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October 22, 2024, 01:44:02 AM
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I have contacted shuffle more than 100 times and now I have started to involve legal entities due to the ongoing scams presented to us across the various social media outlets. In addition to this, their agents have acted in way that would constitute stalking and if only I knew beforehand what they were up to this could have been avoided.

Please see the details below and in my other post raising questions of ethics regarding their operations posted by another by talk user where I detailed more than a year long unsuccessful effort to bring this matter closure and unsuccessful doing so.

They can say anything they like but the fact remains their agents live in restricted geographies and to retain cash outs and earnings and airdrops for any reason related to this would mean they know and choose not to identify users early and prevent it from continuing to happen but this is actually the opposite in fact they hope you continue to lose until you’re ready to cash out and then the oh so familiar scam requesting documents combined with very long delays despite there being automated solutions to this centuries old problem. It’s bad faith business and I intend to move forward with legal remedies short of Noah actually coming to the table to negotiate with me solution that is adequate and fair.


After noticing nearly every player partner was generating far less than the promised rates I did some digging and found that they all were being told vague excuses for inaccurate earnings. Any person simply needs to do is calculate their campaigns statement against their stable coins and see it’s very far off.


That platform token interests me. I am assuming i am "mining" it by gambling? Does the size of my airdrop depend on how much i gamble and on which games?
Also it would be nice to read a whitepaper, or any paper about tokenomics and everything about it to make a decision if it's good enough reason to gamble in your casino before it launches.

More details will be released soon, it's safe to assume that your play on Shuffle will contribute directly to the size of your airdrop. Updates will be announced on our Twitter.



A sample of the user defending shuffle here on this topic before blocking me just like shuffle:
SupItsJ
Hi mouse
16:33
Have some time maybe today?
17:40
Little_Mouse
In reply to this message
hey
17:40
SupItsJ
Hi
17:40
Can we call or is text preferred
17:42
Little_Mouse
Text
17:42
SupItsJ
Hmm ok it’s a lot
17:43
I’ve know t.me/robinsonporter for 3 years from stake he is known as many names
17:44
I’m the fourth player under his campaign on shuffle because he paid me to after asking him to help based on my previous success and programming skills to team up on shuffle with his efforts.
17:45
He is like the left hand man with cam Brett and Noah. He has screwed me behind my back this entire time and not ever received a single share. He also has started stealing my ideas with the use of telegram automation rather than just paying or partnering with me like he’s promised
17:45
This has of course bled over to others like 15 people accused him of fraudulent representation and just shitty things like removing players from affiliates through a wide array of dirty tricks
17:46
My first player was the owner of Nexo exchange and I should have made more than 30 to 100k alone from this single player
17:46
Monthly
17:46
Little_Mouse
Hey
17:46
SupItsJ
Noah 22.07.2024 00:56:46
- you've claimed $7,961.19 USD from wager share
- your NGR from March 9th onwards is $160,233.93 USD, admin fee to cover provider costs is usually 20% but I'll halve it for the delay, so campaign NGR is $144,210.53
- 25% share is $36,052.63 USD

Total owing is $28,091.44 USD
17:46
Noah 22.07.2024 00:57:11
Note that I'm only doing this because the line is slightly blurry, and I can see where you're coming from - we would not usually bounce between the two after the fact
17:47
SupItsJ
Noah admitted and paid me partially after pretending to be rich and defending myself
17:47
Little_Mouse
I have nothing to do with this
17:47
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fake noah 😂
17:48
SupItsJ
I understand but you should have all of the facts my friend before jumping to their defense as I work very hard to get by in life after I did time and got out with nothing 6 years ago for my involvement with the Silk Road
17:48
The last person I want to involve in my affairs is court systems or people like you. All due respect
17:49
I think everyone agrees unnecessarily bringing attention to industry is bad practice for everybody
17:50
Little_Mouse
Well, I dont know what you are talking about. I'm not interested as well.
17:50
SupItsJ
Fine then be uninterested on btc talk as well
17:51
Little_Mouse
Of course NO
17:51
I'll be there
17:51
SupItsJ
Obviously
17:51
Little_Mouse
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this
17:51
you skipped
17:51
SupItsJ
No it isn’t I have the convo and the txid
17:52
Little_Mouse
Then why I cant access this account? I have chat with real noah.
17:52
SupItsJ
6d36734db850fb9a52b2eb8fef8e1f16972f829f3c1820e119fb21a3e99e93b3
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He hides his account with a permission for premium users
17:53
Little_Mouse
Really?
17:53
SupItsJ
Yes
17:53
Or he did at the time it was forwarded
17:53
Little_Mouse
I'm premium user + I have been chatting with Noah for more than a year.
17:53
SupItsJ
Ok forward a message
17:54
Little_Mouse
I have real Noah message
17:54
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No way
17:54
I got you sir
17:54
SupItsJ
t.me/noahdummett
17:54
The account I used it’s on my Mac I will show you it’s upstairs
17:57
SupItsJ
Cermin 21.10.2024 16:22:03

mo wd buat makan2 pas anak bontot ultah wkkwkw gagal gara2 si tolol shuffle wkwkkw
17:57
SupItsJ
hmmm ....
17:58
SupItsJ
Cermin 21.10.2024 16:21:06
dah cape aku chat support ktnya cek cek manual kalo dah update tar dikabarin
18:01
SupItsJ
Cermin 21.10.2024 16:10:49
si janin keknya kena juga 30 hari wkwkwkw.. ada juga bule di grupnya si vived kena jug 30 hari di shuffle
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October 22, 2024, 06:11:57 PM
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Can you please provide the chatlog above in screenshot? Not saying I am doubting you, but it'll give a better credibility. And while we're at it, please also add supporting evidence of those 100 attempts [perhaps will be better if you didn't provide all of them as it'll flood the thread, just a couple is enough] to reach them, and other supporting evidence that you can think of.

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October 22, 2024, 07:25:46 PM
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Can you please provide the chatlog above in screenshot? Not saying I am doubting you, but it'll give a better credibility. And while we're at it, please also add supporting evidence of those 100 attempts [perhaps will be better if you didn't provide all of them as it'll flood the thread, just a couple is enough] to reach them, and other supporting evidence that you can think of.

Noah:
- https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/e2vhldil3ngylih1kbryz/7-21-2024-Noah-X-Brignac.zip?rlkey=vb62u6uoccvuy1ttaml77j9ls&st=mxl9y2lp&dl=0

LT_Mouse:
- https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/mrn98w1vxt6yrv19d6oj3/LT-Mouse.zip?rlkey=ylr8qlt86738gq2rlpsn0dltk&st=4znn88uu&dl=0

Evidence of misled Payouts:
- https://imgur.com/a/t74y4G9

This is at this point Feb 3, 2024 > July 21, 2024. But the problems actually go back further with porterRobinson's disparagement leading up to this and misrepresentations.

My 100 days of Shuffling to the soup kitchens:
- https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wQ8y2vu4giEa3tPzvlcojdBjScO41tID7NTYTeAi5fY/edit?gid=1133806490#gid=1133806490
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October 23, 2024, 05:27:11 PM
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https://www.linkedin.com/posts/supitsj_lets-talk-about-shady-business-for-a-moment-activity-7254903312263610372-MzfF?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop

ICYMI:
https://imgur.com/a/t74y4G9

lets talk about shady business for a moment. straight from an operators own blog post you can see that their own formula doesnt even compute the same as what they display and lets not forget that these are the theoretical minimum rates which are actually impossible replicate the results being shown in the amounts generated. shame on you Shuffle

1,267,000 * .01 * .25 / 2 = 1583.75 where did you get less than half a percentage in house edge from HuhHuh

try this instead:
1,267,000 * .01 * .1 / 2 = 633.5

blatantly scamming everybody, and it was totally obvious the second you confront them after asking by their unwillingness to even communicate further with you and blocking you. where is noah or any representative from shuffle who will answer very simple questions without telling people about my personal life or dismissing their dishonesty with my reaction after a year of putting up with their bs. they are still here posting but ignoring this post/thread why?
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October 25, 2024, 06:02:09 PM
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 Huh Huh Huh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql7W-0wMixY

Anybody want to see a predatory pattern of abuse?

Please don’t take my word for it but also the "unfounded" dozen or more accusations on this site which makes someone really question if you are being bribed to conceal bad reputations of shuffle. How isn’t this in your scope?
Bitcointalk Users: (ps i got sick after 37 scam reports)
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5505158
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5514137
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5507469

X.com:
- https://x.com/spadeallin/status/1848396994869375393?s=46
- https://x.com/bustamachine/status/1837286504453837120?s=46

Reddit Users:
- https://www.reddit.com/r/ShufflecomCasino/s/QD5y1nBEJU
- https://www.reddit.com/r/ShufflecomCasino/s/PKa9SZqP11
- https://www.reddit.com/r/ShufflecomCasino/s/yVf3RJ9If1

Trust Pilot:
- https://trstp.lt/rLcvRP-uEr
https://www.trustpilot.com/users/5f55251e192f4623d70c5cbb
https://www.trustpilot.com/users/670d3caedc6971a754650643
https://www.trustpilot.com/users/6295ab9998141c0011f2513e
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https://www.trustpilot.com/users/66f2b1f8c19b2b3cc139599b
https://www.trustpilot.com/users/671899ac3c3e5ccfcf087345

Casino Guru - More than 20 on this site:
- https://casino.guru/profile/381708/downiemarc
- https://casino.guru/profile/382315/ceronterino100
- https://casino.guru/profile/410182/rabuske2002
- https://casino.guru/profile/279555/supitsj
- https://casino.guru/profile/539269/nightmare1986
- https://casino.guru/profile/526509/mi.min.mi
- https://casino.guru/profile/534663/tongkouyufu01
- https://casino.guru/profile/539251/rikki
- https://casino.guru/profile/542338/mezya777
- https://casino.guru/shuffle-casino-player-s-withdrawal-is-delayed-due-1
- https://casino.guru/shuffle-casino-player-s-withdrawal-is-delayed-due
- https://casino.guru/shuffle-casino-player-s-account-has-been-closed-and
- https://casino.guru/shuffle-casino-player-s-winnings-have-been-confiscated
- https://casino.guru/shuffle-casino-player-s-withdrawal-blocked-due-to
- https://casino.guru/shuffle-casino-player-is-unable-to-log-into-account
- https://casino.guru/shuffle-casino-player-s-access-to-support-blocked
- https://casino.guru/shuffle-casino-player-s-withdrawal-delayed-due-to
- https://casino.guru/shuffle-casino-player-s-account-suspended-over-alleged
- https://casino.guru/shuffle-casino-player-s-withdrawals-blocked-over-multiple
- https://casino.guru/shuffle-casino-player-is-requesting-a-refund-for-significant
- https://casino.guru/shuffle-casino-player-disputes-account-lockout-due























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October 30, 2024, 09:15:44 AM
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You clearly do not want to let go of your issue against Shuffle therefore you posted the links. I checked some of them to understand what happened with regards to outcomes but it seems anything related to sports betting will not be investigated by Casino Guru. In at least two of the cases the accusers did not report back with evidence therefore the cases were closed.

Do you have any evidence of actual wrongdoing? If not, maybe you should stop posting about them.


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You clearly do not want to let go of your issue against Shuffle therefore you posted the links. I checked some of them to understand what happened with regards to outcomes but it seems anything related to sports betting will not be investigated by Casino Guru. In at least two of the cases the accusers did not report back with evidence therefore the cases were closed.

Do you have any evidence of actual wrongdoing? If not, maybe you should stop posting about them.


I have provided this. Did you miss the part where i was partially paid after having to pretend to be somebody else, but using the same language of frustration where Noah admits "lines are grey" and this is putting it mildly after more than 6 months of bitter anger building up to reach. Now its been another 3 since this only there are more damages now since my accounts were closed for "threats" that I never made.

Wrongdoing List of Accusations:
- Wrongful closure of accounts.
- Unpaid affiliates literally in the millions of dollars in commissions.
- Killing affiliates.
- Slander (saying i threatened him conviniently leaving out the parts☝️).
- Lying (see above).
- Unfair and Dishonest/Bad Faith Business along with deceptive marketing.
- Trashy support staff whom get their trashy behavior from someone running the show.

Never had a problem with a partner where they complained about me making them millions until now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3vYr38dWmk

In February I reached out following being misled by their very close friend PorterRobinson, who also has a very long list of scam victims, and was told I could have the same terms of my partnership with stake based on my reach and player intelligence I have through my other business StakeReloadXS.

This never happened, however my first sign up just happens to be the owner of Nexo exchange, and since I promised him things I never could deliver due to shuffle not living up to their contractual obligations has not only cost me his commissions following his shared frustration but believing I was lying to him (thank you cam and porter for this part), but I have found probably 8 or more high value players they moved or never credited to me in addition to this.

The total losses are quite hard to guage however, it is a lot. Since most of my first 6 weeks was where most of my earnings were never counted, but when noah paid me partially he did not even count this period. Which I wont argue when somebody is ready to pay me I will graciously accept a payment towards any debt which they admit to owing.
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October 31, 2024, 07:14:23 AM
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I am not aware of the full circumstances therefore am not in a position to state this categorically but if we go by the assumption everything you claim is correct what will you do next?

This is one of many crypto forums and/or crypto related news outlets, you have brought this information here and members will make up their own mind about whether to believe you or not but what is the next part of your plan? As I stated earlier, I am not stating whether in my opinion you are correct but the question I would like to ask is: are you contemplating legal action?

I have provided this. Did you miss the part where i was partially paid after having to pretend to be somebody else, but using the same language of frustration where Noah admits "lines are grey" and this is putting it mildly after more than 6 months of bitter anger building up to reach. Now its been another 3 since this only there are more damages now since my accounts were closed for "threats" that I never made.

Wrongdoing List of Accusations:
- Wrongful closure of accounts.
- Unpaid affiliates literally in the millions of dollars in commissions.
- Killing affiliates.
- Slander (saying i threatened him conviniently leaving out the parts☝️).
- Lying (see above).
- Unfair and Dishonest/Bad Faith Business along with deceptive marketing.
- Trashy support staff whom get their trashy behavior from someone running the show.

Never had a problem with a partner where they complained about me making them millions until now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3vYr38dWmk

In February I reached out following being misled by their very close friend PorterRobinson, who also has a very long list of scam victims, and was told I could have the same terms of my partnership with stake based on my reach and player intelligence I have through my other business StakeReloadXS.

This never happened, however my first sign up just happens to be the owner of Nexo exchange, and since I promised him things I never could deliver due to shuffle not living up to their contractual obligations has not only cost me his commissions following his shared frustration but believing I was lying to him (thank you cam and porter for this part), but I have found probably 8 or more high value players they moved or never credited to me in addition to this.

The total losses are quite hard to guage however, it is a lot. Since most of my first 6 weeks was where most of my earnings were never counted, but when noah paid me partially he did not even count this period. Which I wont argue when somebody is ready to pay me I will graciously accept a payment towards any debt which they admit to owing.

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November 02, 2024, 04:03:45 AM
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I am not aware of the full circumstances therefore am not in a position to state this categorically but if we go by the assumption everything you claim is correct what will you do next?

Great question and to be honest due to their license and vague terms which can change on the fly to suit their needs - which is purely greed - I am forced to only a handful of options since a regulatory body isn’t going to intervene.
1. Lawyers - as I have said I’m working with some representatives to bring action to them civilly or through ADR which they also make extremely difficult. I don’t want to have any legal involvement but I’m left with little or no alternative.
2. Actively making reports to the relevant law enforcement organizations with authority to prosecute for a whole list of criminal offenses that are going on with hacking and fraud proceeds etc in addition to misrepresentation being rampant. This is something very plausible that might get a recovery for the many victims of their all one needs to do is a simple search and will find them. It’s very bad for everybody who operates in this space to have unnecessary attention and scrutiny in our space. It isn’t something that I want.
3. The easiest of all would be for shuffle to stop acting like very clearly con artists that they are and amicably resolve this dispute and others like it since I know how angry and let down it has made me in addition to impacting my trust with other partners with this experience. It isn’t fair and I work very hard and strive for excellence which is the opposite of my experience working with shuffle.

This is one of many crypto forums and/or crypto related news outlets, you have brought this information here and members will make up their own mind about whether to believe you or not but what is the next part of your plan? As I stated earlier, I am not stating whether in my opinion you are correct but the question I would like to ask is: are you contemplating legal action?
Yep, what else can I do? Im all ears.

One thing I won’t do is allow them to go unnoticed while continuing to unjustly enrich themselves on the backs of others just like me.

One thing I will say is that I have heard of all the shady things that go on in this industry and this is by far the most egregious offender to date I’ve had misfortune of knowing. We as community of wholesome and honest businessmen should hold people accountable like this and get rid of bad apples so we don’t have to allow authorities to do a very bad job of it themselves. Part of this to me looks like banning this operator from having any sort of discussions on places like here promoting their brand until they clean up their act and repair their reputation through fixing the parts they got wrong.
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November 04, 2024, 12:14:20 AM
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Update:

I made sure I did not multi account as I know when something like this happened it could be an easy excuse to  ban me. BC did their due diligence and didn’t accuse me of multi, however that still bite me in the ass when they got me on “group gameplay”, the group they refer to are ppl i never met in real life, only chatted in forums and discord channels like EVERYONE here would normally do. By that definition, any of you guys that respond here is my potential groupie, specially if you ever profit.

I have been promoting/paying content producers around the web/stream/youtube to join with me promoting BCgame and get benefits not received anywhere. Isn’t that the point of giving out commissions? So your affiliate “partner” can spend it at their discretion and attract new customers? I would also assume it’s common sense when your promoting something the first place is among groups and ppl you are familiar with, and that’s where I posted my referral link. In a DISCORD channel that I’m member of, some of them joined. Talked about slots, shared strategies, some worked, some didn’t, wasted plenty of $$. Until we came across a strategy that’s actually pretty easy to find on the internet and pretty much the META nowadays in gambling and utilized in almost every major crypto casino. A wagering strategy!! Nothing new, nothing revolutionary, just math.

What I did was simply used everything BCgame offered to its maximum efficiency to win and taught my affiliates. Who doesn’t. If you say otherwise that you play just to lose then well you are every casino’s prized stallion.

It’s not my problem when I play a game and loss according to the house edge but all the rakeback/reload/deposit/weekly/monthly bonus given back to me ended up yielding over 98-115% of house edge. That’s the casino’s decision and who am I to question it. Bonuses are often offered as a loss leader in a competitive business. Especially when all of them are not optional, they are given to you. I have no say in the amount of weekly bonus, monthly bonus they will give, I have no say deposit bonus as it is automatically applied. Recharge/reload calculations are not disclosed anywhere. Those are unknown to me and can be changed at any time by them. (Spreadsheet available for math part)




In light of recent events I am directing users and staff here from shuffle, bcgame, goated, roobet, clash, empire case, stake and anywhere elsewhere. This is porterRobinson, and after looking through old conversations found it buried in his old discord that he deleted. Here is the official explanation from BC:
https://ibb.co/yW7ZXkK

And given the many accounts of his i have reported already and his continued scams across many providers I really wonder if shuffle or elsewhere know that he is up to no good with a VERY long history of scams and bs.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=post;topic=5514137.0
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