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August 30, 2025, 04:36:18 AM
Last edit: August 30, 2025, 05:46:34 AM by ChiBitCTy
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Can anyone confirm if Tim stated that he kept the PKs of all the Titans in a security safe? If so, I think this is very serious and everyone should peel their coins. If anyone knows whether this is true, please confirm and share.

On page 17 of the OG thread there’s discussion about how with the 2FAs his website would show coins funded, but go to block explorer or whatever type in pub key and you can see he moved coins. “Quite RealHummer - everyone shoukd check blockchain as it looks like a bunch was moved on 11-15-22 all to the same addy”.

In OG thread I can’t seem to view all pages on mobile. I got on the thread on a desktop but am logged out (w out my login info atm), don’t see view all threads again , or perhaps is cuz it’s locked or too many pages or whatever the fck but if you know how type in “bank vault” im pretty damn sure I’ve got screen shots of his website where he talked about having keys in a vault. I know for a fact this was said somewhere and i mentioned in the thread somewhere..can’t remember if he specified having done so for just 2FA or all coins.  But I would ask, does it even matter ? He’s a scamming piece of shit regardless … sorry too busy atm to go page by page searching for key words. If you or no one else does in next few days I will when I can

Tons of typos I’m sure ^ apologize , busted this out quickly

Edit : “ Jordan on August 30, 2015 at 6:42 am
I bought some more Titan coins to give away as gifts and asked them about BIP38. Their president answered my email (albeit like 3 days later) and explained that because the coins are resold, encrypting the private key means that they can’t guarantee the value of the coin anymore. If the encryption password is lost, or if the seller doesn’t give it to the buyer, the bitcoin is never transferred. Honestly, after reading up on it, BIP38 seems like its good for personal paper wallets, but its the wrong thing for physical coins. I wouldn’t have investigated though if it wasn’t for your reply, so thank you.

I did ask about the “Recommending 2-factor” thing too. He said that people that don’t know about bitcoin yet often screw things up, like peeling off the hologram and throwing away the private key for example. If you don’t know what a private key is, then the 2-factor coin is “recommended” because you might lose the bitcoin value out of ignorance. I guess this has happened to people? Anyway, that’s not for me as I prefer unencrypted private keys.

I would suggest you get rid of the SCAM label for this company. They’ve been super cool and they’re phone number and address is on the packing slip when you buy stuff from them. It’s your website of course,

but these guys are not scamming.” https://benvanbitcoin.wordpress.com/2014/04/17/scam-titan-bitcoin/

I’ve never once heard of anyone even coming close to peeling a coin and throwing away the key / holo- Tim planned this from the get go. If this doesn’t click for people that that’s the case , seek cognitive impairment help - every Titan coin should have been peeled long ago. What if Tim kept all keys in the vault and not just 2FA “well if he had regular PK coin keys he’d have peeled those long ago” flawed logic. His 2FA is clearly a scam but there’s shreds of plausible deniability that could keep his fines and or jail time down. He slowly played this game for years “oh website is just down it’ll be up again soon” likely paid off a feel coin holders to keep them quite , and I believe did have his website redemption available on and off but Jesus Christ at this point is all so muddled I can’t remember nor honestly care as it’s Irrelevant from my viewpoint.  Now I ask... Let’s say Tim moves Dubai or the British Virgin Islands , stole all coins as he had saved all keys , wtf is anyone going to be able to do about it? NOTHING…eventually statue of limitations kicks in and he comes back home.  Sounds like a wild story that’ll never happen right ..Rob , blockchain mint/cold storage coins and 1k other company names under his tutelage did just this. He moved to Singapore to scam from there and avoid legal issues. Moved back , right after Singapore struck a deal w the U.S. to allow extradition.

Here I am bn a parrot again in hopes one person might wake the f up who hasn’t.

Side note rant - This is why IMO no one should buy the new Satori coins that force funding (sizable amount) and there’s some sorta 2FA involved/ pdf/ website involvement needed to redeem, in at least one of the versions. Either way Moto is running this release very oddly considering he’s been such a strong smart advocate of btc for so many years and understands the collectible space very well.. then goes and makes shit like their upcoming drop , and tho STILL no official sale price, all talks of what it’s “likely to be around from sources in the know “ is ridiculously high.

I know this is all wild to hear from me , first time expressing concerns over blatant ignoring of sound educated advice. I’ve def become a grumpy asshole so f me and my two Satoshis but I’m far from alone here .. MinerJones has been echoing the same for years now too.

 Forced funding and any sort of 2FA is beyond damaging to the hobby and things are getting worse.which is beyond obvious at this pt, so if you still like the hobby, don’t support this kinda bs. Make cool DIY collectibles. Give the option to generate keys fine, but don’t load if you’re a maker.

I could go on and on, I swear, but end rant (sarcasm) .. I just spent a bunch of time I just said I didn’t have cuz I care , not to upset anyone or hurt the hobby.
  

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August 30, 2025, 05:29:56 AM
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Here's my theory and I'm betting it's spot-on - These fuckin knobs lost and/or corrupted the fck out of their internal database(s) holding all (Or parts)? of the info necessary to redeem their own f'ckn coins, and now know they are fucked and are either paying some HUGE firm to even try to restore it or, (more likely) they've already tried and failed. Roll Eyes

Having worked in data storage a large part of my life, I know that when you don't' get any answers to why your data is "lost" or "gone", well the simple answer is usually that really the data is gone/lost, and that's why you don't get any answers...  I've had to do it myself in fact on boss's orders until people just gave up, but it wasn't millions of dollars of BTC, it was fuckin' documents or bullshit lol ...  Huh Cry

That's my guess as well, however the post below is what gives me a bit of pause.  If he truly kept the private keys stored in a bank vault, then he should be able to access the funds to redeem them correct?  Is it possible he took those funds and spent them..can you even tell if these 2FA coins even have bitcoin stored on them?(I embarrassingly forget this answer).



Someone needs to take this scumbag to court already.  He has locked up millions of dollars.  There's multiple people who've got hundreds of thousands of dollars locked up.  What burns my ass even more is all the people whom own these but don't yet realize that they are non-redeemable. 

Tim..you're a scumbag, and I personally believe there's more to this than just you being a moron and losing access to your systems.

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August 30, 2025, 01:14:04 PM
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I bought 1 of these coins in 2017/2018 maybe. Not the one ith 2FA but the one with PK. The risk associated with 2FA frm an unknown company or PK stickers were already well known. That's why  ive never bought any BTC again from one of these tiny unreliable on line shops. Unfortunateley, my worst fear materialized a couple of years ago. Taking risk then complaining when things turn wrong, i have no word to describe this.
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“Your worst fears”
So were you unable to redeem your coin,  though it was the private key type?

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is this something he's still doing giving 40-50% face value ?? I have 3 of the 2 factors that he fucked me on im planing on filing civil theft civil rico civil fraud lawsuits on him and then demanding the btc vault back and I also have a meeting with FBI this Thursday to go over my case.
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Side note rant - This is why IMO no one should buy the new Satori coins that force funding (sizable amount) and there’s some sorta 2FA involved/ pdf/ website involvement needed to redeem, in at least one of the versions. Either way Moto is running this release very oddly considering he’s been such a strong smart advocate of btc for so many years and understands the collectible space very well.. then goes and makes shit like their upcoming drop , and tho STILL no official sale price, all talks of what it’s “likely to be around from sources in the know “ is ridiculously high.

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Gotta agree on the Satori concerns. Potential pricing seems close to ridiculous and the 2FA system is so unbelievable unnecessary and backwards. As if pre-printed keys are not risky enough, no we need an extra potential-point of failure / potential-scam-entry-point via 2FA.
Easy to stay away from this one (for me) and enjoy the smaller domination old-school satori chips.




I bought 1 of these coins in 2017/2018 maybe. Not the one ith 2FA but the one with PK. [...] Unfortunately, my worst fear materialized a couple of years ago. [...]
What happened exactly, did you peel the coin? Was there a private key that was already redeemed? Please give us some details, so far I haven't seen evidence about compromised PK-Titans.

[...] Taking risk then complaining when things turn wrong, i have no word to describe this.
Not sure I understand what you are trying to say. We shouldn't complain because the risk is/was known?!

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“Your worst fears”
So were you unable to redeem your coin,  though it was the private key type?


By 'worst fear' i mean the hypothetical risk became a real one. Tiny company, unknown owner, PK sticker outsourced, 2FA : a disaster waiting to happen.  To say the truth, i do not plan to redeem the coin anytime soon (i paid 800 a 1 ounce silver coin with a hypothetical BTC attached just for fun). Would be great to have feedback from PK owner.
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Does anyone know if say person x bought Titan 2Fa in XYZ state, can Tim be taken to a court in XYZ state , or would if have to be the state Tim sold them from, or at the federal level? Or Fed level for class
action or will a state court take this on? Maybe more than one works?

@anyone speaking w any legal eagles on this topic
Please ask them this stuff.  Before one goes and googles this, I must warn, it’s not that simple. Not in the U.S. anyhow.  

A long time friend, a good & fair person, just got appointed to a very high level position in my state that deals with money /theft fraud violations.  I’m going to try and learn a bit more
B4 reaching out but if she can legally take the case, she will. Fn pathetic it would have to come to that.  

Tim going to prison for stealing from our wallets then getting his stolen, over and over again each night  ..what beautiful irony that like be.  https://youtu.be/lXkFZh5Q2nY?si=vZh0WvEPmLd5kqQ5

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criminally speaking its been to long a prosecutor may not take the case he's also made efforts to pay people back so that defines the intent to defraud since he's made efforts to pay back I think best bet is for everyone to reach out and take the 48%
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Does anyone know if say person x bought Titan 2Fa in XYZ state, can Tim be taken to a court in XYZ state , or would if have to be the state Tim sold them from, or at the federal level? Or Fed level for class
action or will a state court take this on? Maybe more than one works?

If I had to take an educated guess, I would say this is a federal matter, as I doubt he had a MSB license for any state.. and he definitely sold to people who live(d) outside of California

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Anyone had any issues redeeming the Gold PK ones?

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Anyone had any issues redeeming the Gold PK ones?
YES,
I bought 5 Gold PKs. 4 i was able to redeem few years ago.however one was not...emailed Tim many many times but he never got back to me.
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Anyone had any issues redeeming the Gold PK ones?
YES,
I bought 5 Gold PKs. 4 i was able to redeem few years ago.however one was not...emailed Tim many many times but he never got back to me.



Do you remember how you redeemed them? Is it a Mini Private Key under the sticker, or did it need a website in order to get the key/address or anything?
What was different about the one you could not redeem?

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Anyone had any issues redeeming the Gold PK ones?
YES,
I bought 5 Gold PKs. 4 i was able to redeem few years ago.however one was not...emailed Tim many many times but he never got back to me.



Do you remember how you redeemed them? Is it a Mini Private Key under the sticker, or did it need a website in order to get the key/address or anything?
What was different about the one you could not redeem?
PK under the sticker. however the public key shows its loaded but private key doesnt correspond.
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Anyone had any issues redeeming the Gold PK ones?
YES,
I bought 5 Gold PKs. 4 i was able to redeem few years ago.however one was not...emailed Tim many many times but he never got back to me.



Do you remember how you redeemed them? Is it a Mini Private Key under the sticker, or did it need a website in order to get the key/address or anything?
What was different about the one you could not redeem?
PK under the sticker. however the public key shows its loaded but private key doesnt correspond.


Well fuck. Mine is locked in Deposit box, guess I need to make the trek to pick it up and peel it, so I know if i've been fucked.

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Anyone had any issues redeeming the Gold PK ones?
YES,
I bought 5 Gold PKs. 4 i was able to redeem few years ago.however one was not...emailed Tim many many times but he never got back to me.


Damn this is pretty fd up. Can’t say I’m super surprised or anything. Even more of a reason to peel PK coins if yet to have done so. Sorry to hear it.

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September 08, 2025, 01:08:01 PM
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Anyone had any issues redeeming the Gold PK ones?
YES,
I bought 5 Gold PKs. 4 i was able to redeem few years ago.however one was not...emailed Tim many many times but he never got back to me.



Do you remember how you redeemed them? Is it a Mini Private Key under the sticker, or did it need a website in order to get the key/address or anything?
What was different about the one you could not redeem?
PK under the sticker. however the public key shows its loaded but private key doesnt correspond.


That is seriously concerning.
Was the key difficult to read - is there a possibility you mixed up a letter for a number (l, I, 1, O, 0 etc. sometimes can be hard to distinguish), or was the printing already fading making it difficult to decipher?
Or just clearly the printed key was invalid?

I am wondering because if indeed there are also issues with the PK versions of coins, I am thinking of peeling my silver 2017 pk titan, just to avoid any disappointment in the future. And given what already happened it seems like the smarter option tbh.
I really love the design and want to keep it original but I also know it's naive to not take action. Selling, peeling or hodl and feel stupid in a few years?

Get educated about Bitcoin. Check out Andreas Antonopoulos on Youtube. An old but gold talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc744Z9IjhY

UPDATE 2024: Daniel Schmachtenberger on The Meta-Crisis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSx8j8lSewA Important talk about the current state of this planet and human society in general.
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