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November 20, 2025, 05:08:02 PM
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Hey everyone,

I've been digging into the recent market volatility, and I can't help but wonder if the pullback we're seeing in Bitcoin—might be more than just typical crypto jitters. Could it be tied to the ongoing unwind of the yen carry trade?

For those not familiar, the yen carry trade involves borrowing cheaply in Japanese yen (thanks to the Bank of Japan's low rates) and investing in higher-yielding assets elsewhere, like US stocks, emerging markets, or even crypto. But with Japan's massive fiscal stimulus (over 25 trillion yen announced recently) and the BOJ's reluctance to hike rates aggressively (still hovering around 0.5%), the yen has been strengthening sporadically. This forces investors to unwind positions quickly, selling off riskier assets to cover yen loans.

We've seen this play out before—in August 2024, it triggered global sell-offs, including sharp drops in Bitcoin and other cryptos as hedge funds liquidated leveraged bets. Fast forward to now: estimates suggest up to $1.2 trillion in borrowed funds could be at play, and with US rate cuts potentially slowing (Fed signaling less than 200 bps in easing), the dollar's weakness might be amplifying the pressure. Crypto, being a high-risk asset, gets hit hard in these scenarios—reduced risk appetite means outflows from BTC and alts, exacerbating the retracement.

Of course, this is speculative, and Bitcoin has its own drivers like ETF inflows or regulatory news. But the timing lines up with yen appreciation spikes and broader market dips (e.g., S&P volatility echoing crypto moves).

What are your thoughts? Has anyone tracked yen/USD correlations with BTC lately? Or is this just coincidence amid broader economic slowdown fears? Would love to hear if you're adjusting strategies based on this.



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November 21, 2025, 07:33:07 AM
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Hey everyone,

I've been digging into the recent market volatility, and I can't help but wonder if the pullback we're seeing in Bitcoin—might be more than just typical crypto jitters. Could it be tied to the ongoing unwind of the yen carry trade?

For those not familiar, the yen carry trade involves borrowing cheaply in Japanese yen (thanks to the Bank of Japan's low rates) and investing in higher-yielding assets elsewhere, like US stocks, emerging markets, or even crypto. But with Japan's massive fiscal stimulus (over 25 trillion yen announced recently) and the BOJ's reluctance to hike rates aggressively (still hovering around 0.5%), the yen has been strengthening sporadically. This forces investors to unwind positions quickly, selling off riskier assets to cover yen loans.

We've seen this play out before—in August 2024, it triggered global sell-offs, including sharp drops in Bitcoin and other cryptos as hedge funds liquidated leveraged bets. Fast forward to now: estimates suggest up to $1.2 trillion in borrowed funds could be at play, and with US rate cuts potentially slowing (Fed signaling less than 200 bps in easing), the dollar's weakness might be amplifying the pressure. Crypto, being a high-risk asset, gets hit hard in these scenarios—reduced risk appetite means outflows from BTC and alts, exacerbating the retracement.

Of course, this is speculative, and Bitcoin has its own drivers like ETF inflows or regulatory news. But the timing lines up with yen appreciation spikes and broader market dips (e.g., S&P volatility echoing crypto moves).

What are your thoughts? Has anyone tracked yen/USD correlations with BTC lately? Or is this just coincidence amid broader economic slowdown fears? Would love to hear if you're adjusting strategies based on this.

From my own recent research, I agree that the yen carry trade unwind can influence Bitcoin more than many traders assume. When funding positions in yen becomes expensive, large players often exit risk assets quickly, and crypto feels the impact first because of its liquidity and volatility. The timing of the yen spikes and BTC pullbacks does line up unusually well.

At the same time, I don’t think the carry trade is the only driver. ETF flows, U.S. rate expectations, and general macro sentiment still shape most of Bitcoin’s short-term direction. The current slowdown across multiple markets suggests the reaction is broader than just yen pressure.

Tracking USD/JPY correlation with BTC has shown mixed results on the daily timeframe but stronger reactions during extreme yen moves. Because of that, I’m not changing my long-term strategy, but I’m being more cautious with leverage whenever the yen strengthens sharply.

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November 21, 2025, 09:35:37 AM
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The BTC-yen correlation is rarely found in any news or speculative discussions. I think events in the Japanese asset market only contributes ~2% to crypto volatility, and even then, it's event-driven, not a long-term trend.

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We've seen this play out before—in August 2024, it triggered global sell-offs, including sharp drops in Bitcoin and other cryptos as hedge funds liquidated leveraged bets.
Your fundamentals list needs some updates. BTC now has a new macro drivers that 2024 didn't have, US spot ETFs are creating new structural demand that sometimes goes against macro trends.

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November 21, 2025, 09:58:56 AM
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I've been digging into the recent market volatility, and I can't help but wonder if the pullback we're seeing in Bitcoin—might be more than just typical crypto jitters. Could it be tied to the ongoing unwind of the yen carry trade?
The answer is No! Yen and Bitcoin have a little to know corrections, and if there are brokers/exchanges pairing Bitcoin with Yen, as in the case of BTC/JPY, they are little, and even the trading volume will be so negligible to control this market this much.

You see, as things are, I could only think of two most important factors, which are: 1. Bitcoin 4-cycle is in play (History repeating itself in Bitcoin tradition) and 2. A natural bearish sentiment (it's even overdue), and it is evident on the larger timeframes.

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