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I cannot put a wager against my dearest star player, club and team.
I can wager against my dearest star player, club and team.

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February 04, 2024, 09:16:51 PM
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When I saw a survey indicating that the majority of voters chose the player that only a handful of experts expect to win over the player that has proven to be more dominant, it blew my mind.

I am talking about the boxing match between former champion and big star Anthony Joshua and mma star Francis Nganou. However, I remember not long ago I refused to place a wager on Real Madrid because I desired Girona to win La Liga. In addition, wagering against the Los Angeles Lakers when matched with the best NBA teams is difficult for me.

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

Good question. Here we are talking about what outweighs the love for the team or the player or the money. Regarding the fight between Joshua and Ngannou, I can say that Joshua has more chances and the bookmakers give a big odds on Ngannou for a reason. I'll explain why. In Ngannou’s first fight according to boxing rules, Fury had problems because it is very difficult to prepare for an opponent who has not had a single fight according to boxing rules and is not known how Ngannou boxes. His fighting style is now clear and Joshua will be able to prepare for it. I think Joshua has a better chance in this fight
To answer your question, no matter how much I like Francis, I wouldn’t bet on him, despite the high odds.

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February 04, 2024, 09:20:31 PM
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Many people question this, I think it's quite simple and there may be two choices that gamblers can take if their favorite team is faced with an opponent that is stronger overall and proven by its track record. If I were you or I mean if I were in a situation like that then obviously I would prefer to bet on a team that is indeed much stronger overall even though on the other hand it is not my favorite team, but it doesn't matter because it's like you said that we risk our money and the money is the result of our hard work, therefore I think it is the right choice to take the option that is really more likely and has a greater chance in terms of multiplying, This is where we have to be really wise in making decisions, it is not a problem to occasionally rule out or become a traitor to your favorite team by choosing the opposing team to bet on because what we see here is the opportunity to win for our own interests, but I will not be too pushy for anyone to follow this way because everyone has their own choices.

The gambler who can track the record can make the big money in the gambling site,because making money in the gambling site was not the easiest one.The gambler should suppose to bet on the strongest team to make the money by betting.The gambler always start to betting by the mind of making money from the gambling site.But the set of gamblers will support their own team and star irrespective of their winning.

Because their opinion towards their own team was more compared to the opponent team in the gambling site.So they prepared to betting on the favour of their star,this was the common one among the gamblers in the gambling site.Some gamblers will betting both on their favourite and opponent team based on the game day to make money.

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February 05, 2024, 12:44:21 PM
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Many people question this, I think it's quite simple and there may be two choices that gamblers can take if their favorite team is faced with an opponent that is stronger overall and proven by its track record. If I were you or I mean if I were in a situation like that then obviously I would prefer to bet on a team that is indeed much stronger overall even though on the other hand it is not my favorite team, but it doesn't matter because it's like you said that we risk our money and the money is the result of our hard work, therefore I think it is the right choice to take the option that is really more likely and has a greater chance in terms of multiplying, This is where we have to be really wise in making decisions, it is not a problem to occasionally rule out or become a traitor to your favorite team by choosing the opposing team to bet on because what we see here is the opportunity to win for our own interests, but I will not be too pushy for anyone to follow this way because everyone has their own choices.

The gambler who can track the record can make the big money in the gambling site,because making money in the gambling site was not the easiest one.The gambler should suppose to bet on the strongest team to make the money by betting.The gambler always start to betting by the mind of making money from the gambling site.But the set of gamblers will support their own team and star irrespective of their winning.

Because their opinion towards their own team was more compared to the opponent team in the gambling site.So they prepared to betting on the favour of their star,this was the common one among the gamblers in the gambling site.Some gamblers will betting both on their favourite and opponent team based on the game day to make money.

On the other hand I can't be sure that they can actually produce wins in every bet, but what I mean is that when you bet on the stronger team overall based on your experience and understanding of the world of sports then it will be more "possible" for you to end the session with a win, because on the other hand after all this is gambling where the possibility of risk cannot always be avoided in every betting session we do, but in this way then you will be closer to the possibility of winning.

But I think this method will not be used by those who are really true fans, even though their favorite team is weaker on the other hand I am sure that most likely they will still choose their team without seeing any benefits, and if the scenario is like this then I think it's better for you to just support them, or that means supporting your favorite team without involving any bets, because with this then most likely you will not lose money if your favorite team is faced with a much stronger team.

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February 05, 2024, 01:31:47 PM
 #104

Many people question this, I think it's quite simple and there may be two choices that gamblers can take if their favorite team is faced with an opponent that is stronger overall and proven by its track record. If I were you or I mean if I were in a situation like that then obviously I would prefer to bet on a team that is indeed much stronger overall even though on the other hand it is not my favorite team, but it doesn't matter because it's like you said that we risk our money and the money is the result of our hard work, therefore I think it is the right choice to take the option that is really more likely and has a greater chance in terms of multiplying, This is where we have to be really wise in making decisions, it is not a problem to occasionally rule out or become a traitor to your favorite team by choosing the opposing team to bet on because what we see here is the opportunity to win for our own interests, but I will not be too pushy for anyone to follow this way because everyone has their own choices.


Making money shouldn`t come in the way of passion. For sports bettors, there are so many games you can bet on and save yourself from emotional distress because when you bet against your team, it doesn`t make your team lose so why put yourself in a position where you will not be happy when your team is winning? Yesterday, Arsenal played against Liverpool and my friend who is an Arsenal fan gave Liverpool the win because Gabriel Jesus will not play since he was injured, Liverpool is on a good run and topping the league so they will do every to maintain the gap. I am also an Arsenal fan but I avoided placing a bet on the match because I want to sip my drink and enjoy the game.

I can say that yesterday wasn`t his best day. Arsenal scored he was angry even as an Arsenal fan. I was jubilating which is usually what I do whenever Arsenal scores but then he was frowning when he was supposed to be happy. When Liverpool scored he touched me and said," I told you Arsenal can`t win the game", I said let's watch. The game ended 3-1 in favour of Arsenal and he was mad because he lost his bet.

So, why would a true fan want to put himself in such a situation where good becomes bad and bad becomes good? Even though most gambler is concerned about the money, you should know when not to trick your emotions. It is difficult for a gambler who gambles for fun to stake against his team. Most of them, either bet on their team or prefer not betting instead of betting against their team. This should be emulated except you are not a football fan.

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February 05, 2024, 01:45:05 PM
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Many people question this, I think it's quite simple and there may be two choices that gamblers can take if their favorite team is faced with an opponent that is stronger overall and proven by its track record. If I were you or I mean if I were in a situation like that then obviously I would prefer to bet on a team that is indeed much stronger overall even though on the other hand it is not my favorite team, but it doesn't matter because it's like you said that we risk our money and the money is the result of our hard work, therefore I think it is the right choice to take the option that is really more likely and has a greater chance in terms of multiplying, This is where we have to be really wise in making decisions, it is not a problem to occasionally rule out or become a traitor to your favorite team by choosing the opposing team to bet on because what we see here is the opportunity to win for our own interests, but I will not be too pushy for anyone to follow this way because everyone has their own choices.

The gambler who can track the record can make the big money in the gambling site,because making money in the gambling site was not the easiest one.The gambler should suppose to bet on the strongest team to make the money by betting.The gambler always start to betting by the mind of making money from the gambling site.But the set of gamblers will support their own team and star irrespective of their winning.

Because their opinion towards their own team was more compared to the opponent team in the gambling site.So they prepared to betting on the favour of their star,this was the common one among the gamblers in the gambling site.Some gamblers will betting both on their favourite and opponent team based on the game day to make money.
Believing on your favorite team is a 'Fan thing' to do no matter how huge odds are or how big the mismatch is, that supports the idea that they are your favorite team, so it is whether they lose or win in their game. However if you will be a gambler then it would make sense betting on the opposite team in my opinion simply because money is being concerned in that aspect and no one will question your admiration to your team in such way, it is more of being practical and logical. I think a gambler could not be both a fan and  bettor because there will be times you will choose the edge of winning over your biases in particular with players or teams. Doing both such as pushing your bet with your team, even if disadvantage is obvious, will more likely just result to a loss. One reason here is still seeing the disadvantage despite of your innate bias with the team you look forward with. If it is just a fair game then you won't view the match in such way, right?

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February 05, 2024, 01:46:02 PM
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When I saw a survey indicating that the majority of voters chose the player that only a handful of experts expect to win over the player that has proven to be more dominant, it blew my mind.

I am talking about the boxing match between former champion and big star Anthony Joshua and mma star Francis Nganou. However, I remember not long ago I refused to place a wager on Real Madrid because I desired Girona to win La Liga. In addition, wagering against the Los Angeles Lakers when matched with the best NBA teams is difficult for me.

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

Good question. Here we are talking about what outweighs the love for the team or the player or the money. Regarding the fight between Joshua and Ngannou, I can say that Joshua has more chances and the bookmakers give a big odds on Ngannou for a reason. I'll explain why. In Ngannou’s first fight according to boxing rules, Fury had problems because it is very difficult to prepare for an opponent who has not had a single fight according to boxing rules and is not known how Ngannou boxes. His fighting style is now clear and Joshua will be able to prepare for it. I think Joshua has a better chance in this fight
To answer your question, no matter how much I like Francis, I wouldn’t bet on him, despite the high odds.
The same for me. I didn't bet for Ngannou on that boxing fight because let's face it, they won't let a real boxer be defeated by a first-time boxer even if it's just an entertainment match. I mean, that would still smear his record and I bet many boxing fans would not forget that and use that many times while commentating.

It's really to bet against a fighter or a team that you are a fan of. Just a while back, I was actually trying to analyze a game for my favorite team and their opponent as an underdog. I am a big fan of the favorite team but I am having doubts if they will cover the spread or not. So, I ended up just betting for their money line, and guess what, they won but if I took that spread it would not be covered. So, it's a good ending for me. I won my bet and I didn't stop supporting my favorite team.
This kind of decision will be more difficult in other sports where they don't offer big spreads or if we pick a money line we will be forced to profit less just to keep out love for the team intact.
Sometimes it's just better to just let the day pass and don't bet. Enjoy the game but don't regret it if you made a wrong decision of not supporting your team in the betting lines.

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February 05, 2024, 06:02:42 PM
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I recently watched a video by a blogger, where he explained his rules of sports betting. It’s funny that the first point in his video was this rule: “Never bet on your favorite team.” And in fact, this rule has a deep meaning. When we bet on our favorite team, we are likely to be biased. We want to believe that our favorite team will win and we can ignore any rational arguments.
      It is much more logical to bet on the opponent of your favorite team to win. In this case, as the previous user correctly noted, we will either win the bet or enjoy the game of our favorites. That is, it turns out that we will win in any case.
Well, if only what we want is to have fun, why not? Multiplying our staked money, is only just a bonus here. There are still occasions that our favourite team are much stronger than their opponents. Of course, we cannot say this if we are not familiar to the both of them.

However, there might still be a small chance that our team will lose, for some reasons. But again, it does not really matter if our aim is not to earn a profit. Those who have a different playstyle, do also have their own favourite teams but they are not sticking on it if they think their opponents has the advantage. So that blogger that you saw, should not worry about them.

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February 05, 2024, 06:56:02 PM
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I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?
I have placed bets against everyone including my favourite. When I do the math and the conclude my team and everyone's favourite has a high probability of losing, well I follow the numbers with emotions, empathy or sympathy.

My bothers will never try this. Betting against their teams or players is not possible. Despite their them losing their bets several times, What they have resorted to doing now is that they do not bet on the game that their favourites or teams will play. They feel it is being disloyal to the person, or team. What can I say, they made their choices and I made mine.

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February 05, 2024, 07:01:05 PM
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Many people question this, I think it's quite simple and there may be two choices that gamblers can take if their favorite team is faced with an opponent that is stronger overall and proven by its track record. If I were you or I mean if I were in a situation like that then obviously I would prefer to bet on a team that is indeed much stronger overall even though on the other hand it is not my favorite team, but it doesn't matter because it's like you said that we risk our money and the money is the result of our hard work, therefore I think it is the right choice to take the option that is really more likely and has a greater chance in terms of multiplying, This is where we have to be really wise in making decisions, it is not a problem to occasionally rule out or become a traitor to your favorite team by choosing the opposing team to bet on because what we see here is the opportunity to win for our own interests, but I will not be too pushy for anyone to follow this way because everyone has their own choices.

The gambler who can track the record can make the big money in the gambling site,because making money in the gambling site was not the easiest one.The gambler should suppose to bet on the strongest team to make the money by betting.The gambler always start to betting by the mind of making money from the gambling site.But the set of gamblers will support their own team and star irrespective of their winning.

Because their opinion towards their own team was more compared to the opponent team in the gambling site.So they prepared to betting on the favour of their star,this was the common one among the gamblers in the gambling site.Some gamblers will betting both on their favourite and opponent team based on the game day to make money.
Believing on your favorite team is a 'Fan thing' to do no matter how huge odds are or how big the mismatch is, that supports the idea that they are your favorite team, so it is whether they lose or win in their game. However if you will be a gambler then it would make sense betting on the opposite team in my opinion simply because money is being concerned in that aspect and no one will question your admiration to your team in such way, it is more of being practical and logical. I think a gambler could not be both a fan and  bettor because there will be times you will choose the edge of winning over your biases in particular with players or teams. Doing both such as pushing your bet with your team, even if disadvantage is obvious, will more likely just result to a loss. One reason here is still seeing the disadvantage despite of your innate bias with the team you look forward with. If it is just a fair game then you won't view the match in such way, right?
Has a point but believe it or not, some gamblers would risk everything for their favorite team or player and nothing's wrong with it as well. We just all have the freedom on how will we view a match up and bet on it. For people who bet on their favorite despite of odd difference or matchup disadvantage, it is not about winning alone but being  fan also. What separates things is the word "favorite" which is in general and having no boundaries on win-loss record or future statistical performance; they will be staying on that team because they are believers of those teams or players.

But if you are a gambler who is into profit over admiration, then that's just okay also. We are the ones to pick our own poison. In the middle of confusion and lack of assurance on which team you would bet then it is fine as well to just watch and avoid betting. Maybe it is the mindset we should be changing when we are gambling and not the idea of picking the right bet. We always have the option to skip and wait for things where we would be comfortable betting our money with.

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February 05, 2024, 07:38:11 PM
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Shouldn't it be easier to analyze your favorite team to bet on than to bet on what you know nothing about. But sometimes it will be biased because emotional factors influence it.
It's different when you don't bet on your favorite team, you won't use emotional factors to choose. Of course it won't be as detailed as choosing your favorite team.

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February 05, 2024, 08:07:46 PM
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I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?
Everyone's intention in gambling is either to have some fun or have some winnings, irrespective of the team they are a fan of or not, or all they care about is being satisfied with their betting games. They don't mind betting against the club they are a fan of, if they notice that the team they support would lose.

As for me, I don't attach my emotions to gambling whenever I am betting on any particular sport. What I am after is my satisfaction as a gambler, not to feel sorry when betting against a team that I am once in support with

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I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

Can you actually know the percentage, even if you create a poll here I don't think it can be accurate because obviously not all gamblers will show interest, everyone gambles and much of us care less about the feelings of others, we most times concentrate on what we want to see in the bet we are playing, be it if we are a fan of a club or a player on a team, everything still work under a team work because a single player can't make the pitch, they all complement each other, so if am gambling, I considers the players, team, and the opponents including the key star player on the team all together.
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Always play it strategically when your favourite team, player, or club is playing against a team that you know is more dominant. What you should do is place your wager on the opponent, but you should morally be supporting your favourite. The advantage of doing so is that even when your team is losing, you will know that you will at least win the bet that you've made on the opponent, and if your team manages to beat the opponent, you won't worry much about the money because at least your team has won the game.

Using this way, you can have a safe bet while also showing moral support towards your favourite team. This is only for those who know they can't stop supporting their favourite but also can't resist making bets. If you can, you shouldn't place a bet on this game and just support your team, that's it.

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February 12, 2024, 01:22:47 PM
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When I saw a survey indicating that the majority of voters chose the player that only a handful of experts expect to win over the player that has proven to be more dominant, it blew my mind.
Many people hesitate to invest in Bitcoin because so-called economic experts like JP Morgan CEO, tell them that Bitcoin is bad and dangerous, so, I don't find it strange that people follow experts when making bet instead of following their own logic.

Always play it strategically when your favourite team, player, or club is playing against a team that you know is more dominant. What you should do is place your wager on the opponent, but you should morally be supporting your favourite. The advantage of doing so is that even when your team is losing, you will know that you will at least win the bet that you've made on the opponent, and if your team manages to beat the opponent, you won't worry much about the money because at least your team has won the game.
Argentina vs France 2022 came up to my mind right now. Many people made a bet on France because it's overall a very good team but 90% of them were supporting to Argentina because they wanted Messi to finally win the World Cup. By the way, it's very hard to bet on opposite team and support your favorite team because either way, you'll experience financial or emotional damage.

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February 14, 2024, 03:39:10 PM
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When I saw a survey indicating that the majority of voters chose the player that only a handful of experts expect to win over the player that has proven to be more dominant, it blew my mind.
Many people hesitate to invest in Bitcoin because so-called economic experts like JP Morgan CEO, tell them that Bitcoin is bad and dangerous, so, I don't find it strange that people follow experts when making bet instead of following their own logic.
I think that's not the main point of the OP but it's about choosing the less favoured teams, and @OP, some of these teams can still be our favourites and we still can end up choosing them which is great even if we lose because at least our loyalty for them is still there. As for Bitcoin, the coin won't be as big as today if what you are saying is true.

It's one of the proofs that experts are not always experts or right about their claims, so we should not be afraid to follow our selves. I won't say if what our heart or instincts are saying because that could be lacking of technical and fundamental analysis but we still can get lucky with our decisions sometimes.

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February 16, 2024, 06:20:01 AM
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It's common to have fan bias in gambling, and I admit, I also mostly bet on my favorite players, club, or teams. But I have noticed and learned that it's very important to recognize or do some data and analysis rather than base on my emotional attachment to the player, clubs, or teams. It's good to make objective decisions to gain more profitable betting outcomes.
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February 16, 2024, 07:06:12 AM
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I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

Can you actually know the percentage, even if you create a poll here I don't think it can be accurate because obviously not all gamblers will show interest, everyone gambles and much of us care less about the feelings of others, we most times concentrate on what we want to see in the bet we are playing, be it if we are a fan of a club or a player on a team, everything still work under a team work because a single player can't make the pitch, they all complement each other, so if am gambling, I considers the players, team, and the opponents including the key star player on the team all together.
It should really be all connected and its true that not only one would really be functioning then it would really be that just that right that you do have those kind of considerations and not really just that looking on one player but its true that having its appearance or having that playing time would really be giving out that boost but since we are talking about a team based kind of sports then everyone would really be having that specific
role on which it would really be that significant that you would really be having those considerations then it would really be your choice on this one.

Its true that we do have our own standpoint when it comes to things on which its true that even setting up a poll wont really be giving out that precise thing about
those certain information and preference on what bettors do really look upon on the time that they would really be tending to make those bets.
So it would really be that depending on viewpoint.

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February 16, 2024, 07:46:53 AM
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I recently watched a video by a blogger, where he explained his rules of sports betting. It’s funny that the first point in his video was this rule: “Never bet on your favorite team.” And in fact, this rule has a deep meaning. When we bet on our favorite team, we are likely to be biased. We want to believe that our favorite team will win and we can ignore any rational arguments.
      It is much more logical to bet on the opponent of your favorite team to win. In this case, as the previous user correctly noted, we will either win the bet or enjoy the game of our favorites. That is, it turns out that we will win in any case.

uhm we could actually place a bet to our favorite teams and that purely depends on what percentage could bet their chances to win against their current opponent. But most importantly we need to read the odds if our favorite team can achieve the kind of bet against that opponent. Nevertheless, we should not be biased in betting with our favorite team, other wise it would incur us a lot of losses, most especially if it happens that our favorite team is not a powerhouse team, good examples are the current Lakers and GSW teams in the NBA. I know a lot of NBA fans who likes either of this teams.

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February 16, 2024, 04:14:05 PM
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Always play it strategically when your favourite team, player, or club is playing against a team that you know is more dominant. What you should do is place your wager on the opponent, but you should morally be supporting your favourite. The advantage of doing so is that even when your team is losing, you will know that you will at least win the bet that you've made on the opponent, and if your team manages to beat the opponent, you won't worry much about the money because at least your team has won the game.

Using this way, you can have a safe bet while also showing moral support towards your favourite team. This is only for those who know they can't stop supporting their favourite but also can't resist making bets. If you can, you shouldn't place a bet on this game and just support your team, that's it.
Not placing a bet on that game will support our favorite team because it is a way to make you feel uncomfortable if you place a bet on the opposing team. You can also not watch the match if you are uncomfortable seeing your favorite team not having a good performance in the match so that you won't look disappointed with their performance. However, our favorite team will continue to play with a good performance to show they will never give up easily.

But some people continue to place bets on the opposing team and choose not to watch the match this time because they can't bear to see their favorite team not having a big chance of winning. They want to place bets and enjoy the betting.

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February 16, 2024, 04:46:41 PM
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It's common to have fan bias in gambling, and I admit, I also mostly bet on my favorite players, club, or teams. But I have noticed and learned that it's very important to recognize or do some data and analysis rather than base on my emotional attachment to the player, clubs, or teams. It's good to make objective decisions to gain more profitable betting outcomes.
That's a good point. I also believe that a person should either place no bet when their favorite team, player, or club is playing if they know the opponent is stronger, or they should get a grip on their emotions and place the bet on the side that they know is stronger even though the opponent of the team they have placed their bet on is their favorite.
When you do this, you will win even if you lose because if your favorite team wins, that is still a happy moment for you. After all, your favorites have won the game, and if your favorite side loses the game, you won't be as sad as you would be because you have won your bet which means you have got monetary gains if you didn't get emotionally victorious.

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