Iran - Israel War

[Vod]

lets see how long this cease fire lasts...
hopefully forever, hopefully iran signs upto some sort of peacedeal, and not make the biggest mistake of the century(to escalate/aggravate the situation in the middle east)

I don't think it will last long.

What happened?   The US utilized a good portion of their bunker busters and said "you want more of this??"

Iran did a calculated response to say "Tit for tat, we realize you are stronger right now"

So the ceasefire is up, as Iran cannot fight two wars at once.    I'm sure they recognize the days of a united United States response is limited, and they are just biding their time.  Iran is Atlantic, China is Pacific, and the president who vowed never to start wars will soon find himself out of assets.

[ruykeri]

lets see how long this cease fire lasts...
hopefully forever, hopefully iran signs upto some sort of peacedeal, and not make the biggest mistake of the century(to escalate/aggravate the situation in the middle east)

I don't think it will last long.

What happened?   The US utilized a good portion of their bunker busters and said "you want more of this??"

Iran did a calculated response to say "Tit for tat, we realize you are stronger right now"

So the ceasefire is up, as Iran cannot fight two wars at once.    I'm sure they recognize the days of a united United States response is limited, and they are just biding their time.  Iran is Atlantic, China is Pacific, and the president who vowed never to start wars will soon find himself out of assets.

If the USA wanted a ceasefire then why did they attack Iran? I feel like nothing is ending yet. Maybe both sides have started planning something else... This global politics will not stop so easily..If the USA could control Iran like they did, many analysts thought that the next target would be Russia. Therefore, such friendly countries of Iran would never want the USA to control all of Iran's military policies.

[hornetsnest]

lets see how long this cease fire lasts...
hopefully forever, hopefully iran signs upto some sort of peacedeal, and not make the biggest mistake of the century(to escalate/aggravate the situation in the middle east)

I don't think it will last long.

What happened?   The US utilized a good portion of their bunker busters and said "you want more of this??"

Iran did a calculated response to say "Tit for tat, we realize you are stronger right now"

So the ceasefire is up, as Iran cannot fight two wars at once.    I'm sure they recognize the days of a united United States response is limited, and they are just biding their time.  Iran is Atlantic, China is Pacific, and the president who vowed never to start wars will soon find himself out of assets.

If the USA wanted a ceasefire then why did they attack Iran?

Lets break it down barney style .....Trump is the daddy and daddy made the tough decision for the quarrelling kids who wanted to throw stones at each other and when one kid thought he would make a petrol bomb and throw it at the other kid, daddy said enough is enough and took away the can of petrol and told them to work things out without any petrol involved and once they shake hands and learn to act like adults he would help them fix up the yard and build them nice big treehouses.

All hail daddy Trump and lets piss on the warmongers who wanted to blow up the world. Daddy Trump gonna make us all rich. Even the ayatollah gonna be drivin the lambo with the top down when daddy gets this shit rollin. Daddy can be president for life once he pamps the shit outta all our corn and we become cryptocorn ballers. Stop yer whining and get in the car because daddys at the wheel now and we all headin down to the club big stylz

[peacepreacher]

Do you think it is possible to have some Iran Christian & Persians Pagans/old religions revolt against current regime, when some of the facilities are damaged and there is chaos initiated ?

Openly leave Islam as most of the nation 51% and go back to more sustainable religions ?
 

[suchmoon]

Christian ... sustainable religions

Is "sustainable" here referring to how "christians" used to "sustain" nonbelievers by the neck?

Great idea to replace one religious fuckwittery with another less popular religious fuckwittery, that'll fix things in a jiffy.

[coolcoinz]

So the ceasefire is up, as Iran cannot fight two wars at once.    I'm sure they recognize the days of a united United States response is limited, and they are just biding their time.  Iran is Atlantic, China is Pacific, and the president who vowed never to start wars will soon find himself out of assets.

They cannot, but they can die and go to heaven to meet their promised virgins

Jokes aside, they will look for allies and they will find them. Next time US strikes there will most likely be foreign weapons protecting Iranian skies. Maybe Chinese, maybe Indian, maybe Russian and North Korean...

Iran got delayed, but not stopped. Sooner or later they will be back at it, pretty much like Germany crippled after the WW1 came back stronger 20 years later.

[BADecker]

Christian ... sustainable religions

Is "sustainable" here referring to how "christians" used to "sustain" nonbelievers by the neck?

Great idea to replace one religious fuckwittery with another less popular religious fuckwittery, that'll fix things in a jiffy.

Your religion will die with you, except if you change it first.

The people of Ancient Israel have been fighting the Persians for as long as 3,000 years. But because neither nation realizes the truth, it's all for nothing. That won't stop it, however.

[OgNasty]

Trump wasn’t too happy about the breaking of the ceasefire. He’s now scolding the countries like little children. Let us hope he doesn’t have to hand out any more spankings.

I can’t say I recall seeing a President use the F word before. After years of seeing the country be defended by men in dresses, this is a nice change.

[silpersurfer]

lets see how long this cease fire lasts...
hopefully forever, hopefully iran signs upto some sort of peacedeal, and not make the biggest mistake of the century(to escalate/aggravate the situation in the middle east)

I don't think it will last long.

What happened?   The US utilized a good portion of their bunker busters and said "you want more of this??"

Iran did a calculated response to say "Tit for tat, we realize you are stronger right now"

So the ceasefire is up, as Iran cannot fight two wars at once.    I'm sure they recognize the days of a united United States response is limited, and they are just biding their time.  Iran is Atlantic, China is Pacific, and the president who vowed never to start wars will soon find himself out of assets.

Trump wants peace, but what I can't understand is why they attacked Iran. Israel is the one who started this war, so it should be Israel who should be stopped, not Iran.

Trump claims to be a hero of peace, but in reality what he did only made the situation worse, which made Iran close the door tightly to taking the diplomatic route. And most recently Iran after the attack carried out by the US, in just a few moments Iran immediately attacked the US military base in Qatar. Indeed, the attack was not fatal, but the attack showed that they would never give up even though their opponent was the United States. In addition, in reality what Trump did was criticized by various parties and even from his own people.

[Juse14]

Do you think it is possible to have some Iran Christian & Persians Pagans/old religions revolt against current regime, when some of the facilities are damaged and there is chaos initiated ?

Openly leave Islam as most of the nation 51% and go back to more sustainable religions ?
 

Nowadays, many people associate the war between Israel and Iran with religious issues. However, from what I see, what triggered this war was not a religious issue, but rather was triggered by political interests and the struggle for regional influence. However, it is very unfortunate that at this time many people are trying to use religion to inflame the emotions of the people. And even though this conflict is colored by a religious narrative, it is not between Christians and Muslims, but rather Islam and Jews.

[franky1]

Trump wants peace, but what I can't understand is why they attacked Iran. Israel is the one who started this war, so it should be Israel who should be stopped, not Iran.

Trump claims to be a hero of peace, but in reality what he did only made the situation worse, which made Iran close the door tightly to taking the diplomatic route. And most recently Iran after the attack carried out by the US, in just a few moments Iran immediately attacked the US military base in Qatar. Indeed, the attack was not fatal, but the attack showed that they would never give up even though their opponent was the United States. In addition, in reality what Trump did was criticized by various parties and even from his own people.

isreal is not the ones shouting for wanting genocide

iran wants to nuke isreal and the US

also it was iran that funded its proxies to do the attacks on oct 7th 2023
and since that date houthi(iran proxy) & hamas(iran proxy) have been constantly fighting, looting, and attacking isreali's
if the houthi and hamas were not invoved. the palestinians would be fed and prospering.. but iran doesnt want peace and co-existance

hamas(iran proxy) want to depopulate isreal so they can expand palestine(gaza) into bigger territory and call isreal 'palestine'

houthi and hamas have destroyed aid shipments supplied by UN/isreal/US/eqypt which was destined for innocent palestinians.
the aid that does get in, gets looted before it reaches aid stations
..but then the hamas try to say that its isreal thats starving innocent palestinians by not sending even more supplies

many aid missions were stopped or suspended due to the risk of harm to the aid volunteers.. isreal restarted shipments of aid this spring but with military guard, and when the aid trucks get ambushed, hamas again treat it as isreal being the cause of the chaos created due to the ambush

iran recently (weeks ago) declared they dont want to re-sign into any peace deal (they dont want to be part of the NPT)
they declined attending meetings. they then raised further terror threats by mentioning they have capability to make nukes and they want to have nukes and possibly use nukes..

this then escalated when iran struck a US embassy which in legal terms is a declaration of war on the US. and so the US had the legal right to intervene directly.
the US and Isreal set targets to disable the nuclear research and capability.. whilst iran were just randomly striking civilian locations

[tvbcof]

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You should sue your rabbi to get your foreskin back, that would be the jewish thing to jew.

I would, but I am complete, something you never will be, because some caveman story did not fool my parents.
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/baby-dies-herpes-virus-ritual-circumcision-nyc-orthodox/story?id=15888618

The chosenites probably did realize that they could be marked and excluded/torched by having their genitals mutilated and eventually managed to convince most of their herd of American goy to do the same thing by buying off 'Christian' preachers, having their 'medical experts' teach their bullshit about 'penis cancer', and so on.  Kinda reached peak mutilation my gen-x time, but my dad was having none of it, thank God.  Now I don't have to buy their big pharma boner pills and what-not just to be able to get it up.  Thanks Dad!

But yeah, between having some scary old herped-to-the-max creep chewing half your dick off as an infant, going to some kooky yeshiva to dry-hump the shekinah while you study about your chosenness, etc, etc, it's really not terribly surprising that we get freaks like frankist1 on these boards.  And 80% of the Israeli population thinking it is A-OK to genocide the Palastinians, with 50% of them thinking it is OK to do it by simply murdering them in cold blood.

I must sadly concede that these current Israelians, and people who were damaged in the same manner in many of the Jewish enclaves 'scattered among the nations', are largely beyond any realistic hope.  Physical 'Israel' _must_ survive in order that these Chosen-by-Satanites have a place to be where they pose less of a threat to normal people.  Gotta get the nukes out of their hands first though.

[betterthanSNnBTC]

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You should sue your rabbi to get your foreskin back, that would be the jewish thing to jew.

I would, but I am complete, something you never will be, because some caveman story did not fool my parents.
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/baby-dies-herpes-virus-ritual-circumcision-nyc-orthodox/story?id=15888618

The chosenites probably did realize that they could be marked and excluded/torched by having their genitals mutilated and eventually managed to convince most of their herd of American goy to do the same thing by buying off 'Christian' preachers, having their 'medical experts' teach their bullshit about 'penis cancer', and so on.  Kinda reached peak mutilation my gen-x time, but my dad was having none of it, thank God.  Now I don't have to buy their big pharma boner pills and what-not just to be able to get it up.  Thanks Dad!

But yeah, between having some scary old herped-to-the-max creep chewing half your dick off as an infant, going to some kooky yeshiva to dry-hump the shekinah while you study about your chosenness, etc, etc, it's really not terribly surprising that we get freaks like frankist1 on these boards.  And 80% of the Israeli population thinking it is A-OK to genocide the Palastinians, with 50% of them thinking it is OK to do it by simply murdering them in cold blood.

I must sadly concede that these current Israelians, and people who were damaged in the same manner in many of the Jewish enclaves 'scattered among the nations', are largely beyond any realistic hope.  Physical 'Israel' _must_ survive in order that these Chosen-by-Satanites have a place to be where they pose less of a threat to normal people.  Gotta get the nukes out of their hands first though.

They did it to blend in, H put anyone cut on trains.

But they willingly uploaded their DNA sequence and it is game over now.

[DaRude]

lets see how long this cease fire lasts...
hopefully forever, hopefully iran signs upto some sort of peacedeal, and not make the biggest mistake of the century(to escalate/aggravate the situation in the middle east)

I don't think it will last long.

What happened?   The US utilized a good portion of their bunker busters and said "you want more of this??"

Iran did a calculated response to say "Tit for tat, we realize you are stronger right now"

So the ceasefire is up, as Iran cannot fight two wars at once.    I'm sure they recognize the days of a united United States response is limited, and they are just biding their time.  Iran is Atlantic, China is Pacific, and the president who vowed never to start wars will soon find himself out of assets.

If the USA wanted a ceasefire then why did they attack Iran?

Lets break it down barney style .....Trump is the daddy and daddy made the tough decision for the quarrelling kids who wanted to throw stones at each other and when one kid thought he would make a petrol bomb and throw it at the other kid, daddy said enough is enough and took away the can of petrol and told them to work things out without any petrol involved and once they shake hands and learn to act like adults he would help them fix up the yard and build them nice big treehouses.

All hail daddy Trump and lets piss on the warmongers who wanted to blow up the world. Daddy Trump gonna make us all rich. Even the ayatollah gonna be drivin the lambo with the top down when daddy gets this shit rollin. Daddy can be president for life once he pamps the shit outta all our corn and we become cryptocorn ballers. Stop yer whining and get in the car because daddys at the wheel now and we all headin down to the club big stylz

Only the other kid already had a petrol bomb, and killed exponentially more of first kids brothers and little sisters.

Trump wants peace, but what I can't understand is why they attacked Iran. Israel is the one who started this war, so it should be Israel who should be stopped, not Iran.

Trump claims to be a hero of peace, but in reality what he did only made the situation worse, which made Iran close the door tightly to taking the diplomatic route. And most recently Iran after the attack carried out by the US, in just a few moments Iran immediately attacked the US military base in Qatar. Indeed, the attack was not fatal, but the attack showed that they would never give up even though their opponent was the United States. In addition, in reality what Trump did was criticized by various parties and even from his own people.

isreal is not the ones shouting for wanting genocide

iran wants to nuke isreal and the US

also it was iran that funded its proxies to do the attacks on oct 7th 2023
and since that date houthi(iran proxy) & hamas(iran proxy) have been constantly fighting, looting, and attacking isreali's
if the houthi and hamas were not invoved. the palestinians would be fed and prospering.. but iran doesnt want peace and co-existance

hamas(iran proxy) want to depopulate isreal so they can expand palestine(gaza) into bigger territory and call isreal 'palestine'

houthi and hamas have destroyed aid shipments supplied by UN/isreal/US/eqypt which was destined for innocent palestinians.
the aid that does get in, gets looted before it reaches aid stations
..but then the hamas try to say that its isreal thats starving innocent palestinians by not sending even more supplies

many aid missions were stopped or suspended due to the risk of harm to the aid volunteers.. isreal restarted shipments of aid this spring but with military guard, and when the aid trucks get ambushed, hamas again treat it as isreal being the cause of the chaos created due to the ambush

iran recently (weeks ago) declared they dont want to re-sign into any peace deal (they dont want to be part of the NPT)
they declined attending meetings. they then raised further terror threats by mentioning they have capability to make nukes and they want to have nukes and possibly use nukes..

this then escalated when iran struck a US embassy which in legal terms is a declaration of war on the US. and so the US had the legal right to intervene directly.
the US and Isreal set targets to disable the nuclear research and capability.. whilst iran were just randomly striking civilian locations

I guess neither is good, but what's worse, shouting for wanting genocide or actually committing genocide while pretending that you're not?  

A genocide is unfolding before our eyes: History will not forgive our inaction, UN Special Committee warns General Assembly 4th Committee report

UN Special Committee finds Israel’s warfare methods in Gaza consistent with genocide, including use of starvation as weapon of war

There are "reasonable grounds" to believe that Israel is committing genocide against Palestinians in Gaza, the UN Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in the Occupied Palestinian Territories said on Tuesday.