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July 02, 2014, 06:17:53 AM
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I like the idea but I am quite hesitant to put anything on the line to try it until they have been around a while. I made the mistake once of being the guinea pig and will not do that again.

The Bitcoin stock market is an annoying thing that said they say risk brings reward in this case we have banks not anonymous ones that support the idea and can back it up.

That said it could backfire so it could well be worth just observing for now.

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July 02, 2014, 06:35:48 AM
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Some self-regulation and organisation is definitely what this community needs. Why wait for governments to do it? Exchanges opening themselves up for independent audit would certainly go a long way in establishing trust, which has taken a real big hit lately.
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July 03, 2014, 04:42:28 AM
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The traders pay interest on the loans out of their exchange wallet. It is a way to leverage your balance to get a larger return. Any borrowing in any currency requires repayment of a certain percentage over what you borrowed. Have you ever bought a home? A car? Same thing.

I'm well aware of how trading accounts work, and loans in general.  Thats why i find i it odd anyone thinks this is a killer app for Bitcoin.  

I think they are referring to the ability to stockpile coins and have them actually grow the way fiat used to before the monetary system was destroyed. It creates more demand because holding them is even more profitable.
It should be noted that this would not be without risk. In the event of a market crash/spike then the exchange may not be able to liquidate traders' positions at a rate that would allow them to fully repay their margin loans. The lender would have to take a loss if this were to happen.
QFT.

Increased reward is almost always associated with increased level of risk. Remember that. And don't get too greedy.
This is not 100% true in terms of lending to margin traders as any loan could potentially end up turning bad regardless of the interest rate in relation to the market rate

Has been addressed here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=667105.msg7533611#msg7533611

I would not say this has been "addressed" as in a solution has been found/implemented but rather has been discussed.

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July 03, 2014, 04:50:10 AM
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The traders pay interest on the loans out of their exchange wallet. It is a way to leverage your balance to get a larger return. Any borrowing in any currency requires repayment of a certain percentage over what you borrowed. Have you ever bought a home? A car? Same thing.

I'm well aware of how trading accounts work, and loans in general.  Thats why i find i it odd anyone thinks this is a killer app for Bitcoin.  

I think they are referring to the ability to stockpile coins and have them actually grow the way fiat used to before the monetary system was destroyed. It creates more demand because holding them is even more profitable.
It should be noted that this would not be without risk. In the event of a market crash/spike then the exchange may not be able to liquidate traders' positions at a rate that would allow them to fully repay their margin loans. The lender would have to take a loss if this were to happen.
QFT.

Increased reward is almost always associated with increased level of risk. Remember that. And don't get too greedy.
This is not 100% true in terms of lending to margin traders as any loan could potentially end up turning bad regardless of the interest rate in relation to the market rate

Has been addressed here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=667105.msg7533611#msg7533611

I would not say this has been "addressed" as in a solution has been found/implemented but rather has been discussed.

Right now I wouldn't care about getting interest, just making sure the coins would be safe.  5 years from now, I'd probably want an account giving interest like a bank.
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July 03, 2014, 05:43:37 AM
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Fast forward to today, Draper's purchase and wanting to use it for underserved inflation-prone markets further substantiates the utility of BTC as a savings mechanism.
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July 04, 2014, 11:25:51 AM
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I like the idea but I am quite hesitant to put anything on the line to try it until they have been around a while. I made the mistake once of being the guinea pig and will not do that again.
What happened with you? Have you lost your BTC?
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