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Author Topic: I'm bored, let's debunk another martingale gambling strategy! New experiment 🏇!  (Read 577 times)
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July 26, 2025, 12:50:15 AM
Last edit: July 26, 2025, 01:22:51 AM by stompix
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Sunday

Bellasio / Gore Point / Nap Hand 8/11
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Glen To Glen / Finest View / Chillhi /My Girl Katie / Diego Velazquez 11/8 *won by a neck, almost thought is another loss
Sassified / Obsessedwithyou /Light As Air 1/2
Day 29: 12 bets, $4 Profit


Monday

Thesecretadversary/  Jannas Journey 11/10
Emiyn / Fairlawn Flyer / Sophiesticate / Bucaneer's Spirit 11/8
Come On Eibhlin 8/15
Victor Cee / Mukhtalif / Mysteryofthesands 11/10
Day 30: 10 bets, $4 Profit  

Tuesday

Gran Descans 1/5
Proud Nation / Made Al / Speed Of Maajid /Spick And Span 5/6
Elvetham / Sunny South West / Calafiori / Chance Another One 6/4
Day 31: 9 bets, $3 Profit  

Wednesday

Tailgunner Joe 11/8
You Oughta Know / Assiri Heights / Magic Box 1/1
Lope El Fuego / Moutai / Nouvotic 6/4
Bosphorus Rose 6/4
Crocodile Power / Cactus / Flash Of Fire 8/11
Havana Anna 6/4
U S S Charleston / Sky Majesty 11/10
Day 32: 14 bets, $7 Profit  

Thursday

Dexter / Commander's Intent 6/5
Publish 4/7
Scintillante / Aslukgoes 10/11
The Cursor 6/5
Pendragon / Sixty Plus 8/15
Mummy Derry / Montreal / Gordon Grey 4/7
Darkwing / Composing 4/9
Day 33: 13 bets, $7 Profit  

Friday

Wheresmemoneygone / Many Men 5/4
Diesel Line 11/10
Pinhole 1/1
Love Me Tender 1/3
Irish Dancer 11/8
Little Lady Rock / Kansas / Dubai Time 6/5
Killavia 2/9
Magic Stone / Amakhala Warrior 6/4
Washington Street / Roach Power 5/4
Mojave River 4/6
Day 34: 15 bets, $10 Profit  

Total 422 bets, max bet $80, $130 max bankroll needed,  $170.77 profit

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July 26, 2025, 01:06:49 PM
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Hmmmm... I recalculated twice and the bookmaker's margin here is not small at all - almost 24%!  Shocked
After football and tennis, I find it hard to perceive such figures. Although in fact, it is very logical and fits into the pattern where the higher the volatility, the higher the bookmaker's margin.
Yeah. Sportsbet.io margins on several sports markets are ridiculous and laughable frankly speaking. Only some of their sports markets like soccer have low margins baked into them since that sport is their priority.

I tend to find way better odds with way lower juice on almost all sports markets in betting exchanges(Via betting brokers) and Pinnacle. Polymarket provides epic odds too upto a certain liquidity.

The problem with all betting exchanges is low liquidity. It's probably not a problem to place a $5 bet there (and only on popular markets), but larger amounts will be problematic. But as an additional option for diversification/hedging they are of course good, at the moment I prefer convenience, but when I have time I might get to know them in practice.

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Total 422 bets, max bet $80, $130 max bankroll needed,  $170.77 profit

Nice! If you calculate the bonuses from the wager, the results of the experiment are already becoming pleasant. And anomalous if you think about the mathematical expectation  Cheesy

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July 27, 2025, 04:37:57 AM
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The problem with all betting exchanges is low liquidity. It's probably not a problem to place a $5 bet there (and only on popular markets), but larger amounts will be problematic.

Depends on what events you choose.
Major ones in football, basketball have enough liquidity for anything, even for smaller events, especially tennis.
For horse racing, especially lower-level grade 4-5 races, exchanges are a no-go; I've seen races starting with less than 100 euros matched on the board.

And anomalous if you think about the mathematical expectation  Cheesy

I think the results are biased by the fact that bookies would have to get a lot of things wrong continuously. I checked back and there were 6 chains of 5 wins versus 2 of 5 losses. I'm genuinely curious how the statistics will change once the jumping season starts in two months, results there are far more unpredictable than flat racing.

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July 27, 2025, 04:55:50 AM
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I wish I had the same balls as you. Cheesy

Doing a martingale strategy on bets within just around (only) at 2.5, and should be as consistent as possible, is already tough work to start with.

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July 27, 2025, 05:43:41 AM
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I like to answer these questions even before I check your results.

- Loss or profit?  Grin
As you might have already known, martingale doesn't change the outcome, it will still be a function of your good prediction and luck. Martingale is only a means to increase the pains of your loss or the joy of your winning. I can only wish you good luck in this quest.

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Never!!! Because you are lucky in it doesn't mean others would. The result of betting and martingale will always vary in a random fashion.

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July 29, 2025, 09:41:27 AM
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Never!!! Because you are lucky in it doesn't mean others would. The result of betting and martingale will always vary in a random fashion.

How would your bets yield different results than mine?  Shocked
There is nothing random in this, anyone following this strategy will get the same results. When a horse wins, it wins for everybody when it loses it does so for everyone. This is not coin tossing when one gets heads and one tails in the same round.

Tiny update with no copy-pasting the whole thing
- No 5 chains lost either this weekend
- very slow days, so little racing that it was boring (Sunday had only 2 tracks)
- also a reminder, this experiment runs on an available chain of 5 races, so if there are only 3 favorites left I don't take a bet at all, that's why on Sunday I only had 1 bet (at least it won).



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July 29, 2025, 01:06:58 PM
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The problem with all betting exchanges is low liquidity. It's probably not a problem to place a $5 bet there (and only on popular markets), but larger amounts will be problematic. But as an additional option for diversification/hedging they are of course good, at the moment I prefer convenience, but when I have time I might get to know them in practice.
This is incorrect. As @stompix himself mentioned, the liquidity depends on the particular sport itself. I tend to find liquidities of around thousands and more regularly in cricket, football, tennis etc markets.

On the other hand, some markets such as horse racing etc have extremely low liquidities making them useless to bet on.

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August 03, 2025, 11:35:47 AM
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So, weekly update and I made of mess of it, had to recover two sheets cause I uploaded one after the other

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Day 35: 10 bets, $7 Profit  

Sunday
Dignam 2/9
Day 36: 1 bets, $1 Profit  
Yup only one horse bet as there were no 5 chains after it!

Monday:
Fizzy Cristal/ Half Sovereign 11/10
String Of Pearls 4/6
Jannas Journey 8/13
Crown Of Oaks 1/1
Hinitsa Bay / Davy Crockett  1/2
Jax Edge / Special Dividend 5/4
Hilitany 6/4
Constitution River 1/5
Day 37: 11 bets, $8 Profit  

Tuesday
Ancient Egypt 8/11
Naval Light /  U Turn 1/1
My Great Mate /  Al Shaham  2/5
Amelia Earhart / Dublin Bay 8/5
Cabeza De Llave / Collecting Coin 6/5
Zilfee 4/5
Day 38: 10 bets, $6 Profit  

Wednesday
Lady Iman 11/8
Circios 1/8
Field Of Gold / Hipop De Loire 4/9
Awaken 1/12
Earthwatch 1/1

Now the drama:
Aspull 8/11 - Sujet 1/1 - Spectacular Style 6/4 - Valiancy 5/6 - Versailles Prince 6/5 Loss!
1.3+2.3+3+8+13 > 27.6!
Day 39: 10 bets, $-22.6 Loss  

Moving odds to 2 for 11 wins!

Thursday
Merchant 6/5
Whirl 6/5
Fiery Lucy/ Dancingintherain / Which Wolf Wins 5/4
Chillhi / His Finest Hour / Hengroin 8/11
King's Castle / Revelance 8/11
Day 40: 10 bets, $10 Profit  

Friday
Balqaa / Byblos 3/10
Advertised 10/11
Beckford's Folly 2/9
I Can Imagine / Blooming Legend 6/4
Moe's Legacy 6/5
Neptune Legend 6/4
Day 41: 8 bets, $12 Profit  

Loss recovered, switching back to $1 and I need to recover the Saturday sheet!

Total 482 bets, max bet $80, $130 max bankroll needed,  $194.17 profit!



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