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June 08, 2014, 05:34:14 PM
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i find it so weird that russia has been pretty anti bitcoin with its laws and regulations,  yet a news outlet owned by russia promotes bitcion.  Go figure Smiley

I have already posted about this many times. Russia is not anti-Bitcoin. I have many friends in Russia and they have never ever faced any difficulty from the part of the authorities. A number of Bitcoin exchanges and other businesses are currently operating from Russia as well.

I think you're right. Russia is anti-American. Anything that has the potential to fuck up the USA is going to give the Russians a massive boner.

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June 08, 2014, 05:39:00 PM
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i find it so weird that russia has been pretty anti bitcoin with its laws and regulations,  yet a news outlet owned by russia promotes bitcion.  Go figure Smiley

I have already posted about this many times. Russia is not anti-Bitcoin. I have many friends in Russia and they have never ever faced any difficulty from the part of the authorities. A number of Bitcoin exchanges and other businesses are currently operating from Russia as well.

I think you're right. Russia is anti-American. Anything that has the potential to fuck up the USA is going to give the Russians a massive boner.

yes, they promote an negative image against the US gov. The US media in term promotes a negative image of the Russians.

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June 08, 2014, 06:11:30 PM
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i find it so weird that russia has been pretty anti bitcoin with its laws and regulations,  yet a news outlet owned by russia promotes bitcion.  Go figure Smiley

I have already posted about this many times. Russia is not anti-Bitcoin. I have many friends in Russia and they have never ever faced any difficulty from the part of the authorities. A number of Bitcoin exchanges and other businesses are currently operating from Russia as well.

I think you're right. Russia is anti-American. Anything that has the potential to fuck up the USA is going to give the Russians a massive boner.

yes, they promote an negative image against the US gov. The US media in term promotes a negative image of the Russians.


I predict that a major part of the strategy of future conflicts will be to attempt to use a nation's own citizens against them.  It will be an even more key part of future conflicts than it has been in times past.

I further predict that we'll start to recognize a lot of defensive measures put in place to try to thwart this threat.  I suspect that it is a major component of the explosive interest that governments are displaying when it comes to internal population surveillance and social media analysis.

I think that China's biggest mistake is not having been quicker to relax the totalitarian nature of their information control.  This to attempt to build needed credibility among their citizenry as the conflicts pick up steam.  It will be that much easier to induce 'color revolutions' and related efforts when the population is already highly and justifiably suspicious and under strain.  The U.S. has some significant advantage in this respect, but we are burning it quickly with our covert efforts at population manipulation.

The flip side is that if a population is already used to living under overtly totalitarian structures they might be less shaken than a population who is hurriedly forced into them.  Particularly when some of the older crowd remember the propaganda about how 'freedom' was a defining characteristic of our social fabric.  So, it'll be interesting to see how this plays out.

To an increasing extent the U.S.'s advantage is along the lines of Goethe's famous quote:   "None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free."  When these chickens come home to roost I believe that there will be some regrets about our strategies that seem so simple, obvious, and common sense to totalitarian thinkers like our current crop of leadership.  Such a shame.


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June 08, 2014, 06:22:54 PM
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yes, they promote an negative image against the US gov. The US media in term promotes a negative image of the Russians.

The recent events have solidified the propaganda war (especially the conflict in Ukraine). So we can be pretty sure that Putin will give all his support to Bitcoin, in case Obama decides to ban it.  Grin
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June 08, 2014, 06:57:05 PM
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yes, they promote an negative image against the US gov. The US media in term promotes a negative image of the Russians.

The recent events have solidified the propaganda war (especially the conflict in Ukraine). So we can be pretty sure that Putin will give all his support to Bitcoin, in case Obama decides to ban it.  Grin

America won't ban it. That would give in to the Russians. They'll do the same thing they do with everything good. They'll regulate it out of existence.

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June 09, 2014, 04:26:35 AM
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RT is way more reputable than the american main stream media
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It's because of Max Keiser and his influence on them.

It has nothing to do with Russia's view on bitcoin.
Also true.

Long term it doesn't matter anyway. Trying to attack America using Bitcoin is like trying to use targeted biological warfare. Never a smart idea, every plague movie has taught us that shit goes pandemic.

Bitcoin is going pandemic as we speak. No nation-state on this planet will be spared. Iceland may take awhile to crack, though.

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June 09, 2014, 06:05:10 PM
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America won't ban it. That would give in to the Russians. They'll do the same thing they do with everything good. They'll regulate it out of existence.

Then the Russians would invent new methods to make the regulation impossible to achieve. For example, the BTC-E exchange is owned by the Russians and they never ask for any ID documents. They also never cooperate with the American tax authorities. If someone converts his Bitcoins to fiat using BTC-E, the American IRS has no way of knowing it.
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June 09, 2014, 06:44:34 PM
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America won't ban it. That would give in to the Russians. They'll do the same thing they do with everything good. They'll regulate it out of existence.

Then the Russians would invent new methods to make the regulation impossible to achieve. For example, the BTC-E exchange is owned by the Russians and they never ask for any ID documents. They also never cooperate with the American tax authorities. If someone converts his Bitcoins to fiat using BTC-E, the American IRS has no way of knowing it.

But I do wonder why they are not running their operation from mother russia?
If  Russian laws are that bitcoin friendly Smiley


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June 09, 2014, 09:45:54 PM
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America won't ban it. That would give in to the Russians. They'll do the same thing they do with everything good. They'll regulate it out of existence.

Then the Russians would invent new methods to make the regulation impossible to achieve. For example, the BTC-E exchange is owned by the Russians and they never ask for any ID documents. They also never cooperate with the American tax authorities. If someone converts his Bitcoins to fiat using BTC-E, the American IRS has no way of knowing it.

In my opinion, the two country's have entirely different financial systems so Russia would probably keep the information from the IRS as the IRS would keep it hidden from Russia, beneath the surface they are still two old powers that wouldn't share that much information with each other Smiley
Also agree they wouldn't tell the IRS unless they got something worthwhile in exchange.

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June 09, 2014, 09:53:07 PM
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America won't ban it. That would give in to the Russians. They'll do the same thing they do with everything good. They'll regulate it out of existence.

Then the Russians would invent new methods to make the regulation impossible to achieve. For example, the BTC-E exchange is owned by the Russians and they never ask for any ID documents. They also never cooperate with the American tax authorities. If someone converts his Bitcoins to fiat using BTC-E, the American IRS has no way of knowing it.

In my opinion, the two country's have entirely different financial systems so Russia would probably keep the information from the IRS as the IRS would keep it hidden from Russia, beneath the surface they are still two old powers that wouldn't share that much information with each other Smiley
Also agree they wouldn't tell the IRS unless they got something worthwhile in exchange.

Unleash the irony:

Russian officials laugh about the western ban on assets , then they find those guys are breaking the law and with huge amounts  , and now they have no way to enforce the law without the us and Europe help Smiley.


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The Russian president has charged the Central Bank and the government with the task of developing a working scheme allowing enforcement of the ban on civil servants’ and officials’ foreign assets through cooperation with foreign banks.

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Russia’s Financial Ombudsman Pavel Medvedev has assessed the chances of ensuring international cooperation in enforcing the foreign asset ban as extremely low. Medvedev said the program could be feasible if it had been initiated four years ago. This was when the United States was building the network around its Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act, obliging foreign banks to inform US authorities about accounts of US citizens, or even whom they suspect are US citizens or people with ties to the country.






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June 09, 2014, 09:57:04 PM
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America won't ban it. That would give in to the Russians. They'll do the same thing they do with everything good. They'll regulate it out of existence.

Then the Russians would invent new methods to make the regulation impossible to achieve. For example, the BTC-E exchange is owned by the Russians and they never ask for any ID documents. They also never cooperate with the American tax authorities. If someone converts his Bitcoins to fiat using BTC-E, the American IRS has no way of knowing it.

In my opinion, the two country's have entirely different financial systems so Russia would probably keep the information from the IRS as the IRS would keep it hidden from Russia, beneath the surface they are still two old powers that wouldn't share that much information with each other Smiley
Also agree they wouldn't tell the IRS unless they got something worthwhile in exchange.

Don't be so sure. The US buys cooperation from nations around the world, $37,680,000,000 dollars worth of cooperation every year.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/12/19/37680000000-thats-how-much-the-u-s-spends-on-foreign-aid-heres-a-chart-that-helps-explain-it/

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