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April 24, 2014, 09:23:02 PM
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Im getting real sick of people saying "bitcoin is for criminals"

Is BitGive a criminal organization? No!!! BitCoin is the only way this charity can use everything it has raised to help people. If they were to use fiat money there would've been so many middle man fees (from banks and government) that would eat up a huge chunk of the money raised.

          “A lot of the funding donated in fiat currencies is significantly diminished through government processes and oversight,         transaction fees, and corruption.

The reduction in fees and corruption via direct transactions means more funding is actually going to the intended cause.”

          Connie Gallippi, The BitGive Foundation

So because of bitcoin, charitys can recieve all the money raised.With fiat money, middlemen will recieve a large chunk instead. Which one of these seems more criminal-like to you?
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April 24, 2014, 09:46:22 PM
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Im getting real sick of people saying "bitcoin is for criminals"

Is BitGive a criminal organization? No!!! BitCoin is the only way this charity can use everything it has raised to help people. If they were to use fiat money there would've been so many middle man fees (from banks and government) that would eat up a huge chunk of the money raised.

          “A lot of the funding donated in fiat currencies is significantly diminished through government processes and oversight,         transaction fees, and corruption.

The reduction in fees and corruption via direct transactions means more funding is actually going to the intended cause.”

          Connie Gallippi, The BitGive Foundation

So because of bitcoin, charitys can recieve all the money raised.With fiat money, middlemen will recieve a large chunk instead. Which one of these seems more criminal-like to you?

Come on just do not feed those trolls.

Bitcoin is for human kind. We are the criminals, we are the police, we are the people we are everything we are.

We can say that $$ is for criminals! Look how many dealers are using cash to pay for their drugs..

But it isn't like that and we all understand it.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Regards.
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April 24, 2014, 10:17:05 PM
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"criminals" is an inheretently wrong term.   there is nothing wrong with mary jane.  i mean COME ON.

i am here.
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April 24, 2014, 10:33:32 PM
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I'm more worried about the professional criminals in our banks, our courtrooms, our corporate HQs, our prisons our schools and our Congress. I'm not so worried about the working-class crooks on my street.

My view is:

"Your Honor, years ago I recognized my kinship with all living beings, and I made up my mind that I was not one bit better than the meanest on earth. I said then, and I say now, that while there is a lower class, I am in it, and while there is a criminal element I am of it, and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free."
-Eugene V. Debs

http://www.marxists.org/archive/debs/works/1918/court.htm

"Your Honor, I have stated in this court that I am opposed to the social system in which we live; that I believe in a fundamental change—but if possible by peaceable and orderly means…"

"Your Honor, I ask no mercy and I plead for no immunity. I realize that finally the right must prevail. I never so clearly comprehended as now the great struggle between the powers of greed and exploitation on the one hand and upon the other the rising hosts of industrial freedom and social justice."
-also Mr. Debs.

"Something was in Debs, seemingly, that did not come out unless you saw him. I'm told that even those speeches of his which seem to any reader indifferent stuff, took on vitality from his presence. A hard-bitten socialist told me once, "Gene Debs is the only one who can get away with the sentimental flummery that's been tied onto Socialism in this country. Pretty nearly always it gives me a swift pain to go around to meetings and have people call me 'comrade.' That's a lot of bunk. But the funny part of it is that when Debs says 'comrade' it is all right. He means it. That old man with the burning eyes actually believes that there can be such a thing as the brotherhood of man. And that's not the funniest part of it. As long as he's around I believe it myself."
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April 25, 2014, 07:26:51 AM
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Yesterday I got a Whatsapp message from a friend of mine,
Did you read the newspaper
- No why
Bitcoin again in bad news, some guy made millions in drugs and got paid out in Bitcoin
- let me read it
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You see Bitcoin is for drugs
-No man, just a guy who sold drugs on Silk road, old story!!!

Had to tell him how much drugs is sold daily with fiat and that is everyday in the news.
Did my Bitcoin story to him, but he has a point...people read BITCOIN DRUGS or BITCOIN PRICEDROP and they see bitcoin as negative.
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April 25, 2014, 08:10:16 AM
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I'm sick and tired of people saying "bitcoin is for criminals". It is high time to forget this old silly stereotype
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April 25, 2014, 08:28:20 AM
Last edit: April 25, 2014, 02:25:07 PM by franky1
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my reply to those people is define a criminal

1) people that do something illegal in which the authorities would like to know about.
 - that covers pretty much anyone with a parking ticket

2) anyone caught doing something illegal and is imprisoned
 - well there in prison. so probably dont have internet access, unless their crime was not that big to be worthy of a 5+ year sentance

3) if not yet caught, please refer to first option

then i would tell them about HSBC, centuries of bank robberies, the daily drugs trade on the streets of detroit and places such as 'red light districts' of the world.
i would then add the police statistics of pick pockets, house thefts, debit card cloning using ATM skimmers, accountancy and tax fraud in business
and by now they are trying to think of a rebuttle, thus i would continue with the illegal acts governments do such as invading countries, stealing other nations oil, selling weapons to terrorists.
and then when the person looks like they cant think of a reply. ill finish off with the fact that the person needs to see that accepting bitcoin actually gets away from all of the bank and government illicit acts.

I DO NOT TRADE OR ACT AS ESCROW ON THIS FORUM EVER.
Please do your own research & respect what is written here as both opinion & information gleaned from experience. many people replying with insults but no on-topic content substance, automatically are 'facepalmed' and yawned at
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April 25, 2014, 03:21:31 PM
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my reply to those people is define a criminal

1) people that do something illegal in which the authorities would like to know about.
 - that covers pretty much anyone with a parking ticket

2) anyone caught doing something illegal and is imprisoned
 - well there in prison. so probably dont have internet access, unless their crime was not that big to be worthy of a 5+ year sentance

3) if not yet caught, please refer to first option

then i would tell them about HSBC, centuries of bank robberies, the daily drugs trade on the streets of detroit and places such as 'red light districts' of the world.
i would then add the police statistics of pick pockets, house thefts, debit card cloning sing ATM skimmers, accontancy and taxfraud in business
and by now they are trying to think of a rebuttle, thus i would continue with the illegal acts governments do such as invading countries, stealing other nations oil, selling weapons to terrorists.
and then when the person looks like they cant think of a reply. ill finish off with the fact that the person needs to see that accepting bitcoin actually gets away from all of the bank and government illicit acts.

Exactly!! I can guarantee without even looking it up, that since bitcoins release in '09, more drugs have been paid for with fiat cash than bitcoin
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