[INFO] Steel / iron collectibles imported to the EU

[minerjones]

So it seems that as of September 2023, the importation of steel/iron products of Russian origin into the EU is prohibited

Any item made of those materials now needs an MTC (Mill Test Certificate) from the manufacturer/maker

If this is not presented, the item(s) will be prohibited from being imported

Being that, there are 2 makers that I know of that use steel in their products:

1) Ballet wallet cards

2) Squirrelbits coins/slabs/artworks


Is this something they would have?

Any ideas how to proceed?


PS: If anyone is in need of the new HS codes, can use this handy lookup: https://www.goglobalpost.com/hs-code-lookup-tool/

[henkcryptotank]

Customs workers that i know of, cant separate a doorhandle from a toiletknob.
E.a. are complete knobheads!

Not contributing to this thread but my shrink told me to vent more...

Greets Tank

[bitbollo]

thanks for share.
I haven't get still on my hand but I have received a steel item from Squirellbits few weeks ago.
Italy customs has not requested nothing...  
Well, well... maybe here they are not "really focused" on that... the package was not inspected and so on... just asked customs fees...

BTW I have verified and it seems it's allowed importation even without MTC test: (see below - translated with google translated...)

However, it must be clear that, in the absence of this document, the operation can still be carried out provided, the authorities specify, the origin of the production factors has been attested with further and combined means of proof or a combination such as, for example, invoices , delivery notes, supplier's declarations, including multi-shipment supplier's declarations (long-term supplier's declarations), business correspondence, production descriptions, quality certificates and clauses in purchase orders or executed contracts, to provided that they include information on the origin of the production factors used.

full reference (Italian Language) : https://www.studiosantacroce.eu/Contenuti/Articoli/Articolo/2078/misure-e-sanzioni-sullacciaio-russia-avviso-d

[minerjones]

The last past of "provided that they include information on the origin of the production factors used" still means that it has to show where the steel came from... 

[bitbollo]

The last past of "provided that they include information on the origin of the production factors used" still means that it has to show where the steel came from...  

it say that these combination of information:

" invoices , delivery notes, supplier's declarations, including multi-shipment supplier's declarations (long-term supplier's declarations), business correspondence, production descriptions, quality certificates and clauses in purchase orders or executed contracts "

must have the option to clarify where the steel come from. it should be clear stated/declared.

My 2 satoshi: I don't think that customs (at least here in Italy) would spend their time to understand if a ballet wallet or anything similar (few grams) has been done from Russian steel. They will not made an analysis of material. Of course if someone is going to import tons of steels for construction.... well in that case is pretty different.... end of my 2 satoshi.

[mortare]

I got this mail from ups today regarding 2 Squirrelbits coins:

From September 30, 2023, it will be prohibited to import iron and steel products into the European Union from third countries originating in Russia.
As a result, customs are conducting increasing controls on the origin of iron and steel products.
To prove that the origin of the goods is not Russia, a Mill Test Certificate (MTC) must be presented.
Could we receive this document from the sender? Please note that without the presence of an MTC, the relevant goods cannot be inserted.

I also receive this document i need to fill in: Supplier_declaration_of_compliance_iron_and_steel_of_RU_origin_005

Supplier declaration of compliance in reference to Council Regulation (EU) No. 833/2014
regarding steel and iron of Russian origin

Date (DD/MM/YYYY):

I, [name representative] ……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………
duly authorised to sign this document on behalf of
[Name of supplier]: ……………………………………………………………………………….………………………………………………….

hereby certifies that no iron or steel of Russian origin was used in the production of goods supplied in this shipment and therefore assures compliance with regards to Article 3g of Council Regulation (EU)
No. 883/2014, in reference to Annex XVII.
Furthermore, I declare that evidence substantiating the above can be made available to customs authorities upon request.

HS codes of the concerned goods [7206-7326]: …..………………………………………………….……………………………….

Origin of the goods: …….…………………………………………………………………….…………………………………………………….

Shipment ID(s)/tracking number(s): ………………………………………………………………….…………………………………….

Signature and company stamp: ….……………………………………………………………………………………………………………

This is the first time that i need to provide this information.

[tweetious]

My 2 satoshi: I don't think that customs (at least here in Italy) would spend their time to understand if a ballet wallet or anything similar (few grams) has been done from Russian steel. They will not made an analysis of material. Of course if someone is going to import tons of steels for construction.... well in that case is pretty different.... end of my 2 satoshi.

That's exactly the point here. Because they do not want to spend even 1 second more than is needed & because they do not want to further investigate, that's why they are asking for official documentation (ie proof that someone else has done the investigation on their behalf).

[2stout]

I got this mail from ups today regarding 2 Squirrelbits coins:

From September 30, 2023, it will be prohibited to import iron and steel products into the European Union from third countries originating in Russia.
As a result, customs are conducting increasing controls on the origin of iron and steel products.
To prove that the origin of the goods is not Russia, a Mill Test Certificate (MTC) must be presented.
Could we receive this document from the sender? Please note that without the presence of an MTC, the relevant goods cannot be inserted.

I also receive this document i need to fill in: Supplier_declaration_of_compliance_iron_and_steel_of_RU_origin_005

Supplier declaration of compliance in reference to Council Regulation (EU) No. 833/2014
regarding steel and iron of Russian origin

Date (DD/MM/YYYY):

I, [name representative] ……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………
duly authorised to sign this document on behalf of
[Name of supplier]: ……………………………………………………………………………….………………………………………………….

hereby certifies that no iron or steel of Russian origin was used in the production of goods supplied in this shipment and therefore assures compliance with regards to Article 3g of Council Regulation (EU)
No. 883/2014, in reference to Annex XVII.
Furthermore, I declare that evidence substantiating the above can be made available to customs authorities upon request.

HS codes of the concerned goods [7206-7326]: …..………………………………………………….……………………………….

Origin of the goods: …….…………………………………………………………………….…………………………………………………….

Shipment ID(s)/tracking number(s): ………………………………………………………………….…………………………………….

Signature and company stamp: ….……………………………………………………………………………………………………………

This is the first time that i need to provide this information.

Now scraps of metal are considered controlled goods under EU regulation? Out of fear of providing funds to big bad bear russia, LMAO.

Must I fill out a form for every single iron nail coming into EU?

Must I now fill out and have deceleration of intent for my belt buckle because it might be made of Moscow sludge metal?

Ridiculous, another piece of filth leaving parliament.

Having some underpaid postal slave checking pieces of metal for declarations of origin is going to damage shipping times into EU as well as exponentially raise cost and head-ache.

I doubt the fear you portray in your last sentence.  My bet is you would get a pass with the paperwork and the flags would be missing declaration(s), weight that exceeds predetermined thresholds, and/or counties that import russian steel.

[2stout]

I got this mail from ups today regarding 2 Squirrelbits coins:

From September 30, 2023, it will be prohibited to import iron and steel products into the European Union from third countries originating in Russia.
As a result, customs are conducting increasing controls on the origin of iron and steel products.
To prove that the origin of the goods is not Russia, a Mill Test Certificate (MTC) must be presented.
Could we receive this document from the sender? Please note that without the presence of an MTC, the relevant goods cannot be inserted.

I also receive this document i need to fill in: Supplier_declaration_of_compliance_iron_and_steel_of_RU_origin_005

Supplier declaration of compliance in reference to Council Regulation (EU) No. 833/2014
regarding steel and iron of Russian origin

Date (DD/MM/YYYY):

I, [name representative] ……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………
duly authorised to sign this document on behalf of
[Name of supplier]: ……………………………………………………………………………….………………………………………………….

hereby certifies that no iron or steel of Russian origin was used in the production of goods supplied in this shipment and therefore assures compliance with regards to Article 3g of Council Regulation (EU)
No. 883/2014, in reference to Annex XVII.
Furthermore, I declare that evidence substantiating the above can be made available to customs authorities upon request.

HS codes of the concerned goods [7206-7326]: …..………………………………………………….……………………………….

Origin of the goods: …….…………………………………………………………………….…………………………………………………….

Shipment ID(s)/tracking number(s): ………………………………………………………………….…………………………………….

Signature and company stamp: ….……………………………………………………………………………………………………………

This is the first time that i need to provide this information.

Now scraps of metal are considered controlled goods under EU regulation? Out of fear of providing funds to big bad bear russia, LMAO.

Must I fill out a form for every single iron nail coming into EU?

Must I now fill out and have deceleration of intent for my belt buckle because it might be made of Moscow sludge metal?

Ridiculous, another piece of filth leaving parliament.

Having some underpaid postal slave checking pieces of metal for declarations of origin is going to damage shipping times into EU as well as exponentially raise cost and head-ache.

I doubt the fear you portray in your last sentence.  My bet is you would get a pass with the paperwork and the flags would be missing declaration(s), weight that exceeds predetermined thresholds, and/or counties that import russian steel.

The most prestigious article I have been able to locate on the matter is an article posted to linked-in dated 10/9/23 from a copper customs complience company.

Apparently this embargo has been in place since 10/2/2022. So this has been a thing for a while now. It is called Council Regulation (EU) 2022/1904.

I am very surprised this is not bigger news and more people are not aware of this.

Imagine all the car parts, building materials, metal sheet, nuts, bolts, screws everything... All needing a MTC to be able to slip into the EU. This is quite the operation.

Article: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/eu-mill-test-certificates-mtc-needed-prove-iron

Basically in line with what I said about flags but more specific- "Finally, the most critical component of the MTC is that it ensures COMPLIANCE when importing goods by indicating the country of origin."  This hasn't become bigger news as what you alluded to has yet to happen in a significant way since implementation 1 and 1/3 years ago- damaged shipping times into EU, exponentially raised cost, and head-ache.  If these did happen on a significant level we would have heard about it some time ago but still good to keep an eye on.

[bitbollo]

@mortare you are basically going to sign a sort of self-declaration on the origin of steel.
a sort of release of "responsibility" for importer UPS.
Who and why should "deny" this information you are providing?
in my case custom has asked nothing to me


@tweetious I think this depends from your country / custom office you're dealing. as you see with mortare they have requested just a declaration. that's not the first time that I see this from UPS ... I have compiled the same when I have bought stamp with gold from UAE... some years ago.
but it was like "Ok I am going to get this item... that's all".