBFM]

It's too risky to create a new account in the same casino when your main account is banned.

The gambling site that has a good security network will always engaged on a look out for related offenses from gamblers and execute on them ban evasion from their platform, if you have been banned from a particular gambling site, then do yourself good to leave for good and find another one you can suitably use to your taste, if you provide them with fake information or same or identical from the banned account, they will detect and also restrict you on certain terms.

Plus that's probably what most of the scam accusation complaints was caused by those "newbie" accounts in BitcoinTalk actually. Or they probably lost more than they could afford, and have started becoming emotional. Losing more than you could afford, and therefore blaming "something" is understandable. It's probably the same with trading. I believe some of the people who lost more than they could afford to lose in cryptocurrencies last cycle blame Matt Damon.

Yes this is the main problem. People who lose small amounts of money gambling which they cannot afford to accept are always emotional and blame the casino sites and share their stories in various places. They never want to admit that they are at fault here because they greedily deposit more money with the intention of winning more money and place bigger bets that they cannot afford to lose. Later, when they lose them, they regret it and become emotional and behave abnormally.  Everyone has to accept that gambling is very risky and cannot be panicked.  Here one should gamble only for enjoyment using a small amount at all times.  Then no one will be emotional in this case

[Dunamisx]

It's too risky to create a new account in the same casino when your main account is banned.

The gambling site that has a good security network will always engaged on a look out for related offenses from gamblers and execute on them ban evasion from their platform, if you have been banned from a particular gambling site, then do yourself good to leave for good and find another one you can suitably use to your taste, if you provide them with fake information or same or identical from the banned account, they will detect and also restrict you on certain terms.

Plus that's probably what most of the scam accusation complaints was caused by those "newbie" accounts in BitcoinTalk actually. Or they probably lost more than they could afford, and have started becoming emotional. Losing more than you could afford, and therefore blaming "something" is understandable. It's probably the same with trading. I believe some of the people who lost more than they could afford to lose in cryptocurrencies last cycle blame Matt Damon.

Yes this is the main problem. People who lose small amounts of money gambling which they cannot afford to accept are always emotional and blame the casino sites and share their stories in various places. They never want to admit that they are at fault here because they greedily deposit more money with the intention of winning more money and place bigger bets that they cannot afford to lose. Later, when they lose them, they regret it and become emotional and behave abnormally.  Everyone has to accept that gambling is very risky and cannot be panicked.  Here one should gamble only for enjoyment using a small amount at all times.  Then no one will be emotional in this case

Any loss realized at the cause of gambling will all be accounted on us because the casino are not going to be responsible for any reason, that is why is it also important that we take control measures carefully before gambling and we should do this as according to all we could afford to bear, just as we have been told already that gambling is a win or loose game of an entertainment.

[mak013]

The problem is that casinos understand it and don`t want to change the KYC rules. In their ToS we can find that they can KYC you anytime they want. And they don`t KYC gambler during the registration they explain like giving an opportunity to gambler not to waste time and begin to gamble as fast as possible. But i don`t need it. So give me a chance to decide myself what i want.

When casinos would really be tending to input that KYC before you can play then if this one would really be running up on crypto market then it would really be something that will highly frowned upon.

Just like on what im experiencing with Stake. Wayback on which you could really be able to play without any hiccups or any problems since you could really be able to withdraw without any issues or problems
but now you would really be needing up for your account to be KYC verified on which it do really sucks because we are here on crypto space. This is the main reason on why i have left up this platform
and sticking into those sites which they dont ask out some KYc but if you do see their TOS then it would really be always sitting silently on there.

You can choose casino with KYC or without it. It is only your decision. I don`t care about KYC and today i think that it becomes new standard of the casino. But we can find casinos without KYC. So, as i said, everyone can choose himself. But KYC during withdrawal is unfair for gamblers. If you want KYC - KYC during the registration. I can prepare all documents to KYC faster. When i win prize and want to get my money i don`t think about KYC or docs i need to KYC.

[adultcrypto]

The gambling site that has a good security network will always engaged on a look out for related offenses from gamblers and execute on them ban evasion from their platform

If you are referring to using IP address, a gambler can easily bypass that. Maybe there are other ways they can link both accounts because my knowledge is highly limited in that area. To avoid being in such situation, it is just best the gambler explore other options.

It's too risky to create a new account in the same casino when your main account is banned.

if you have been banned from a particular gambling site, then do yourself good to leave for good and find another one you can suitably use to your taste, if you provide them with fake information or same or identical from the banned account, they will detect and also restrict you on certain terms.

I know that people do this in casinos that do not require KYC but it is very risky because issues may arise that will require unplanned KYC with selfie or video with identity document. Any gambler that commits offense that lead to a ban does not need to open a new account in the same casino unless the money is not important for him. It is very depressing to win and start facing challenges because it is during winning that the casino will strike if they notice the account belong to a person whose previous account was banned.

[promise444c5]

The problem is that casinos understand it and don`t want to change the KYC rules. In their ToS we can find that they can KYC you anytime they want. And they don`t KYC gambler during the registration they explain like giving an opportunity to gambler not to waste time and begin to gamble as fast as possible. But i don`t need it. So give me a chance to decide myself what i want.

When casinos would really be tending to input that KYC before you can play then if this one would really be running up on crypto market then it would really be something that will highly frowned upon.

Just like on what im experiencing with Stake. Wayback on which you could really be able to play without any hiccups or any problems since you could really be able to withdraw without any issues or problems
but now you would really be needing up for your account to be KYC verified on which it do really sucks because we are here on crypto space. This is the main reason on why i have left up this platform
and sticking into those sites which they dont ask out some KYc but if you do see their TOS then it would really be always sitting silently on there.

You can choose casino with KYC or without it. It is only your decision. I don`t care about KYC and today i think that it becomes new standard of the casino. But we can find casinos without KYC. So, as i said, everyone can choose himself. But KYC during withdrawal is unfair for gamblers. If you want KYC - KYC during the registration. I can prepare all documents to KYC faster. When i win prize and want to get my money i don`t think about KYC or docs i need to KYC.

That's  just it  Why the heck would you require KYC when a user Is about to withdraw his/her funds/profit it doesn't  look fair to me ... it's good to let users know what they are dealing either  a KYC-required or KYC-free right from onset before starting any form of gambling on that particular  casino.
Each gamblers with their taste, some gambler or maybe I should put it this way most gamblers doesn't worry about providing a kyc to casinos only few care about it maybe for privacy reason  so there's nothing to make hidden by casinos  until withdrawal

[blockman]

The gambling site that has a good security network will always engaged on a look out for related offenses from gamblers and execute on them ban evasion from their platform

If you are referring to using IP address, a gambler can easily bypass that.

It's hard to that from their end but it's not impossible at all.

Maybe there are other ways they can link both accounts because my knowledge is highly limited in that area. To avoid being in such situation, it is just best the gambler explore other options.

They own the platform and for sure that they have measures to do that. But proving it is going to be another thing, that is why we see a lot of complaints that are being told that they've got a connection to some other accounts which is not allowed by most casinos to have multiple accounts.

[suzanne5223]

The problem is that casinos understand it and don`t want to change the KYC rules. In their ToS we can find that they can KYC you anytime they want. And they don`t KYC gambler during the registration they explain like giving an opportunity to gambler not to waste time and begin to gamble as fast as possible. But i don`t need it. So give me a chance to decide myself what i want.

When casinos would really be tending to input that KYC before you can play then if this one would really be running up on crypto market then it would really be something that will highly frowned upon.

Just like on what im experiencing with Stake. Wayback on which you could really be able to play without any hiccups or any problems since you could really be able to withdraw without any issues or problems
but now you would really be needing up for your account to be KYC verified on which it do really sucks because we are here on crypto space. This is the main reason on why i have left up this platform
and sticking into those sites which they dont ask out some KYc but if you do see their TOS then it would really be always sitting silently on there.

You can choose casino with KYC or without it. It is only your decision. I don`t care about KYC and today i think that it becomes new standard of the casino. But we can find casinos without KYC. So, as i said, everyone can choose himself. But KYC during withdrawal is unfair for gamblers. If you want KYC - KYC during the registration. I can prepare all documents to KYC faster. When i win prize and want to get my money i don`t think about KYC or docs i need to KYC.

That's  just it  Why the heck would you require KYC when a user Is about to withdraw his/her funds/profit it doesn't  look fair to me ... it's good to let users know what they are dealing either  a KYC-required or KYC-free right from onset before starting any form of gambling on that particular  casino.
Each gamblers with their taste, some gambler or maybe I should put it this way most gamblers doesn't worry about providing a kyc to casinos only few care about it maybe for privacy reason  so there's nothing to make hidden by casinos  until withdrawal

The idea of a casino not requesting KYC from their user when registering and making a deposit but later requesting KYC when withdrawal is involved is shady and dishonest but let us be sincere with ourselves.
If a casino does not claim to be total KYC free and doesn't request KYC when registering and depositing we should technically expect a surprise party when withdrawal is involved.
Until we understand this the less we become a victim of the casino that operates in this way.

[EarnOnVictor]

Before starting gambling and making a deposit, a gambler should ask and answer himself - what is your goal when you gamble with crypto. With this I mean, you go casino for what reason? To gamble or to «stay anonymous and gamble with crypto» ? What is the real reason why so many people are afraid to pass KYC? Pass KYC before starting playing and relax. Or dont gamble with crypto at all. I see KYC in casinos as some kind of formality. They dont usually ask for much information, and I dont know how can someone fail with KYC (unless that person havent read ToS and gamble from forbidden country).

That thing with rejecting to pass KYC sometimes makes me funny. People give personal information to get a discount card to save few cents and never get back to that shop, and reject to pass KYC when they are about to spend hundred dollars.

Gambling sites restrict bet limits, odd limits/stake limits for various reasons, and also same happened for banned users. They can't play or can't play with good odds/stakes. For this reason, the user may need to create another account which might not be allowed and when the site asks to pass KYC the user fails to do that.

It's too risky to create a new account in the same casino when your main account is banned. It's much better to look for another casino and do the KYC first before starting to risk a significant amount of money. That way, you have already secured your account with KYC, and they won't ask for it anymore in the future. The problem with some casinos is they allow us to gamble for a while, but later they'll trigger that KYC requirement, and that's where the real trouble on us starts. Sometimes, even if we don't cheat, their system will tag us as cheaters and there's no way we can proved it, unless we'll take it somewhere ilke there's a 3rd party to judge the situation, maybe to the court where gamblers does not usually do.

You have good advice there, I wonder why some people will allow themselves to be persuaded to open another account with the same casinos. Even if the first account was not banned, a second account should not be considered with the same casino as it might result in banning. Casino frowns so much at this because people have used this style to cheat them in the past, so they ban the account at first knowledge even if you are not cheating them. But it is bad that they will not investigate or warn you. I can only believe that people who are victims of this ignorantly may not know because I should have been a victim of other companies. If it were to be in trading, it would have happened many times.

The reason is that it was later that I often detected that I had two accounts with them. I would have opened an account with a company but forgot and reopened it ignorantly about 5 years later. These are part of the issue.

By the way, it is never an excuse for any casino to block an account simply because their system detects it as fraud. Can't they investigate? It is not new for computer programs to be overbearing and misbehaving, that is where humans come in. Mind you. I believe many casinos are deliberately cheating people this way but lying about their system, which is why we should be very careful in our casino selection. I wish there would be better regulation in the casino industry, it is only then that they can stop all the cheating instead of gamblers looking for external help as you suggested.

[delfastTions]

Before starting gambling and making a deposit, a gambler should ask and answer himself - what is your goal when you gamble with crypto. With this I mean, you go casino for what reason? To gamble or to «stay anonymous and gamble with crypto» ? What is the real reason why so many people are afraid to pass KYC? Pass KYC before starting playing and relax. Or dont gamble with crypto at all. I see KYC in casinos as some kind of formality. They dont usually ask for much information, and I dont know how can someone fail with KYC (unless that person havent read ToS and gamble from forbidden country).

That thing with rejecting to pass KYC sometimes makes me funny. People give personal information to get a discount card to save few cents and never get back to that shop, and reject to pass KYC when they are about to spend hundred dollars.

Gambling sites restrict bet limits, odd limits/stake limits for various reasons, and also same happened for banned users. They can't play or can't play with good odds/stakes. For this reason, the user may need to create another account which might not be allowed and when the site asks to pass KYC the user fails to do that.

It's too risky to create a new account in the same casino when your main account is banned. It's much better to look for another casino and do the KYC first before starting to risk a significant amount of money. That way, you have already secured your account with KYC, and they won't ask for it anymore in the future. The problem with some casinos is they allow us to gamble for a while, but later they'll trigger that KYC requirement, and that's where the real trouble on us starts. Sometimes, even if we don't cheat, their system will tag us as cheaters and there's no way we can proved it, unless we'll take it somewhere ilke there's a 3rd party to judge the situation, maybe to the court where gamblers does not usually do.

You have good advice there, I wonder why some people will allow themselves to be persuaded to open another account with the same casinos. Even if the first account was not banned, a second account should not be considered with the same casino as it might result in banning. Casino frowns so much at this because people have used this style to cheat them in the past, so they ban the account at first knowledge even if you are not cheating them. But it is bad that they will not investigate or warn you. I can only believe that people who are victims of this ignorantly may not know because I should have been a victim of other companies. If it were to be in trading, it would have happened many times.

The reason is that it was later that I often detected that I had two accounts with them. I would have opened an account with a company but forgot and reopened it ignorantly about 5 years later. These are part of the issue.

By the way, it is never an excuse for any casino to block an account simply because their system detects it as fraud. Can't they investigate? It is not new for computer programs to be overbearing and misbehaving, that is where humans come in. Mind you. I believe many casinos are deliberately cheating people this way but lying about their system, which is why we should be very careful in our casino selection. I wish there would be better regulation in the casino industry, it is only then that they can stop all the cheating instead of gamblers looking for external help as you suggested.

I suspect that for many years to come the gambling industry will not have clear Legislative regulation regarding the use of cryptocurrencies, including mandatory or, conversely, optional identification verification under the KYC procedure.  This is primarily due to the uncertain status of the cryptocurrencies themselves, which cannot yet be determined by legislators in all countries of the world.  But, of cpourse, with the exception of El Salvador, which three years ago legalized Bitcoin completely and finally.  The thing is that if a certain casino starts requiring KYC from every client, then it will also definitely lose some clients who remain anonymous.  And naturally, new casinos will be born that will not require KYC simply because there are millions of anonymous players.  And most of them will never undergo KYC.  Moreover, the reasons can be very diverse, from national policy to personal reasons for hiding a person’s passion for gambling. 
So in the foreseeable future, I do not see a clear solution to all these problems with strict player identification in crypto casinos.

[mak013]

You can choose casino with KYC or without it. It is only your decision. I don`t care about KYC and today i think that it becomes new standard of the casino. But we can find casinos without KYC. So, as i said, everyone can choose himself. But KYC during withdrawal is unfair for gamblers. If you want KYC - KYC during the registration. I can prepare all documents to KYC faster. When i win prize and want to get my money i don`t think about KYC or docs i need to KYC.

That's  just it  Why the heck would you require KYC when a user Is about to withdraw his/her funds/profit it doesn't  look fair to me ... it's good to let users know what they are dealing either  a KYC-required or KYC-free right from onset before starting any form of gambling on that particular  casino.
Each gamblers with their taste, some gambler or maybe I should put it this way most gamblers doesn't worry about providing a kyc to casinos only few care about it maybe for privacy reason  so there's nothing to make hidden by casinos  until withdrawal

No. They tell you that they use KYC. But the same time they tell you that they don`t KYC you during the registration to allow you don`t waste time. And it is the main cheat. They don`t ask you questions when you bring them money and lose it, but they you about it when they lose. And, probably try to steal the prize. Not all of them, but all of them steal your time when you want to get your money.

[promise444c5]

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The idea of a casino not requesting KYC from their user when registering and making a deposit but later requesting KYC when withdrawal is involved is shady and dishonest but let us be sincere with ourselves.
If a casino does not claim to be total KYC free and doesn't request KYC when registering and depositing we should technically expect a surprise party when withdrawal is involved.
Until we understand this the less we become a victim of the casino that operates in this way.

It's fine to let us know you're kyc preferred casino before a deposit f there's nothing wrong with , there's a clear mind that I have everything settled and will be cautious of how everything will be done... it normal for them to keep track of how funds are being circulated in casinos maybe to prevent money laundering or whatever they want maybe stated by government  and they can only know the identity through KYCs. Asking for a kyc during withdrawal  just feels like a trap to me

[Hamphser]

The problem is that casinos understand it and don`t want to change the KYC rules. In their ToS we can find that they can KYC you anytime they want. And they don`t KYC gambler during the registration they explain like giving an opportunity to gambler not to waste time and begin to gamble as fast as possible. But i don`t need it. So give me a chance to decide myself what i want.

When casinos would really be tending to input that KYC before you can play then if this one would really be running up on crypto market then it would really be something that will highly frowned upon.

Just like on what im experiencing with Stake. Wayback on which you could really be able to play without any hiccups or any problems since you could really be able to withdraw without any issues or problems
but now you would really be needing up for your account to be KYC verified on which it do really sucks because we are here on crypto space. This is the main reason on why i have left up this platform
and sticking into those sites which they dont ask out some KYc but if you do see their TOS then it would really be always sitting silently on there.

You can choose casino with KYC or without it. It is only your decision. I don`t care about KYC and today i think that it becomes new standard of the casino. But we can find casinos without KYC. So, as i said, everyone can choose himself. But KYC during withdrawal is unfair for gamblers. If you want KYC - KYC during the registration. I can prepare all documents to KYC faster. When i win prize and want to get my money i don`t think about KYC or docs i need to KYC.

That's  just it  Why the heck would you require KYC when a user Is about to withdraw his/her funds/profit it doesn't  look fair to me ... it's good to let users know what they are dealing either  a KYC-required or KYC-free right from onset before starting any form of gambling on that particular  casino.
Each gamblers with their taste, some gambler or maybe I should put it this way most gamblers doesn't worry about providing a kyc to casinos only few care about it maybe for privacy reason  so there's nothing to make hidden by casinos  until withdrawal

The moment that they would be asking KYC on the moment that you do withdraw could be only on two possible reasons:

1. Withdrawal amount threshold
2. Violation of terms and conditions

If #1 is something that you do believe that not possible because you are withdrawing a small amount then it would be just that normal that you would be
thinking that you have might violated up something and this is why you do really end up on having that kind of hold.
Actually you wont really be having any worries if you are dealing up with a legit platform or site, but if you are dealing up with something new or havent that been that too popular
then expect or chances that you might be experiencing some potential scam is happening, this is why it would really be always recommended that we should really be sticking into those platforms
on which we know that its been trusted up for quite some time.