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June 30, 2024, 11:59:29 PM
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AI is a double edged sword and this is common sense since ages op. How? AI automates many manual activities making life easier for people around the world, but it replaces some of the workforce too causing job losses.

Some people focus more on the good part while some others focus more on the bad part. Whatever the case, AI is already taking over the world slowly and steadily for better or for worse.
Yes, there's no stopping AI anymore. As long as computer technology lives on, AI will always be a part of it. But my point is, instead of competing with AI works, why not just improve our individual job's quality and be more efficient and effective so that the management won't resort into using AI. Know that computers also make mistakes, it's not perfect. Just like humans as well. But if we become more effective in our daily works, I don't think AI will have a place in the working industry, except if the management chose not to hire workers anymore, just stick to AI for money saving.

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July 01, 2024, 02:05:11 AM
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Automation has been taking jobs in manufacturing and a few other industries already for many decades. Now they are using the “AI" marketing buzzword but these machines are only doing what they have already been programmed to do and aren’t capable of learning anything new on their own until a programmer updates their software.

I’m not sure how good for the economy this will be. Usually, working at a fast food restaurant is one of those things you can do as a last resort when you are unable to find employment but now that won’t even require a human workforce. More people could end up on welfare, draining resources from the government, instead of doing something productive even if it is unskilled labor.

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July 01, 2024, 02:53:24 AM
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Every revolution in the world throughout history brings with it positive and negative things, and artificial intelligence has the same positive and negative aspects.

At the present time, I think we do not have to worry too much, but it is certain that this will be a big problem in the distant future. Most countries in the world are moving towards artificial intelligence and automation little by little, and robots will replace humans.

We cannot confront development. On the contrary, we must strive to adapt to it, contain it, and benefit from it as much as possible. People who can adapt will inevitably benefit and will find new fields of work, but for those who cannot adapt and develop themselves, they will certainly suffer greatly.

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July 01, 2024, 08:03:40 AM
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The ideal world should be the employee is being given a chance to increase productivity through the use of AI in their working environment, but we sure aren't living in an ideal world where such thing could really happen.
with the emergence of so many companies trying to leverage AI into using it for replacing human workforce, kinda self explanatory what direction our future gonna be taking, eventually it's gonna be the same as mailman being replaced by email all over again.

what can we do just follow where the river flow and try to learn new skill which is AI related from scratch. but, at this point i'm really hoping that there will be higher taxes for the use of AI that could give government more money to provide welfare to the people that probably gonna get affected heavily by the use of robotic work force.
because I can see that there gonna be so many unemployment.

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July 01, 2024, 09:11:12 AM
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AI or any other form of technology that will emerge will possibly make humans lose their jobs, but only in certain cases and that only reduces, and also opens up opportunities for new forms of work that have never existed before, and humans are created to always be able to adapt to everything that happens, so that in the future humans will also benefit from the massive use of AI, and rather than worrying about the bad impacts that might occur, it is better to learn about AI so that we will get good impacts from this form of technology that is impossible to stop, apart from accepting and using it well for life, it might make things easier later.
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July 01, 2024, 09:49:24 AM
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I don see any reason why human race will be afraid of AI taken over the jobs meant for human. At some point I was thinking likewise but I had a rethink after I watched a video that changed my mentality. This video talks about AI being an assistant to human by reducing stress and not taken job away from humanity. According to that video it talked about how people where frightened about the previous invention that people love ans cherished most today, which are plan, cars, factory machines, heavy duty robot machine and many other robotics control devices, which has become a friend to man now. people depends on those rejected invention for survival because without them most people would have been long dead. Although there is always a disadvantage attached to anything that is good, but we can't forget the fact that they are helpful. Most of those AI will creatore employment because there will be alot of AI engineers to fix those AI incase of any damages or can be working in a robot manufacturing factory. Or better still the robot will be an assistant to what we do because no matter how smart a Robotbis it can't do everything on its own without command. So the command becomes your job.

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July 01, 2024, 10:02:48 AM
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If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich?

The revolution has occurred where poor people will continue to be workers for rich people, only now the pattern of jobs available is starting to shift.
Sophistication will continue to emerge and every period new things will emerge and humans will be required to be more able to keep up. I saw a small example of a shop that created a group assignment in Scientific form, now they can complete that assignment outside of the work done by humans because they are using ChatGPT.

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I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers.
Contract jobs should also have an employment agreement and if they are fired due to a mistake they may not receive compensation. It's I same as a regular job and if a mistake is made during the job, you shouldn't get compensation either.
In my country there is still a balance between permanent workers and contract work, but in some periods there has been a trend towards contracts for hired workers.
The reason is that they can evaluate workers every year and if they are not productive they can be dismissed respectfully.

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July 01, 2024, 11:14:56 AM
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Cheap human labor is still more affordable for the employers than investing in robots and AI.
Where do you live? I don't want to watch this Youtube video, but I can assume that this AI restaurant bot has been installed in some Japanese or South Korean restaurant(or maybe somewhere in the USA). Those two countries are pretty open to technological innovations and they have problems with not having enough workforce to be hired to do physical labor.
I think that AI won't become a threat to the working class in the next 5-10 years. The economic concept of firing millions of people and replacing them with bots is unsustainable, because the workers are consumers. Creating mass unemployment would also create a recession(which is a severe drop in the consumer demand for goods and services). This would be very bad for the business owners.

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July 01, 2024, 11:50:30 AM
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AI is a double edged sword and this is common sense since ages op. How? AI automates many manual activities making life easier for people around the world, but it replaces some of the workforce too causing job losses.

Some people focus more on the good part while some others focus more on the bad part. Whatever the case, AI is already taking over the world slowly and steadily for better or for worse.
Yes, there's no stopping AI anymore. As long as computer technology lives on, AI will always be a part of it. But my point is, instead of competing with AI works, why not just improve our individual job's quality and be more efficient and effective so that the management won't resort into using AI. Know that computers also make mistakes, it's not perfect. Just like humans as well. But if we become more effective in our daily works, I don't think AI will have a place in the working industry, except if the management chose not to hire workers anymore, just stick to AI for money saving.

Using AI can not only save money but can also ensure efficiency and quality of work . Even when workers try to improve their performance, they cannot compare with machines, can you work 24/7 without taking a break? But AI and robots can work without rest and not only that, they have almost no performance decline like humans . So I think it's inevitable that companies want to use AI to replace humans because their goal is to maximize savings and create the best profits, they don't care about anything else. The rise of AI is exciting for companies, organizations, and leaders , but from a worker's perspective , it's truly alarming.

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July 01, 2024, 12:05:31 PM
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I saw a video on my social media there's a restaurant that using AI and almost 100% automated, I thought it's a new video, but actually it has been around for six months.

If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich?

I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers.

I understand that permanent workers are just a "myth", but if the companies suffer bad financial and want to reduce the employees, they would fire the contract workers first, so permanent workers are safer.
Actually, something similar has happened in my country and in the country where I work now. Where many companies and large factories no longer use a permanent employee appointment system. And most currently use a work contract system which is quite limited, namely only 2 to 3 years and must be renewed if the contract expires. And even that is quite difficult because you have to reapply.

And regarding jobs being replaced by robots and AI, I think this is also increasing in my country. but in my country the big factories are only just starting to use robots and maybe not yet using the latest AI. but the presence of these robots has indeed caused many factory employees to be laid off and lose their jobs. And now here so many people have lost their jobs. But what's unique here is that people who have lost their jobs are starting to create their own businesses and some have even succeeded in becoming content creators. And most people who lost their jobs in the real world are now switching to looking for work in the online world and it seems that many are also succeeding in this digital industry. Because currently there are far more opportunities that can be obtained from online business than offline. So in my opinion Ai will never completely replace humans in work. It's just that there will indeed be major changes in the type of work humans do. maybe heavy work can be done with robots and AI but light work can still be done by humans.

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July 01, 2024, 01:02:17 PM
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I am one of those who thinks that AI is gonna take away jobs and the economy is gonna take a bad turn if this goes on like this. The world is getting more advanced everyday and AI is is brilliant, a good way to make so much easier, a boss getting rid of secretaries while Secretaries getting lazy by using AI to  generate her boss letters, business proposals and much more, it is not only affecting the world the workforce but it is also making people lazy, students are starting to write their projects on AI, i know you will say there is a way to know if a student wrote their project with an AI or not but don't forget AI is advancing and for every program created to detect this another program will be created to counter that, but in the end everyone is relying on AI to see what and what not, AI replies emails, AI drives, AI cleans, AI works in the restaurant, AI delivers food, it is only gonna get worse, people are losing their jobs and the more this goes on there is trouble for the future. My 2 cents, i have more to write but i stop here for now.
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There is no doubt that a lot of jobs can be potentially taken over by AI and robots, but there will still be a lot of jobs that will require human employees, and a lot of companies wouldn't be able to buy and make use of AI machinery because their costs will probably be higher than the amount of money they pay an employee. However, this will cause some issues for sure, people will have to find other sources of income if their jobs are taken over by an AI.

We need to remember that no problems comes without a solution, so every problem has one or more solutions which is why I think even if a lot of job sectors are taken over by AI models and robots, there will always be some solution for humans to work and earn money to make a livelihood for themselves.

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I saw a video on my social media there's a restaurant that using AI and almost 100% automated, I thought it's a new video, but actually it has been around for six months.

If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich?

I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers.

I understand that permanent workers are just a "myth", but if the companies suffer bad financial and want to reduce the employees, they would fire the contract workers first, so permanent workers are safer.


Artificial Supplementary Intelligence is good, which is what you're seeing right now. Cause if this is what popped off during 2022, we'd probably have Universal Basic Income by now. Supplementary AI takes the menial work out of the hands of the people and instead allows us to pursue more fulfilling careers, push for better endeavors, and be able to reach far greater heights. But instead what we got is generative AI that doesn't spew good shit, takes the work out of the hands of the people that NEEDs that work (artists, painters, singers, etc.) to create abominations and utter defilements of their craft, all because it's way cheaper to generate them than hire the real thing, and they can use and abuse the AI without it calling for corporate or sending a complaint to the Better Business Bureau.

So the thing that you actually saw here is the "good ending" per se. Too bad we can't have nice things in this planet cause everyone's after stealing shit from other people instead of making everyone's lives a little bit better so instead of creating supporting AI what we got is the generative variant that doesn't even do shit.

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I saw a video on my social media there's a restaurant that using AI and almost 100% automated, I thought it's a new video, but actually it has been around for six months.

If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich?

I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers.

I understand that permanent workers are just a "myth", but if the companies suffer bad financial and want to reduce the employees, they would fire the contract workers first, so permanent workers are safer.


We are gradually moving deeper into technology and technology integration is happening in almost every work. At first I was also very concerned that it might put many people out of work which would affect the world economy. However it is crucial that technology accelerates economic mobility. It could also be that the clash between the rich and the poor due to economic disparity is hard to say whether this will actually happen. But I think day by day maybe there will be more revolution in people's income.

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There is no doubt that a lot of jobs can be potentially taken over by AI and robots, but there will still be a lot of jobs that will require human employees, and a lot of companies wouldn't be able to buy and make use of AI machinery because their costs will probably be higher than the amount of money they pay an employee. However, this will cause some issues for sure, people will have to find other sources of income if their jobs are taken over by an AI.

We need to remember that no problems comes without a solution, so every problem has one or more solutions which is why I think even if a lot of job sectors are taken over by AI models and robots, there will always be some solution for humans to work and earn money to make a livelihood for themselves.
If there are many robots, I think mechanic jobs will raise since they need to maintenance and repair the robots. But, if someone can create a robot that examine and repair other robots, then it's over.

There have been cars with autonomous driving technology since few years ago, even though it's not yet safe till now, if people can start to trust driverless cars, it's a threat to delivery courier and Uber's workers.



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I don see any reason why human race will be afraid of AI taken over the jobs meant for human. At some point I was thinking likewise but I had a rethink after I watched a video that changed my mentality. This video talks about AI being an assistant to human by reducing stress and not taken job away from humanity. According to that video it talked about how people where frightened about the previous invention that people love ans cherished most today, which are plan, cars, factory machines, heavy duty robot machine and many other robotics control devices, which has become a friend to man now. people depends on those rejected invention for survival because without them most people would have been long dead. Although there is always a disadvantage attached to anything that is good, but we can't forget the fact that they are helpful. Most of those AI will creatore employment because there will be alot of AI engineers to fix those AI incase of any damages or can be working in a robot manufacturing factory. Or better still the robot will be an assistant to what we do because no matter how smart a Robotbis it can't do everything on its own without command. So the command becomes your job.
You don't need to be surprised that what you think could be an assistant to you can likewise take your job from you from the thing is able to do the same thing you can do for the company. Many companies are looking for a cheaper ways to put things into action and we are not going to be surprised that artificial intelligence will do many of the jobs that humans normally do to earn small money for themselves. Maybe in the future, there wouldn't be some jobs that people are doing these days because artificial intelligence will fit in and even do more than we can actually do. We should just wait for more years to come because many jobs wouldn't be available again.

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July 01, 2024, 05:53:44 PM
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I saw a video on my social media there's a restaurant that using AI and almost 100% automated, I thought it's a new video, but actually it has been around for six months.

If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich?

I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers.

I understand that permanent workers are just a "myth", but if the companies suffer bad financial and want to reduce the employees, they would fire the contract workers first, so permanent workers are safer.


In terms of business benefits, of course, if there is a cheap cost to spend instead of hiring employees who have many demands and our obligations to them as business owners, it is better for me to hire AI, in simple terms like that, I only need to hire one technician to take care of AI and the machines I use if there is a problem, or a call is enough to control if AI has disrupted the world of work.

While AI is still being developed to help human work, and large employers will definitely replace their employees with robots that have AI power, because it is far more profitable than hiring employees, who are often off / leave / sick and ask a lot of things if there is something they don't like from company policy. IMO

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July 01, 2024, 07:54:17 PM
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I don see any reason why human race will be afraid of AI taken over the jobs meant for human. At some point I was thinking likewise but I had a rethink after I watched a video that changed my mentality. This video talks about AI being an assistant to human by reducing stress and not taken job away from humanity. According to that video it talked about how people where frightened about the previous invention that people love ans cherished most today, which are plan, cars, factory machines, heavy duty robot machine and many other robotics control devices, which has become a friend to man now. people depends on those rejected invention for survival because without them most people would have been long dead. Although there is always a disadvantage attached to anything that is good, but we can't forget the fact that they are helpful. Most of those AI will creatore employment because there will be alot of AI engineers to fix those AI incase of any damages or can be working in a robot manufacturing factory. Or better still the robot will be an assistant to what we do because no matter how smart a Robotbis it can't do everything on its own without command. So the command becomes your job.
You don't need to be surprised that what you think could be an assistant to you can likewise take your job from you from the thing is able to do the same thing you can do for the company. Many companies are looking for a cheaper ways to put things into action and we are not going to be surprised that artificial intelligence will do many of the jobs that humans normally do to earn small money for themselves. Maybe in the future, there wouldn't be some jobs that people are doing these days because artificial intelligence will fit in and even do more than we can actually do. We should just wait for more years to come because many jobs wouldn't be available again.
They would really be doing their best on finding ways on how they would really be able to save up on which it would really be that understandable that if ever they would be seeing something like this on which they could be able to make use or integrate on then there's no doubt that they would really be having such switch. This is why there would really be those workers or individuals whom would really be that getting affected on the moment that there would really be such change on which this is something which is really that understandable. Changes is inevitable because we do know that technology does becomes even more advanced and more that giving out that kind of convenience into human being on which lets just not really that making out that focusing too much into its cons but rather we do really tend to see or look when it comes to its usage and benefits or simply into its positive benefits.

It might have that having those effects but doesnt mean that it would really be that making the world worse. Somehow if you are someone whom you do look
that your job would be replaced by a robot soon then it would be better that you should really be starting on looking for some back up now.

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July 01, 2024, 10:12:02 PM
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Automation has been taking jobs in manufacturing and a few other industries already for many decades. Now they are using the “AI" marketing buzzword but these machines are only doing what they have already been programmed to do and aren’t capable of learning anything new on their own until a programmer updates their software.

I’m not sure how good for the economy this will be. Usually, working at a fast food restaurant is one of those things you can do as a last resort when you are unable to find employment but now that won’t even require a human workforce. More people could end up on welfare, draining resources from the government, instead of doing something productive even if it is unskilled labor.
Things were bad even before the introduction of AI in our industries, now that they have introduced the use of AI it will be more worse. The governments are already shouting that there's no vacancy to recruit more workers and also those that are working were not paid as they are supposed to be paid due to one thing and the other. now that AI is even available to replace human being, the government and company directors will be eager to get rid of human services so that they could start using AI to reduce cost. And these AI can not do things on their own, but on the way they are programmed. So still their service cannot be compared with the human.

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Using AI can not only save money but can also ensure efficiency and quality of work . Even when workers try to improve their performance, they cannot compare with machines, can you work 24/7 without taking a break? But AI and robots can work without rest and not only that, they have almost no performance decline like humans . So I think it's inevitable that companies want to use AI to replace humans because their goal is to maximize savings and create the best profits, they don't care about anything else. The rise of AI is exciting for companies, organizations, and leaders , but from a worker's perspective , it's truly alarming.
The system is rare with complex tasks but never to panic because AI reduced our stress to the minimum. Doing difficult tasks shouldn't be a problem because AI is there to filled in all pending tasks by mere command given to them by humans. I know this might be a little bit complicated but everything comes with full surprises. AI existence will definitely make more enchancing hands and we should be extremely grateful with the system since they're doing everything smooth for us.

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