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June 30, 2014, 10:54:25 PM
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Why legalize? Are bitcoins illegal in us?

Not illegal, but the situation was not entirely clear. So "legalizing" probably not the most accurate term -- more so "regulating"...clarifying the law.

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June 30, 2014, 11:09:39 PM
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Why legalize? Are bitcoins illegal in us?

Not illegal, but the situation was not entirely clear. So "legalizing" probably not the most accurate term -- more so "regulating"...clarifying the law.

that "regulating" part is insanel needed, as none of the real sharks is going to invest into something that could be "banned" the next day.
getting bitcoin some regulations would be the biggest step so far.
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June 30, 2014, 11:11:09 PM
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Why legalize? Are bitcoins illegal in us?

Not illegal, but the situation was not entirely clear. So "legalizing" probably not the most accurate term -- more so "regulating"...clarifying the law.

California had a dumb law which made paying any way other than USD illegal.  Since companies already take foreign currency (near the border) and also gift cards and credit card points and all other manner of non-USD transactions, they changed the law to make it clear that they wouldn't prosecute any of these services and that included bitcoin.

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June 30, 2014, 11:46:26 PM
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Why legalize? Are bitcoins illegal in us?

Not illegal, but the situation was not entirely clear. So "legalizing" probably not the most accurate term -- more so "regulating"...clarifying the law.

California had a dumb law which made paying any way other than USD illegal.  Since companies already take foreign currency (near the border) and also gift cards and credit card points and all other manner of non-USD transactions, they changed the law to make it clear that they wouldn't prosecute any of these services and that included bitcoin.

So, basically US law means nothing, as everyone ignores it anyway.
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July 01, 2014, 02:32:18 AM
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i think the real argument being made by the bears here is that in the world of bitcoin, good news doesn't necessarily travel fast. what i mean by that, is that when ever theres good news these days some see it as omg its happened, I'm late, and some see it as oh ok so its starting to get good....well see what happens. the latter more than the former. with bad news or even neutral news that can be hugely blown out of proportion because of wild conspiracy theories about banks wanting to destroy bitcoin and what not as an investment in their own future monopoly. sorry got off topic there, but the point is, bitcoin good meh, bitcoin bad AHHHHH SELL SELL SELL WTF AHGJGJHDKACCCCCMEHDJ?! you get it? this is not my opinion. i believe that market manipulation by not just one whale was occurring in order to keep panic buying at news of the auction. inflating the spot price,{bear and sellers were happy to clean up the scraps)  which would in some peoples mind, increase their effective bidding range. i think other whales where already in the mindset that this event who be a turn for bitcoin, and have been attempting to position themselves in this fragile market without mass detection for some time. these people are not armchair investors, this is what they do every day, they're the best at what they do. thats why they're rich. they also have this technique called "hedging" its when your making a bet you may not win. so you essentially bet against yourself hoping to offset the cost of the original bet. its not as simple as i put it,but thats what some were doing by spending money to keep the price down long enough to get a suitable position from where they could calculate a return on investment even if they were out bid. guaranteed every interested party with any significant amount of worth in bitcoins has been watching this event, and those who could not bid but had a large interest or amount of money, (I'm sure there are many many more of these people than we think, just in the shadows waiting) have certainly been trying to quietly reposition themselves for the rise. they know how to keep the price down and they know when to unleash the reigns and let the market take its course. i think that moment is approaching.
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July 01, 2014, 02:42:47 AM
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Just a matter of time for progressive state to legalize it.

It makes business sense in California where most the IT companies are.

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July 01, 2014, 02:44:53 AM
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Just a matter of time for progressive state to legalize it.

It makes business sense in California where most the IT companies are.

Yeah i hope bitcoin becomes the main currency in the Silicon valley companies hehe.

http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-bitcoin-atm-20140613-story.html
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July 01, 2014, 02:57:41 AM
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Just a matter of time for progressive state to legalize it.

It makes business sense in California where most the IT companies are.

Yeah i hope bitcoin becomes the main currency in the Silicon valley companies hehe.

http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-bitcoin-atm-20140613-story.html

Holy fark! The Hollywood ATM is 1/2 mile from my house!!!

I eat at that Locali from time to time.

What a weird place for a bitcoin ATM. They should have put it in the Gelsons next door!
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July 01, 2014, 04:03:19 AM
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If Starbucks, Amazon and eBay altogether start to accept bitcoin, this means almost nothing. Just a small fraction of BTC owners will use to buy goods, rest holds and speculates.

Also, all bitcoins will be sold on exchanges, neither Amazon or Starbucks will hold a single BTC for more than 30days.

So this would mean nothing. Maybe some good publicity and bigger sell volumes on exchanges.

People will start using BTC for regular purchases. That means A LOT!!
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July 01, 2014, 04:29:04 AM
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bad news bears?


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July 19, 2014, 06:31:48 AM
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 What the Dell?  Cheesy

Are they doing it for the publicity and a few million in potential sales ? I don't know why they wouldn't.
Transaction savings? What would they save 1-3%? 3-5%?

What could the transaction savings become through the entire supply and manufacture chain? For non wage expense only? For wage and non wage expense?

What of the accounting? Would the blockchain ledger be useful? Could it reduce accounting costs?

Can we add to the list? Assuming these companies are in testing, is there a closing window for near term adoption (pre-holiday)?

-Best buy
-Wall mart
-And of course our good friends at Target.

Store (receipt) and Manufacturer (warranties) are registered/recorded (blockchain) at POS? POS gains second meaning (Point Of Selection?) due to automated checkout? **Potentially adding 2nd generational paradigm reference.** "When I was your age, we walked 5 miles through the snow and had to stand in line to buy things."

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July 19, 2014, 07:59:10 AM
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If Starbucks, Amazon and eBay altogether start to accept bitcoin, this means almost nothing. Just a small fraction of BTC owners will use to buy goods, rest holds and speculates.

So when will this happei heard that dell accept BTC on stuff they sell, Microsoft is mining btc.

What will happen will price goes up or will cash.



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