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March 19, 2024, 09:44:36 PM
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Most of the cultures have different rituals and traditions during or after someone's wake. To the other nations, that's a disrespectful thing to do when you're going to ask the relatives to have some table there to play poker cards and have some bets. I think it will be understandable if it's just for fun and there are no bets at all. But if it's going to be done in the form of real gambling during someone's wake, the family might feel disrespected about it. Otherwise, if the dead is a known gambler then they would allow that to pass on his legacy and remember him like what he's done and hobbies when he's still alive.

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March 19, 2024, 09:56:41 PM
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I just heard this because maybe I currently live where gambling is still a taboo, even for some reason in some areas it is still limited and even prohibited so that for gambling licenses with family it will definitely be very difficult to happen because of what exists. This will actually create new problems for those of us who really want to gamble.

However, for some games such as card games still occur and can be done as long as there is no bet in it because it is only used for fun and strengthening the relationship so that there is no element of gambling in it, but this is also not done every day because there are several situations and conditions that sometimes do not allow it and can only be used when there is time to relax and gather with the extended family, maybe something like this can happen.

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March 19, 2024, 10:05:18 PM
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Very strange, and maybe this is the first time I've heard of a ritual like this. I consider this unusual, but each region has different characteristics, and socio-cultural, so I don't blame this, especially since this is related to traditions passed down from generation to generation. So we as lay people need to respect all these differences.

However, because some regions and many communities have a bad view of gambling, the general public may think that rituals like this are unusual and quite contrary to existing norms.
And will such rituals continue? Yes, I think that when this has been done for generations, of course this uniqueness will always be maintained from generation to generation, this will continue but will only develop in that scope. Because of this, with many people having bad views about gambling, it will be quite difficult for traditions or culture like this to be accepted by the outside community. And if the reason is "because there is a family who needs to cover the costs of the remaining family" I think this is an illogical reason, because when someone sympathizes and cares enough about the family left behind, then he will immediately give the money he has without additionally you have to play gambling first.

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March 19, 2024, 10:12:25 PM
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I am familiar with this tradition and when I was a kid I do really thought that it is a bad thing and that people should focus more with the mourn and not with activities involving money or gambling to be more specific. As I grow up and learned that it is helping the family in the wake, and yes financially. It also adds "bond" to people who attended the wake in some ways. But there are people who are not having the intention to mourn; they're only visiting the wake because of these activities. Is it a bad thing? Morally, yes however no matter how we look at it, it is indeed legal and with approval from the family of the wake..
Haven't heard of this as it's my first time and it's sounds interesting going by the motive of the organization of such gambling games under the wake. I hope people don't get too excited to wish for more of these wake's because the more the wakes the more loved ones that are lost to death.

On the bright side, the initiative acts as a succor of relief to some of the financial burden surrounding burial rites and it also  while under the wake help reduce the grieve of the bereaves as they have people around to play with and forget their sorrows with some euphoria that's lifting from the shock of the loss.
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March 19, 2024, 10:16:05 PM
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This is legal in our country provided that you ask permission from authorities, they allow gambling like card games and color games they allocate a fee, or what we call in our country a "tong" for the family of the bereaved so they can cover the expenses of the family during their hard times.
Do you have a similar practice in your country and is this legal in your country?

I often play games during the wake to keep up with friends and relatives of the bereaved this is to sympathize with the family, these are friendly games and the tong will help the family, it's been with this tradition ever since in our country, and I believe it will keep on as long as there are families who need to cover expenses of the family's who are left.
Gambling is not legal in my country so most of the gambling activities in my country are online based. However, those gamblers who participate in offline gambling mainly participate in gambling activities under the cover of social laws and police systems. So it is not possible to practice gambling even if there is an absolute desire. Certainly not more likely in my case because I don't really participate in any other item outside of Sportsbetting so I usually don't need to prepare or practice for Sportsbetting.

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March 19, 2024, 10:52:08 PM
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This kind of culture isn't a thing where I'm from - Based on my knowledge, I haven't seen or heard of such a culture; this is actually my first time. haha. Even though gambling is accepted and legal in my country,  I think you might even get sanctioned by the community if you do such as it would seem very disrespectful to the dead and probably, the culture. Except they (the deceased), family or culture requested it, it's a no-no.  But since it is a culture elsewhere, I can't condemn it although I am quite fascinated that such things like these are available elsewhere in people's culture.  

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I don't know such a tradition exists, in my country, gambling is extremely free and you'll only hear advises like gamble responsibly and others. Its interesting hearing of the practice in your own country, but I'm sure people play with VPN because there are no country without active gamblers, only that they do it undercover.

In my country, you can engage in offline and online gambling without any restrictions that people even go to the extent of taking it as their full time job. No matter how hard you try to convince those addicts to gamble responsibly, it doesn't yield fruit because they're stuck in it. I wish some of them existed in your country, maybe the story would've been different

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March 20, 2024, 11:02:13 AM
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This kind of culture isn't a thing where I'm from - Based on my knowledge, I haven't seen or heard of such a culture; this is actually my first time. haha. Even though gambling is accepted and legal in my country,  I think you might even get sanctioned by the community if you do such as it would seem very disrespectful to the dead and probably, the culture. Except they (the deceased), family or culture requested it, it's a no-no.  But since it is a culture elsewhere, I can't condemn it although I am quite fascinated that such things like these are available elsewhere in people's culture.  

This is well known in some countries in Southeast Asia part, Gambling is legal in our country and much legal if there's a funeral because some baranggay officials allowed them to do that especially if the funeral is held inside the house only, unlike private funeral houses where only limited people can go and there is no place for people who want to gamble. Believe it or not, it's normal to do it here in our area, because having gamblers at a funeral also helps because when they win, they donate their winnings to the dead, that's what's called "tong" and that money will help the family of the deceased, it can be used for burial or additional expenses for reading or praying.



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March 20, 2024, 11:55:29 AM
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I am familiar with this tradition and when I was a kid I do really thought that it is a bad thing and that people should focus more with the mourn and not with activities involving money or gambling to be more specific. As I grow up and learned that it is helping the family in the wake, and yes financially. It also adds "bond" to people who attended the wake in some ways. But there are people who are not having the intention to mourn; they're only visiting the wake because of these activities. Is it a bad thing? Morally, yes however no matter how we look at it, it is indeed legal and with approval from the family of the wake..
Haven't heard of this as it's my first time and it's sounds interesting going by the motive of the organization of such gambling games under the wake. I hope people don't get too excited to wish for more of these wake's because the more the wakes the more loved ones that are lost to death.

On the bright side, the initiative acts as a succor of relief to some of the financial burden surrounding burial rites and it also  while under the wake help reduce the grieve of the bereaves as they have people around to play with and forget their sorrows with some euphoria that's lifting from the shock of the loss.
Actually, some people have done this illegally before. But, they will make it look legal in a hardcore way. How? They will take advantage of the less fortunate (poor) families of the deceased to extend the wake they will bite this kind of trick because they need the donation to pay the bills for the burial grounds and other payments.
Others are actually renting dead people so that they continue their gambling activities and there is news that these schemes are being raided by the police because there's really no permit for it although it looks legal outside.
I've lived in the streets and I knew a place before where the gambling game "Sakla" happens every day although it's been a week or more. Most of the time the dead should only be there for a week, but there are times that it takes months and the gamblers are still going there.
Sad but true. Those in these types of businesses are taking advantage of it just because it will look legal and the police would not even look for permits until maybe someone tells them what is happening.

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