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June 20, 2024, 02:59:32 PM
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Yes that is right Bayern Leverkusen long undefeated streak shows how strong and determined they are. Even though they lost in final but it is clear that they are good team. And exactly hey can play well against tough opponents and have good chance of doing well in Champions League. Champions League has many strong teams but Leverkusen has already shown they can compete with the best in the Bundesliga. They might not win first place but I think they'll come close and do well in the competition. Their team work can help to stand against the tough teams and they already showed it.
I hope Leverkusen can achieve more than they have won this season, defeat in the Europa League Final disappointed everyone involved in Leverkusen. Due to a small mistake when facing Atalanta, they failed to win the first Treble Winner in its history. Next season Leverkusen will play in the Champions League, they must be better prepared and need to develop their strength to face bigger challenges. They may be able to maintain their dominance in the Bundesliga, but there is no guarantee of success in the Champions League because the level of competition there is more competitive than in any other tournament.

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June 20, 2024, 03:58:49 PM
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The fact that Bayern Leverkusen were undefeated until the final of the competition shows that they are very strong. However, a team that competes for a full season and is still beaten till the final is not a weak team, and that doesn’t mean they won’t perform as we are saying in the champions league.

I believe they can do it even in the champions league competition, even if they will perform the same as they are doing in the Bundesliga, because I know the Champions League has many more strong teams than the Bundesliga that Leverkusen have already used to, so the thing here is that Leverkusen will not be beaten in the champions league, but with their current status of performance, I believe even if they don't top the table, they will nearly make it to the top.

You are right, Leverkusen's loss at the end of the season doesn't mean that they are a weak team. Leverkusen has the strength to maintain their unbeaten streak next season. However, Leverkusen were unbeaten in the Bundesliga and did not lose any of their Europa League games till they lost the final to Atalanta. Leverkusen performed well throughout the season, even when they lost to Atalanta in the Europa League final, I wasn't surprised by the loss because they had performed at a high level this past season, and they are human, they will be weak in some matches, we shouldn't expect them to have the same record in every game they play.

I am confident that Leverkusen will have no challenge in their next Champions League games, we have seen how they dominated the Europa League this season, despite losing at the end of it. Xabi Alonso is a manager with Champions League experience, and I believe he has strategies to prepare for managing his club in this competition.

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June 20, 2024, 04:00:11 PM
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I hope Leverkusen can achieve more than they have won this season, defeat in the Europa League Final disappointed everyone involved in Leverkusen. Due to a small mistake when facing Atalanta, they failed to win the first Treble Winner in its history. Next season Leverkusen will play in the Champions League, they must be better prepared and need to develop their strength to face bigger challenges. They may be able to maintain their dominance in the Bundesliga, but there is no guarantee of success in the Champions League because the level of competition there is more competitive than in any other tournament.
This season Leverkusen has created a new record in the Bundesliga, although they failed to win the treble winner by winning the Europa League but still Leverkusen achievements this season are very extraordinary in the Bundesliga, I also hope that if Leverkusen is still able to maintain their performance next season to remain stable and can repeat all their successes this season in next season, so far the Bundesliga had to be dominated by Bayern Munich so it is surprising for us to see a team Others who are indeed able to do what Dortmund has not been able to do so far as Munich eternal rivals in the league, with the emergence of Leverkusen as a title contender team, of course we all hope that the Bundesliga will be more competitive than the previous season.

Alonso, of course, has to exert all his abilities in maintaining Leverkusen performance next season, because it will not be easy considering that currently some of Leverkusen main players are starting to be targeted by other teams, besides that playing in the Champions League of course has a different atmosphere compared to the European League and Bundesliga so it is required for Alonso to be able to maintain stability, consistency, performance and also the mentality of the team next season.

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June 20, 2024, 04:21:32 PM
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Leverkusen is showing a pretty good performance at the moment in the Bundesliga, but on the contrary the first defeat of the season they got in the Europa League against a team that has never been the favorite to win the Europa League, the defeat to Atlanta of course indicates that the mentality possessed by Leverkusen is not enough to compete in the current European competition, this season Leverkusen failed in Europe after the lack of mentality they have so that our doubts arise To be able to see them go far in the Champions League next season, as you said, of course at the moment Leverkusen still needs to improve the quality of the squad they have to maintain their Bundesliga champion status and also compete in the Champions League next season.

Currently it is reported that some Leverkusen players are starting to be approached by big European teams, so if Leverkusen loses some of their main players this season, of course it will be very risky for Leverkusen, in addition to having to maintain the current squad, of course Leverkusen must bring in several other players who are able to improve their mentality and performance next season,  I personally see if maybe Leverkusen is still able to compete in the top 4 of the Bundesliga next season, but competing for the title again certainly seems impossible because currently Bayern Munich is starting to improve their squad.

The fact that Bayern Leverkusen were undefeated until the final of the competition shows that they are very strong. However, a team that competes for a full season and is still beaten till the final is not a weak team, and that doesn’t mean they won’t perform as we are saying in the champions league.

I believe they can do it even in the champions league competition, even if they will perform the same as they are doing in the Bundesliga, because I know the Champions League has many more strong teams than the Bundesliga that Leverkusen have already used to, so the thing here is that Leverkusen will not be beaten in the champions league, but with their current status of performance, I believe even if they don't top the table, they will nearly make it to the top.

Leverkusen's Bundesliga undefeated record was awesome. It demonstrates they're tough and willing to fight the best. However, losing the Europa League final looks bad. Like a blazing neon banner highlighting their flaws. Top Champions League teams will see that and exploit.

They can compete in the Bundesliga, but the Champions League is different. Competition is fierce, pressure is high, and one mistake may ruin everything. Leverkusen needs more than courage and desire to survive that jungle. They need more players and a flexible strategy. Not that they can't hang, but topping the table or even close? I wouldn't bet on it.

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June 20, 2024, 05:04:35 PM
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Quote from: FabrizioRomano
Bayern and Fulham have an ongoing negotiation for João Palhinha, advancing despite an initial gap in valuation.
Palhinha hopes for Fulham to let him join Bayern after personal terms agreed upon, being committed & professional despite the Deadline Day move collapsing last summer.

Well, João Palhinha has definitely been professional and he has also played well. If Palhinha is actually able to join Bayern Munich, it is going to be a big step up for him. So I think the current club should actually let him go if everything is good and the money they are getting from Bayern Munich for him is also good.

By the way, Palhinha also has to remember that he will have to perform really well with Die Roten if the deal is completed. Because right now there is a huge expectation from Die Roten to win the Bundesliga title. And whoever is going to play for Munich will have to play really well. But I don’t think any player is actually going to deny getting a transfer from a club like Fulham to Bayern Munich just because there are big expectations.

Source: soccernews.com

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June 20, 2024, 05:07:07 PM
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Xabi is a good coach so far, he managed to make a team that had never won the Bundesliga title get it even with a questionable team composition. For me, his achievements are the result of luck meeting the right time, when they won the Bundesliga, Bayern Munich & Borussia Dortmund were in chaotic form, just look at second place in the standings, is it Bayern Munich or Borussia Dortmund? no, it's Stuttgart.

There will be no more Bundesliga titles for Bayer Leverkusen in the future, no more.
But talking about next season it will be different and I have the same belief as you because if you look at the history of the Bundesliga it will never change from the strength or dominance that Bayern Munich has. Xabi Alonso can make bigger history if he is able to present the trophy again next season, but relying on strength like now feels difficult.

Stick to your initial statement that historically the Bundesliga has always been dominated by Bayern Munich and any result other than Bayern Munich winning the title is just luck.

However, it all also depends on Bayern Munich's luck next season, Vincent Kompany's lack of experience managing a big team might have an influence on Bayern Munich's luck next season. If Vincent Kompany's record starts well, there's no doubt that the Bundesliga will belong to Bayern Munich next season.

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June 20, 2024, 05:30:03 PM
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A club sometimes has its own goals, for example, Bayern Munich, which last season was overtaken by Leverkusen, but Bayern Munich prioritizes matches in the Champions League, even though they only reached the semi-finals, but that is proof that a club that has lost in the Bundesliga doesn't necessarily look weak like that what you said and I agree with all of this.

Not being able to occupy 1st position in the points table is not a big problem as long as Leverkusen can perform well in the Champions League as I said above and it is very natural that a club like Leverkusen, which managed to win the title last season, is more enthusiastic about being able to win a higher title, but it must giving up a little position in the domestic league.
Leverkusen I am sure that this club can show its strongest performance in the Champions League as long as it doesn't make many changes to the players, but I am a little doubtful that in the future Xabi Alonso will also prioritize the Bundesliga title and in the end its performance in the Champions League will be slightly affected.
I would feel like it would not be really a team that focuses on one thing. This team is a huge club with a lot of deep pockets, so that means they are capable of building a team that should be able to win the league, and the UCL without focusing on just one of them. I think it was 2020 when they won everything, league, cup, UCL, basically everything. That is why I feel like a defensive statement about how they did not focus on the league and just focused on UCL is just a cheap answer.


This season, they should focus on the league and the UCL at the same time, but if it's true that they can focus on just one, then they should focus on the league, because they need to get back to the top, that is the only way to grow better.

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June 20, 2024, 06:32:18 PM
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Last two season it was Union Berlin who narrowly escape relegation in this just concluded season; I hope we see another team again next season to have such performance as Stuttgart.
Bayern Munich and Leverkusen’s debate on who to win the League is still on and it is something we can’t conclude until we see Kompany’s effort in the beginning of next season.
To be honest i would say that we start from scratch again next season as there are so many changes for a lot of teams.
Bayern Munich , Stuttgart and also Leverkusen and Dortmund will be losing and getting players.
For sure Leverkusen and Munich  will be going into that as favorites.
Lets see what will happen after the Euro 2024.

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June 20, 2024, 06:38:54 PM
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I would feel like it would not be really a team that focuses on one thing. This team is a huge club with a lot of deep pockets, so that means they are capable of building a team that should be able to win the league, and the UCL without focusing on just one of them. I think it was 2020 when they won everything, league, cup, UCL, basically everything. That is why I feel like a defensive statement about how they did not focus on the league and just focused on UCL is just a cheap answer.


This season, they should focus on the league and the UCL at the same time, but if it's true that they can focus on just one, then they should focus on the league, because they need to get back to the top, that is the only way to grow better.
This season, Union Berlin as the one of Bundesliga team get appearance for playing in Champion League got decreasing their performance not only failure in Champion League but also finish one position above from relegation playoff team.
Difficult for Bundesliga team with their financial not stable yet keep focus in Champion League or domestic league, the same with Dortmund and Bayern Munich performance in Champion League but getting difficult how to make consistent performance in domestic league.

Dortmund although success lead until final round of Champion League but finish on 5th standings position and get luckiness after Bundesliga get extra quota slot until five team, if still has four team slot for Champion League participants seems Dortmund as the only one finalist team fail participants for next season.

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June 20, 2024, 06:55:54 PM
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If they succeed in maintaining their performance, then I am sure they will be able to talk a lot in the Champions League next season.
Success is mainly the priorities of elite clubs but when it involves Bundesliga clubs, we know exactly what they're fighting for. Bundesliga clubs are not relenting, we should expect massive domination from them next season and how they will trashed opponents and grab possible opportunities to win major league titles. Bayern Munich, Borrusia Dortmund and Bayer Leverkusen will go far in the UEFA Champions League next season. We know what these clubs are capable or and their ability to comprehend good purpose.
Dortmund had an excellent Champions League run. Still, "Domination"? Thats a big word. There is talent in the Bundesliga, that is certain. Bayern, Dortmund, Leverkusen, they're all world-class teams. But the Premier League and La Liga have more money, more superstars, more depth.

The Champions League is where the real men play. Going toe-to-toe with the top of the best is just as important as hammering up on your neighborhood competitors. I'll watch to see how those German teams perform against Manchester City or Real Madrid. We may then discuss "domination."

But hey, I like an underdog story as much as the next guy. Im going to be pulling for the Bundesliga teams to get loud. Maybe they'll surprise us all. But until then, lets keep things in perspective.

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June 20, 2024, 06:58:36 PM
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Yes that is right Bayern Leverkusen long undefeated streak shows how strong and determined they are. Even though they lost in final but it is clear that they are good team. And exactly hey can play well against tough opponents and have good chance of doing well in Champions League. Champions League has many strong teams but Leverkusen has already shown they can compete with the best in the Bundesliga. They might not win first place but I think they'll come close and do well in the competition. Their team work can help to stand against the tough teams and they already showed it.
I hope Leverkusen can achieve more than they have won this season, defeat in the Europa League Final disappointed everyone involved in Leverkusen. Due to a small mistake when facing Atalanta, they failed to win the first Treble Winner in its history. Next season Leverkusen will play in the Champions League, they must be better prepared and need to develop their strength to face bigger challenges. They may be able to maintain their dominance in the Bundesliga, but there is no guarantee of success in the Champions League because the level of competition there is more competitive than in any other tournament.

For sure, the champions league is not like the regular league, and again, Bayer leverkusen will feel very different even though they have a nice record in this season that just ended, but next season is something different because their joining the champions league is a big challenge to them, and losing is still per game. But I also felt bad when they lost in the final again, Atalanta, but nevertheless, they tried, and they will also try their best to see if they can make it in the champions league next season. 

So we will proudly wait and see their performances in the Champions League. It might be that what we think will happen to them will be different. Maybe they will surprise many people, as they also surprised people last season. So I am hoping to see more from Bayer Leverkusen, even though I know it will be slightly hard for them in the Champions League. 

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June 20, 2024, 07:39:21 PM
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I hope Leverkusen can achieve more than they have won this season, defeat in the Europa League Final disappointed everyone involved in Leverkusen. Due to a small mistake when facing Atalanta, they failed to win the first Treble Winner in its history. Next season Leverkusen will play in the Champions League, they must be better prepared and need to develop their strength to face bigger challenges. They may be able to maintain their dominance in the Bundesliga, but there is no guarantee of success in the Champions League because the level of competition there is more competitive than in any other tournament.
With the German bundesliga, I don't have much doubts about how much they may end up achieving but in the champions league my doubts are huge and it still doesn't mean I'm not wishing them well or will not be happy if they surpass my expectations for them in the champions league. One advantage Leverkusen may still have that may be their edge in the bundesliga is the fact that they still have the winning squad intact as at this moment, there's no transfer of any players yet neither has there been a change of coach so they still have a good level of stability with which they can capitalize on to start off the season on a good note.

Madrid a d Manchester city will most definitely get to be a very strong challenge to Leverkusen if they get lucky enough to get pass all other teams to the point where they meet with Madrid of Manchester city in the champions league, back in the bundesliga, in as much as we are all seeing them to have attained that level where they now look like a top team in the league, I still believe they will be more challenged than they were last season as others will be aiming at the league title too knowing that the top contender Bayern Munich may not be appearing in their best shape, it's an advantage for all other teams across the bundesliga.

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June 20, 2024, 08:25:22 PM
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But talking about next season it will be different and I have the same belief as you because if you look at the history of the Bundesliga it will never change from the strength or dominance that Bayern Munich has. Xabi Alonso can make bigger history if he is able to present the trophy again next season, but relying on strength like now feels difficult.

Stick to your initial statement that historically the Bundesliga has always been dominated by Bayern Munich and any result other than Bayern Munich winning the title is just luck.

However, it all also depends on Bayern Munich's luck next season, Vincent Kompany's lack of experience managing a big team might have an influence on Bayern Munich's luck next season. If Vincent Kompany's record starts well, there's no doubt that the Bundesliga will belong to Bayern Munich next season.

The length of time Bayern Munich has dominated the Bundesliga makes us have high confidence in them that they will eventually become champions at the end of the season, I think that assumption and mindset exists in most Bundeliga fans because of the length of time Bayern Munich has dominated and defended their title, which I am sure that many people, especially Bayern Munich fans, are experiencing great disappointment in the current season when Bayern Munich failed to defend their title. And on the other hand I can't say that the success achieved by other teams like Leverkusen is lucky, they set an unbeaten record throughout the season, meaning this is a serious threat to Bayern Munich for next season.

On the other hand I can't be sure whether Vincent Kompany is the right coach or not to restore Bayern Munich's significant performance for next season, but certainly one of Bayern Munich's officials said that one of the reasons why they chose Vincent Kompany as Tuchel's replacement was because he was considered an ambitious young coach who knew exactly what should happen on the pitch. For me, regardless of anything and anyone, I just hope that Bayern Munich will not be wrong in choosing a coach, because I see that Leverkusen is a big threat.

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June 20, 2024, 09:10:53 PM
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To be honest i would say that we start from scratch again next season as there are so many changes for a lot of teams.
Bayern Munich , Stuttgart and also Leverkusen and Dortmund will be losing and getting players.
For sure Leverkusen and Munich  will be going into that as favorites.
Lets see what will happen after the Euro 2024.
The appearance of Leverkusen and Bayern Munich is the performance that most people are waiting for now, and that is normal because these two clubs are the clubs that won the title for the first time with very good performances and the other is a club that has just experienced disappointment after their record was broken. They are both awaited by many people, Bayern Munich has a new coach and their new coach is a coach who is often talked about, because some people think that Vincent Kompany is not very experienced.

Leverkusen is a club that I think everyone would like to see. Apart from us being curious about what they will do, this cannot be separated from their extraordinary performance this season, even without losing in the Bundesliga and only losing 1 time in all the competitions they have played. Xabi Alonso will get a lot of attention if he succeeds in bringing Leverkusen to a consistent performance.

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June 20, 2024, 09:24:57 PM
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Leverkusen is a club that I think everyone would like to see. Apart from us being curious about what they will do, this cannot be separated from their extraordinary performance this season, even without losing in the Bundesliga and only losing 1 time in all the competitions they have played. Xabi Alonso will get a lot of attention if he succeeds in bringing Leverkusen to a consistent performance.
Leverkusen displayed a good performance last season, they had their best season last season because I don’t think they have such performance in the Bundesliga for more than a decade.

Next season will also be another season for Alonso to showcase his talent in the coming season; can he and his players repeat what they did last season?

Can Vincent Kompany bear the pressure from fans and be able to better than Tuchel in the coming season?

Let’s wait and see what the season comes with.

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June 20, 2024, 09:32:27 PM
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On the other hand I can't be sure whether Vincent Kompany is the right coach or not to restore Bayern Munich's significant performance for next season, but certainly one of Bayern Munich's officials said that one of the reasons why they chose Vincent Kompany as Tuchel's replacement was because he was considered an ambitious young coach who knew exactly what should happen on the pitch. For me, regardless of anything and anyone, I just hope that Bayern Munich will not be wrong in choosing a coach, because I see that Leverkusen is a big threat.
Vincent Kompany is a young coach who is not very experienced, but Bayern Munich trusts him to handle the team next season. This is a good thing, because if we look at Kompany's results in his previous team we will see statistics that were not expected and that even led to his team being relegated. With statistics like that, Bayern Munich still has hope in him, so Kompany must answer that trust.
However, we also cannot fully judge from the statistics of the previous team, because after all there may be things that make Kompany unable to formulate a strategy very well, or his team cannot execute it very well.
At Bayern Munich he will have a good squad, the players there are players with good abilities, so that will make it easier for him to implement strategies in my opinion. We'll see what he can do with Bayern Munich next season.

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June 20, 2024, 09:45:08 PM
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Yes that is right Bayern Leverkusen long undefeated streak shows how strong and determined they are. Even though they lost in final but it is clear that they are good team. And exactly hey can play well against tough opponents and have good chance of doing well in Champions League. Champions League has many strong teams but Leverkusen has already shown they can compete with the best in the Bundesliga. They might not win first place but I think they'll come close and do well in the competition. Their team work can help to stand against the tough teams and they already showed it.
I hope Leverkusen can achieve more than they have won this season, defeat in the Europa League Final disappointed everyone involved in Leverkusen. Due to a small mistake when facing Atalanta, they failed to win the first Treble Winner in its history. Next season Leverkusen will play in the Champions League, they must be better prepared and need to develop their strength to face bigger challenges. They may be able to maintain their dominance in the Bundesliga, but there is no guarantee of success in the Champions League because the level of competition there is more competitive than in any other tournament.
Of course, the level in the Champions League is more difficult than the level in the European league. I don't think they will continue this undefeated in the Champions League. Strong teams like Manchester City and Real Madrid would probably beat Leverkusen in the groups. It was a great year for Leverkusen, but they lost to Atalanta in the final. I wish they had won that match too, but they couldn't. I can't predict what will happen in UCL, it will be a very competitive year.

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June 20, 2024, 09:55:46 PM
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I hope Leverkusen can achieve more than they have won this season, defeat in the Europa League Final disappointed everyone involved in Leverkusen. Due to a small mistake when facing Atalanta, they failed to win the first Treble Winner in its history. Next season Leverkusen will play in the Champions League, they must be better prepared and need to develop their strength to face bigger challenges. They may be able to maintain their dominance in the Bundesliga, but there is no guarantee of success in the Champions League because the level of competition there is more competitive than in any other tournament.

Yeah, sure, Bayern Leverkusen are good, but the level of competition in the Champions League is different, and they can't do the same thing as you said. I agree with that. However, the team they will meet in the Champions League competition is different and also far better than the team they experience matches with. This team has a very good squad with many talented players. Bayern Leverkusen are also good, but the Champions League is just going to be a different tournament for them, and I'm not expecting them to keep the same record as they did in the Bundesliga; rather, they will try their best, and let's see if they can take Bayern Munich down in the Champions League. as they were in the Bundesliga last season.

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June 20, 2024, 11:40:48 PM
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Last two season it was Union Berlin who narrowly escape relegation in this just concluded season; I hope we see another team again next season to have such performance as Stuttgart.
Bayern Munich and Leverkusen’s debate on who to win the League is still on and it is something we can’t conclude until we see Kompany’s effort in the beginning of next season.
To be honest i would say that we start from scratch again next season as there are so many changes for a lot of teams.
Bayern Munich , Stuttgart and also Leverkusen and Dortmund will be losing and getting players.
For sure Leverkusen and Munich  will be going into that as favorites.
Lets see what will happen after the Euro 2024.
Well only one thing will as you have already sighted and that's the circulation of players because they are definitely going to be some new talents that will be showed off after the euro tournament and lots of clubs will be actively trying to adds these talents to their squad. For me I think I would rule out Bayern Leverkusen first in next season competition because something in me just feels they are going to lose players and which may affect their performance.

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Yes, it is related to the violent confrontation between Hummels and Terzic in the week of the UCL final. Maybe because Hummels is a senior player there and really understands various things, then he criticized Terzic regarding the tactics he had prepared. hemm, this was quite exciting at that time. In fact, it is a very decisive event.

But never mind, the point is that no one wins or loses. yes, both of them left Dortmund. And now, Nuri Şahin as the new coach of Drotmund has been officially confirmed and they are getting started with several players to get in the transfer market later.
Humels had no right to question Terzic's authority, as an experienced player, he should have understood that bad authority in the team is worse than bad strategy on the field. Moreover, if Terzic was able to reach the Champions League final, even if it happened with great luck, he was able to achieve this, which means blaming him for wrong tactics or something else is wrong. As a result, Humels had to pay a big price for his actions, Dortmund lost an excellent coach, and Humels had to leave the team.
This is certainly a very unfortunate incident, they fought very hard until they reached the final. And playing against Real Madrid is not an easy thing with the club's various experiences and solidity. So, this should be a learning experience for Dortmund, both the coach and the players in the future. But this is already in progress. Both have left Dortmund, even though both are quite vital parts of the club. And Hummel left as a free agent. This is a good opportunity for Roma to get him.

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