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June 13, 2014, 04:18:11 AM
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Hi everyone !!

  So I was doing some searching online and ran across the bitcoin site.. but I have to admit I'm having a hard time understand the basic of it all. What I do understand is it is a new type of currency being used. Ive spent the past hour and a half reading and even being a intelligent person there doesn't seem to be much that explains the 101 of bitcoin.. for example ..

Do you buy bitcoins with actual US dollars ?

What sites/stores even take it .. ?

Im really just hoping someone will be kind enough to give me the quick basic of how this works. Thanks so much !
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June 13, 2014, 05:42:02 AM
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Yes it's a new kind of digital money with no issuing bank , govt. or central authority.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin

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June 13, 2014, 07:34:15 AM
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Well, it's kinda hard to explain everything in just a few words but I'll try to go over the basics. Anyone else would like to add something or correct me, please do so.
Bitcoin (BTC) is virtual currency, the first of its kind, introduced back in 2009. To this day the creator of Bitcoin remains unknown.
New Bitcoins are generated through a process known as 'mining' which is not unlike real life mining for gold. Anyone with a computer can mine bitcoins although these days you'd have to have ridiculously powerful hardware to be able to get any through mining. The total number of Bitcoins that will ever exist is somewhere around 21 million. Right now close to 13 mil bitcoins have already been mined and it will take another 100-140 years for remaining amount to be mined.

Yes you can purchase Bitcoins using US dollars. You can store your Bitcoins on your computer using a special client software known as a 'wallet' or using online wallet services such as Coinbase.

There are more and more shops and online services that accept bitcoin these days. Just google 'businesses that accept bitcoin'.

There's a lot more to bitcoin than what I've covered here. Sorry if I can't go over all of it. Hopefully someone else can add something to this.

I'd recommend that you search the forum here, there's bound to be a lot of useful information.

Anyways welcome to Bitcointalk. Don't worry you'll get the hang of it eventually Wink

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June 13, 2014, 01:31:01 PM
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Do you buy bitcoins with actual US dollars ?
Yes, you can buy bitcoins with US dollars (and vice versa).

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What sites/stores even take it .. ?

The number of stores are increasing. This site lists a ton of them http://coinmap.org/
There are also creditcards which allow payment in fiat using bitcoin.
In addition, there are services (jobs) which you can do for bitcoins. One of these is a signature track, which pays for posting on this forum  Smiley

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Im really just hoping someone will be kind enough to give me the quick basic of how this works. Thanks so much !

First, you need a wallet to keep your money in. A wallet is a computer program, which kind of mimics a real life wallet.
Here is a list of wallets https://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet  I would suggest a desktop wallet for security reasons.

Once installed, you will get a bitcoin address. This address is a unique number, which you can use to receive bitcoins.
To send bitcoins, you need someone elses bitcoin address.



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June 13, 2014, 01:38:03 PM
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Do you buy bitcoins with actual US dollars ?

What sites/stores even take it .. ?


Yes.

Big businesses like Overstock, TigerDirect, Dish, Expedia, etc.
And tons of small businesses: https://bitpay.com/directory

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June 13, 2014, 01:59:37 PM
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June 13, 2014, 02:57:59 PM
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Hi everyone !!

  So I was doing some searching online and ran across the bitcoin site.. but I have to admit I'm having a hard time understand the basic of it all. What I do understand is it is a new type of currency being used. Ive spent the past hour and a half reading and even being a intelligent person there doesn't seem to be much that explains the 101 of bitcoin.. for example ..

Do you buy bitcoins with actual US dollars ?

What sites/stores even take it .. ?

Im really just hoping someone will be kind enough to give me the quick basic of how this works. Thanks so much !
Yes, you can purchase BTC with USD.  You can also sell BTC for USD.  Exchanges like coinbase.com provide this type of service.  You can also earn BTC by mining for them, by performing services for them, by entering contests for them, by having them donated to you, etc.

A decent list of providers has already been given, so I won't rehash this one.

At its core, BTC is a decentralized alternative currency.  No central banks/agencies control it.  The record of all transactions is completely public, and the security of those transactions is maintained by the proof of work method.

There are a ton of other types of crypto-currencies, and multiple different algorithms and methodologies by which those coins work.

Jonny's Pool - Mine with us and help us grow!  Support a pool that supports Bitcoin, not a hardware manufacturer's pockets!  No SPV cheats.  No empty blocks.
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June 13, 2014, 08:56:58 PM
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Thank you so much everyone for taking the time to explain some of it. Things like "mining" still seem confusing cause really what the heck are you mining for lol Yes bitcoins but what makes a bitcoin...

Anyways. I know i cant expect you guys to explain everything, i have to do my research. Thank for the kind welcome !
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June 13, 2014, 09:17:09 PM
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Thank you so much everyone for taking the time to explain some of it. Things like "mining" still seem confusing cause really what the heck are you mining for lol Yes bitcoins but what makes a bitcoin...

Anyways. I know i cant expect you guys to explain everything, i have to do my research. Thank for the kind welcome !

You're mining for a secret number that will solve a cryptographic puzzle.
That's about as mch detail as you can handle right now :-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptographic_hash_function

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June 13, 2014, 10:07:34 PM
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It takes a lot of work, just take it in in chucks and you'll get it.
http://youtu.be/Gc2en3nHxA4
http://youtu.be/cFj72hrUZt4
http://youtu.be/Bhe61JaNFLU
http://youtu.be/Lx9zgZCMqXE
About 50 mins of video here.
They'll go over the same stuff, but in different ways.

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June 16, 2014, 01:11:49 AM
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Thank you so much everyone for taking the time to explain some of it. Things like "mining" still seem confusing cause really what the heck are you mining for lol Yes bitcoins but what makes a bitcoin...

Anyways. I know i cant expect you guys to explain everything, i have to do my research. Thank for the kind welcome !

You're mining for a secret number that will solve a cryptographic puzzle.
That's about as mch detail as you can handle right now :-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptographic_hash_function

That is not exactly true.

You are trying to find an equation to which the solution is at or below a certain number. With mining you are trying a lot of equations until you have the right one.   
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June 16, 2014, 01:57:31 AM
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Things like "mining" still seem confusing cause really what the heck are you mining for lol Yes bitcoins but what makes a bitcoin...

Mining is a really bad name for it, but it's the name that we're stuck with.

Miners (or mining pools) are actually transaction processors.  They take the list of unconfirmed transactions, verify that they are valid, and then do some work to add them to the blockchain to confirm them and permanently create a consensus on which transactions actually happened and in which order.

For doing this work, the "miners" (or mining pools) are paid a reward in each block that they add to the blockchain.  This reward consists of all the transaction fees from all the transactions that they added to the blockchain, AND a block subsidy of newly created bitcoins.  At the moment that block subsidy is 25 bitcoins.  Every 210,000 blocks (approximately 4 years) that subsidy is cut in half until eventually it becomes so small (in approximately the year 2140) that it vanishes and miners (or mining pools) are paid entirely with transaction fees.

To add a block of transactions to the blockchain, miners have to do a bit of "work".  This "work" has an adjustable difficulty that is set by the protocol.  The difficulty is adjusted every 2016 blocks such that the entire network of miners trying to accomplish the work will succeed on average every 10 minutes.  If blocks start coming to fast, and the 2016 blocks take less than 2 weeks, then the protocol increases the difficulty.  If the blocks are coming too slow and the 2016 blocks take more than 2 weeks, then the protocol decreases the difficulty.

Different cryptocurrencies use different methods of types of "work", but the important things are that the difficulty must be adjustable, and it must be very fast and easy to verify that the work was done.  In the case of bitcoins, this work is the process of computing a SHA-256 hash of the block header that meets a specific requirement.  After gathering up the unconfirmed transactions that the miner (or mining pool) is going to try and confirm, a block header is built.  In this block header is a field called a nonce. The miner calculates the SHA-256 hash of the block header and checks to see if the resulting 256 bit value is lower than a target value.  If it isn't, then the nonce in incremented, and the miner calculates the SHA-256 hash again.  This process is repeated until the hash is lower than the target value.  The protocol adjusts the difficulty by raising or lowering the target value.

Think of it a bit like flipping 256 coins, one after another.  I can set a difficulty for you by telling you that to "win" you need to get a certain number of heads in a row.  If I say "you need 3 heads in a row", then it's pretty easy.  If I say, "you need 30 heads in a row", then you'll have to try a LOT more times before you succeed.

By requiring this work to be done, the network protects the blockchain from any attacker that might try to go back and change any values from the past.  The attacker would need to complete the same amount of work as the combined total of all the rest of the miners in the world to be able to have a chance of succeeding fast enough for the network to accept his modified blocks in place of the blocks that the rest of the network is creating.  In otherwords, the attacker would need to have a bit more than 50% of the total (including his own) hashing power of the entire bitcoin network.  For this reason, you'll often see this type of theoretical attack referred to as a 51% attack.
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