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September 03, 2014, 10:37:42 AM
Last edit: September 03, 2014, 10:47:44 AM by herzmeister
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Time Travel Simulation Resolves “Grandfather Paradox”

What would happen to you if you went back in time and killed your grandfather? A model using photons reveals that quantum mechanics can solve the quandary—and even foil quantum cryptography  
  
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/time-travel-simulation-resolves-grandfather-paradox/

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Deutsch's quantum solution to the grandfather paradox works something like this:  
  
Instead of a human being traversing a CTC to kill her ancestor, imagine that a fundamental particle goes back in time to flip a switch on the particle-generating machine that created it. If the particle flips the switch, the machine emits a particle—the particle—back into the CTC; if the switch isn't flipped, the machine emits nothing. In this scenario there is no a priori deterministic certainty to the particle's emission, only a distribution of probabilities. Deutsch's insight was to postulate self-consistency in the quantum realm, to insist that any particle entering one end of a CTC must emerge at the other end with identical properties. Therefore, a particle emitted by the machine with a probability of one half would enter the CTC and come out the other end to flip the switch with a probability of one half, imbuing itself at birth with a probability of one half of going back to flip the switch. If the particle were a person, she would be born with a one-half probability of killing her grandfather, giving her grandfather a one-half probability of escaping death at her hands—good enough in probabilistic terms to close the causative loop and escape the paradox. Strange though it may be, this solution is in keeping with the known laws of quantum mechanics.

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Interesting article, except that I believe it is somewhat misleading whereas particles can react differently in micro vs macro scales. The article admits as much, but then conveniently ignores this fact when it assumes the results of this CTC simulation may be used to resolve the grandfather paradox.

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Hawking and many other physicists find CTCs abhorrent, because any macroscopic object traveling through one would inevitably create paradoxes where cause and effect break down. In a model proposed by the theorist David Deutsch in 1991, however, the paradoxes created by CTCs could be avoided at the quantum scale because of the behavior of fundamental particles, which follow only the fuzzy rules of probability rather than strict determinism. "It's intriguing that you've got general relativity predicting these paradoxes, but then you consider them in quantum mechanical terms and the paradoxes go away," says University of Queensland physicist Tim Ralph. "It makes you wonder whether this is important in terms of formulating a theory that unifies general relativity with quantum mechanics."

In a different experiment when scientists fired photons at a barrier most of the particles would bounce back, yet sometimes they would inexplicably go through. When firing a particle at a barrier with two holes in it the particle seemed to pass through BOTH holes at times. Needless to say, these results have never been observed to happen on a macro scale, effectively throwing a wrench in the works in this new time travel theory regarding the grandfather paradox. Then again, I would assume if one was to build a time travel machine it could simply encase you within a sort of "bubble" which would behave like a micro particle.

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