The U.S.–China Trade War Just Shook the Market Again

[STT]

they need to spend money to buy it the way they do with gold and other assets.

There is no net savings at present, it will be an annual spend of 1 trillion interest on the national debt or 14% of the nations taxes are spent just trying to stay afloat.  There is a fiscal deficit and the debt will expand as it does every year so they aren't saving anything at all, the gold is retained and it goes up in price because they are wrecking dollar value but its not enough to counter balance the losses.
   I see their use of a BTC reserve like they hold some Russian assets that will be retained to pay for all the damage done by Russian invading various countries.   Its not going to be enough to balance the damage done there either.

[BALIK]

Battling China will not gain America anything. We have seen it and seen how it just hurts American economy, nobody is getting better and for some reason republicans like it.

Because they like that their president is "bullying" some nation, when in reality the "bullied" which is China, doesn't even care, because they make superior products and for cheaper, so they are selling to the whole world. I do not like China single bit, the way they are run, they are dictatorship and I never liked any dictatorships, even if the economy is going great, it is still not democracy. However, that doesn't change the fact that Trump could make the tariffs %10000 and it would still not stop China from growing bigger than USA.

Trump would not randomly launch a trade war with China if he had no clear purpose and did not benefit from it. He noticed that China was growing rapidly, while the United States seemed to be slowing down. If this situation continues, China and its allies will soon surpass the United States, NATO and the G7 to dominate the world. It can be said that China is a challenge and threat to America's leading position if we look at the issue from America's perspective.

But instead of competing fairly, they are too scared and afraid of losing because they know that they will not be able to compete directly with China. So instead, they have resorted to cheap schemes of causing global chaos, creating an unstable world to stifle China's growth and weaken the rest of the world so they can maintain their leading position.

They believe that by doing so, they will also be hurt, but the rest of the world will be hurt more seriously. Fom there, they could maintain their power but it seems their calculation was wrong when they underestimated China's power and potential. They are the ones who suffer more serious losses.

[ImGenius]

I think Trump's tone should be softer. This 100% tariff is not only affecting China and the United States, but it will also affect the global economy. I think China will take the income it used to earn in the United States from other countries. That will hurt the global economy. Also, the fall in the price of Bitcoin has also become a concern.

[bettercrypto]

President Trump’s latest move a 100% tariff on Chinese tech imports announced on October 10 sent shockwaves through global markets. Stocks tumbled, with the Nasdaq sliding 3.1%, and crypto wasn’t spared either. Bitcoin briefly crashed to around $102K before bouncing back slightly.

The selloff showed just how closely crypto now moves with traditional markets. On the day, Bitcoin’s correlation with the Nasdaq hit 0.90 one of the highest in recent months. As fear gripped traders, money quickly flowed out of risk assets and into safe havens like gold, which climbed 1.2%.

All eyes are now on Beijing’s next move. Any retaliation especially around tech or rare earth exports could fuel more volatility across global markets, including crypto.

You know, Trump is a good player because of his background as a businessman. Just imagine, despite what he's doing which is very obvious manipulation of the market through
the tariff that he constantly uses and then suddenly withdraws.

What if, before he does this, he talks to Xi Jinping so that both of them can benefit from the market? This is possible. Just think, even with what he does,
his friendship with Xi Jinping still remains, right?

[Cossyblack]

You know, Trump is a good player because of his background as a businessman.

Donald Trump is a good player and the United State still lost $1.65 trillion in the America stock market,all in a single day . This is to tell you how fragile the US economy is from the inside despite bragging to be world power. Let's call a spade a spade,Donald Trump isn't a smart leader,he is reckless,full of pride and doesn't know when to quit. They started the trade war against China and now, there are the ones begging to meet president Xi Jinping for a negotiation to end the trade war they started. The Truth is,if Donald Trump fails to end the trade war against China,US Economy will be in a big mess.

[Swordsoffreedom]

You know, Trump is a good player because of his background as a businessman.

Donald Trump is a good player and the United State still lost $1.65 trillion in the America stock market,all in a single day . This is to tell you how fragile the US economy is from the inside despite bragging to be world power. Let's call a spade a spade,Donald Trump isn't a smart leader,he is reckless,full of pride and doesn't know when to quit. They started the trade war against China and now, there are the ones begging to meet president Xi Jinping for a negotiation to end the trade war they started. The Truth is,if Donald Trump fails to end the trade war against China,US Economy will be in a big mess.

$1.65 trillion is nothing compared to the losses the US stock market suffered when Trump launched the trade war in March. And if I remember correctly, the damage was estimated at $11 trillion. Not stopping there, the trade war has caused the US economy to slow down in the past two quarters, making the Fed hesitant to lower interest rates. All of that has cost US businesses, institutions and consumers trillions of dollars. It’s ridiculous to look at that data and still have people claiming that Trump is a good player and a good president.

Update: Anti-Trump protests with the slogan "No King" are spreading across all 50 US states. If he were a good player and a good president, this would never have happened.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/10/18/no-kings-protest-trump-crowds-live-updates/86689448007/

[WillyAp]

what we see now is that many companies built factories and cannot sell those. They are not even trying. They hope the tariffs go away.
Industry is so far from reality that some of their leader use X or Linkedin to see a real life struggle.
China after the 1st Trump shock just moved on and built in the rest of the world. That tactic should be copied and replicated.

Elon is much more relaxed as he built is giga factories in place he thinks to be stable.

In the EU the entire administration is unaware.

[Hispo]

You know, Trump is a good player because of his background as a businessman.

Donald Trump is a good player and the United State still lost $1.65 trillion in the America stock market,all in a single day . This is to tell you how fragile the US economy is from the inside despite bragging to be world power. Let's call a spade a spade,Donald Trump isn't a smart leader,he is reckless,full of pride and doesn't know when to quit. They started the trade war against China and now, there are the ones begging to meet president Xi Jinping for a negotiation to end the trade war they started. The Truth is,if Donald Trump fails to end the trade war against China,US Economy will be in a big mess.

I am not sure whether he is a good player or not, even good players take some calculated risks and take some calculated damage in order to pursue a long term strategy, that is at least how many Trump supporters are going to view this market shake provoked by Trump and his commercial war against China.
In the end, the United States economy continues to be highly dependant on the cheap labor of China and other Asian countries, whether Republicans like it or not, and adding tariffs to products coming from China will only affect Americans living in the USA as the price of those tariffs are going to be passed upon them, companies won't adsorb the prices of Trump's economical policies, that is for sure.

Trump obviously wants to pressure China into getting a deal which would be more favorable to USA, but that is very unlikely to happen China has more economical leverage and labor than the United States.

[WillyAp]

Trump obviously wants to pressure China into getting a deal which would be more favorable to USA, but that is very unlikely to happen China has more economical leverage and labor than the United States.

Maybe DT is not reading the right papers?

China’s turn away from US exports began alongside its imposition of tariffs in response to Trump’s trade confrontation, starting in 2018. Trump and President Xi Jinping announced a truce in January 2020, at which point China pledged to increase its imports from the United States by $200 billion over two years.

  That came out in 2023.

https://www.piie.com/blogs/realtime-economics/2023/five-years-trade-war-china-continues-its-slow-decoupling-us-exports

[puloweh555]

You know, Trump is a good player because of his background as a businessman.

Donald Trump is a good player and the United State still lost $1.65 trillion in the America stock market,all in a single day . This is to tell you how fragile the US economy is from the inside despite bragging to be world power. Let's call a spade a spade,Donald Trump isn't a smart leader,he is reckless,full of pride and doesn't know when to quit. They started the trade war against China and now, there are the ones begging to meet president Xi Jinping for a negotiation to end the trade war they started. The Truth is,if Donald Trump fails to end the trade war against China,US Economy will be in a big mess.

I agree with you. I see Trump's decisions as sometimes blunders. He feels he's still a superpower, even though the reality is that the US is currently suffering, especially with the numerous wars that are costing money. This is evident when Trump made that decision, which resulted in a $1.65 trillion loss in the US stock market. A ruler isn't necessarily smart when he becomes president, and I also see Trump as wanting to appear strong in the eyes of the world.

Moreover China has experience dealing with Trump's policies. When someone experiences problem A for the first time, it will be a severe blow. But after two or three times, it will become commonplace, and the person will become stronger. Adding 100% tariffs on China would be tantamount to suicide, especially in software, where China is already highly self sufficient. Huawei, for example, has created its own ecosystem, independent of Android. China can also produce its own hardware. Furthermore China has joined the BRICS, making it secure in its trade market without the US. So it can be said that Trump's decision was indeed very reckless.

[hyudien]

Trump obviously wants to pressure China into getting a deal which would be more favorable to USA, but that is very unlikely to happen China has more economical leverage and labor than the United States.

Let's go back a few years to when the tariff war first started. The USA successfully pressured China with its high tariffs, then a few months later, what happened? China responded and took the same action, for about three years the two countries were at war and the tensions subsided after they signed the Phase One Trade Deal. Now the USA is starting again, I don't know what's on Trump mind, after all China has been through it all and they certainly know how to anticipate pressure from the USA, and as you said China economy is currently superior in all areas so what Trump is doing feels useless like slowly digging his own grave.

[nikola22]

$1.65 trillion is nothing compared to the losses the US stock market suffered when Trump launched the trade war in March. And if I remember correctly, the damage was estimated at $11 trillion. Not stopping there, the trade war has caused the US economy to slow down in the past two quarters, making the Fed hesitant to lower interest rates. All of that has cost US businesses, institutions and consumers trillions of dollars. It’s ridiculous to look at that data and still have people claiming that Trump is a good player and a good president.

Update: Anti-Trump protests with the slogan "No King" are spreading across all 50 US states. If he were a good player and a good president, this would never have happened.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/10/18/no-kings-protest-trump-crowds-live-updates/86689448007/

moreover these losses for the markets in trillion dollars could be more than just a one-time event. they could have negative consequences in the long term. maybe Trump is a good president for crypto but he is not so good for the rest.

it feels like he's surrounded himself with people who don't contradict him and fulfill his every wish. he takes any criticism like a touchy teenager. a good president respects voters even if they didn't vote for him and doesn't post videos like Trump in Truth Social: https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115398251623299921

it's very disrespectful to american citizens.