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Author Topic: Today I read a disturbing post on /r/darknetmarkets called "Stop FEing"  (Read 2306 times)
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January 06, 2015, 06:39:51 PM
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By the way hedging with derivatives is one reason why proof of stake coins can very easily fail.

Could you please expand on that point?






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January 07, 2015, 02:10:33 AM
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(1.) Moral happiness depends upon moral order.
(2.) Moral order depends upon the harmonious action of all our powers, as
individuals and as members of society.
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January 07, 2015, 02:12:11 AM
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By the way hedging with derivatives is one reason why proof of stake coins can very easily fail.

Could you please expand on that point?
Explain.

(1.) Moral happiness depends upon moral order.
(2.) Moral order depends upon the harmonious action of all our powers, as
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January 07, 2015, 07:36:47 PM
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The only problem that I see is that now you've shifted trust to the market instead of the seller and given the market more incentive to steal funds. If you've worked-out a way to make this aspect trustless, you'd have a great solution.

This.

What about buyer escrows a added percentage and covers the market fluctuation up to a certain point, say 15% and when goods are received cost is calculated then and escrow is divied up accordingly. Smiley

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January 07, 2015, 07:38:05 PM
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I have a simple solution  Grin Don't do drugs  Shocked Problem solved  Cool

This may come as a surprise to you but some people die without drugs.

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January 07, 2015, 07:56:11 PM
Last edit: January 07, 2015, 08:09:02 PM by jehst
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The only problem that I see is that now you've shifted trust to the market instead of the seller and given the market more incentive to steal funds. If you've worked-out a way to make this aspect trustless, you'd have a great solution.

This.

What about buyer escrows a added percentage and covers the market fluctuation up to a certain point, say 15% and when goods are received cost is calculated then and escrow is divied up accordingly. Smiley
I'd rate that as:
Buyer 4 Seller 6.

Dude, I already solved the thread with a Buyer 10, Seller 9.5 solution

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January 07, 2015, 08:20:59 PM
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Option 3) USD-stable centralized escrow: Instead of keeping the escrow in a free-floating currency, any deposits received in escrow are immediately exchanged for a USD-stable asset held by the marketplace administrator. Once the buyer receives the product and releases the escrow, the USD-stable asset is exchanged back into the free-floating cryptocurrency. The seller will receive, at the time of escrow release, the amount of free-floating currency equivalent to the seller's list price in USD. The seller then withdraws his anonymous, free-floating cryptocurrency. The transaction is totally untraceable and unlinkable. The seller never sees the USD-stable asset. He takes no volatility risk. He does absolutely 0 work.  


erm.... centralized escrow. Is this an autonomous centralized escrow?

basically my qualm is introducing centralization and a required trust in a third party. I know this 3rd party trust is the basics of escrow, but those are my thoughts.

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January 07, 2015, 09:50:00 PM
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The only problem that I see is that now you've shifted trust to the market instead of the seller and given the market more incentive to steal funds. If you've worked-out a way to make this aspect trustless, you'd have a great solution.

This.

What about buyer escrows a added percentage and covers the market fluctuation up to a certain point, say 15% and when goods are received cost is calculated then and escrow is divied up accordingly. Smiley

Would mitigate risk on both sides, so seems like a fair alternative without making the system overly complex. Would suck for everyone when the market crashes a lot in a short period of time, but that might be the near-term risk for ease-of-use and privacy.

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