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October 04, 2025, 02:06:02 PM
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13 years ago, in this article, I foresaw the situation Israel finds itself in today.

     Alik Bakhshi

From the National Camp to Nazism

In Israel, the term "national camp" is commonly used to describe all right-wing politicians who have unjustifiably assumed the exclusive right to be responsible for the well-being of the state, its present and future existence, while denying the left-wing opposition a similar privilege. Moreover, at times, the left-wing opposition is practically considered traitors to the state, and in religious circles, to the Land of Israel, which, according to halachic law, is punishable by death, as evidenced by the assassination of Yitzhak Rabin by a religious fanatic. The German Nazis also once believed they embodied the best of the people and the country, and on this basis, they usurped power by physically eliminating their political opponents. The outcome for Germany and its people is well known, but, unfortunately, it is also known that history teaches nothing. In light of this, the danger of the national camp sliding toward Nazism, and possibly even its extreme religious form, is quite real (1). There are serious prerequisites for this:

1. The disregard for the opinion of the international community ("it doesn't matter what the goyim say, it matters what the Jews do" – this programmatic phrase of Ben-Gurion underlies the policy of the Jewish state).

2. The growing influence of the clerical population due to the high birth rate in religious families, the synergy of Zionism and Judaism (Jewish exclusivity), since religion is not separated from the state. The latter indicates that Israel, like Russia's sovereign democracy, has its own special kind of democracy – a democracy with a religious component, which is very close to the religious democracy in Iran.

3. The imperial worldview of Russian repatriates (2), who are entirely right-wing, is no coincidence that their leader is Lieberman, who is arguably the most right-winger in Israel today.

The international community's growing rejection of the apartheid policies pursued by the Israeli right against the Palestinian people has fuelled open resentment among the Israeli leadership, accusing it of being too democratic and tolerant. Israel has been particularly outraged by the UN Human Rights Committee, which annually notes violations of Palestinian rights in its reports. It appears Israel intends to completely refuse to cooperate with this committee, which is planning to send a delegation to Israel to review the status of Palestinian rights in the occupied territories. There are calls among Israeli politicians to bar the UN delegation from entering the country, which undoubtedly indicates that human rights in Israel are problematic!
Oddly enough, in the current unsightly situation, the national camp primarily blames the journalists who reflect reality, and is therefore attempting to restrict freedom of speech through legislation and even reform the judiciary, depriving it of independence. This could ultimately lead not only to the persecution of journalists but also to a more dire consequence – Nazism, as happened in Germany. Incidentally, my opponents have a similar reaction to articles criticizing the policies of the Israeli right; obscenities directed at the author, and even threats of physical violence, distributed online (http://perevodika.ru/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t8134.html) expose their impotence and inability to refute the opinions expressed in the articles. This behaviour is typical of the right. Realizing, and perhaps even sensing, that they have no arguments, they are initially, spontaneously ready for aggression. On the eve of Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin's assassination, right-wing extremists distributed posters calling for his physical assassination. I'm certainly no Yitzhak Rabin, but... Apparently, this method is the right's only way to resist the truth and the inevitable, just solution to the Palestinian problem, which is ending the occupation of Palestine.

It should be noted that Jews traditionally play a significant role in the media, and their influence in presenting material and, consequently, shaping public opinion is enormous. Yet, despite this, Israel is losing the information war. Neither the traditional accusations of anti-Semitism nor the immoral exploitation of the Holocaust to cover up anti-democratic actions, reminiscent of the actions of the German Nazis before their seizure of power and subsequent establishment of a totalitarian regime, are helping. One can delete a topic or block access to a website using one's position in the media. For example, on the TVS forum, all my topics concerning Israel were closed, leaving only topics criticizing Putin's policies. This clearly illustrates the selective bias of the Jewish website Ekho Moskvy (http://www.forum-tvs.ru/index.php?act=Search&nav=au&CODE=show&searchid=c04016af1481ef1bca02fb8dfa1d314a&search_in=topics&result_type=topics).
Even in Azerbaijan, on forums of Baku-based websites (for example: http://www.disput.az/?showforum=15), the moderators are Israelis, who, using administrative resources, close topics about Israel; such is the influence of Jews in the media. Lies can be spread, even at the highest levels, as revealed in a private conversation between Presidents Obama and Sarkozy, who called Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu a liar (3). But it's impossible to erase public opinion, which is increasingly turning against Israel. One cannot help but recall the Eastern proverb, "A lie can take off like a chicken, but it cannot fly." Sooner or later, the truth will come to light.

The national camp's ignoring of the international community and continuing apartheid policies will inevitably end in the curtailment of democracy and ultimately lead to isolation, which, for a country as precarious as Israel, means certain death. The Jews will once again lose their hard-won historical homeland. Will Herzl's Zionist ideology suffer the same fate as Marx's communist ideology? Is everything really predetermined by fate, and any attempt, including ideological ones, to change it is mistaken (4), if not completely impossible?

1. "Israeli Democracy or the 'Jewish Worldview'," http://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/10015.html
2. "Baggage from the Empire, or Why We Are Right Here," http://www.proza.ru/2008/03/22/523
3. "A Sought-After Liar for the State of Israel," http://www.proza.ru/2011/11/28/256
4. "Israel and the Simple, Pure Truth," http://www.proza.ru/2008/10/05/48

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October 04, 2025, 02:26:47 PM
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I don't think Israel trying to conquer and rule the whole of the Palestinian territories was a hard thing to predict. Especially since foreign governments like Lebanon, Egypt and Jordan were actively engaged in not accepting individuals from Gaza and the West Bank do Israel would need to only make a hostile environment for them all to resettle in a neighbouring country. I think Egypt would be able to overpower Hamas pretty readily but wouldn't want the extra resources for it while Israel has no fight and extra help from the US and others in the West.

The right and imperialists do just fight an information war and then turn to aggression. I think that's pretty common, I think the left try information wars in some ways but have a harder time pulling it off due to them having somewhat less funding and resources along with a higher need for a burden of proof from their own ranks.

There are a lot of calls the current drive in Israel is just to keep the currently elected government in power as it's hard to transition if they're actively engaged in conflict and most countries try not to change governments in that time (the UK in WWII made a bilateral government for example after about a year of the war being declared).

I don't know if UN investigators will actually survive going into Israel or surveying them (especially the area Gaza occupies). The recent aid flotillas have shown how hostile Israel is towards anyone trying to get near them that have any views contrary to theirs.
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October 04, 2025, 03:52:31 PM
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The international community's growing rejection of the apartheid policies pursued by the Israeli right against the Palestinian people has fuelled open resentment among the Israeli leadership, accusing it of being too democratic and tolerant. Israel has been particularly outraged by the UN Human Rights Committee, which annually notes violations of Palestinian rights in its reports.

you got no clue, and is obvious

israel has forever looked to co-exist it has been the ones offering soo soo soo many treaties, so many peace deals, so many accords
but the hamas(+iran regime that sponsor it) want 100% pure arabian region.
arabian jihadi groups have dozens of states but still want more. they are saying they want death to israel. they turn down peacedeals

israel are against the UN's hushing up of hamas's atrocities. and its sponsored heads history
iran, hamas and many jihadi groups want apartheid and do not want co-existance
calling anyone non arab a "settler", infidel, zionist to show they think non-arabs dont belong in the region

as for battles between the sides, israel send warnings when jihadi groups take over civilian infrastructure, israel try to get as many people out of the danger zones including waiting a month for citizens to move before pursuing battles with the likes of hamas. hamas dont care about palestinians, they want martyrs, they want sacrifices. and yet the UN fear getting on hamas's bad side out of fear hamas would take UN agents as hostages. so they stay quiet about hamas's atrocious acts, even hamas's atrocious acts against palestinians.

even this week there was a 20point peace deal offered, but hamas are cagey about agreeing and instead wanting to negotiate a deal that still makes them relevant with some form of armed guard presence and a say in palestinian politics. in short they dont want peace and wont give up their arms first

I don't know if UN investigators will actually survive going into Israel or surveying them (especially the area Gaza occupies). The recent aid flotillas have shown how hostile Israel is towards anyone trying to get near them that have any views contrary to theirs.
hostile? arresting migrants that wish to cross a border without a permit/visa... sorry but greta using buzzwords and the silly people repeating it does not counter standard border rules most countries have. she wasnt violently kidnapped, she was arrested

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