TX Governor Rick Perry Turns Himself In

[Lethn]

Go fuck yourself American, I'm an Anarchist/Libertarian and I don't fit neatly into your two sided over-simplified political system.

[cinder]

Meanwhile the Governor of NY is twiddling his thumbs while his administrators propose rules on Bitcoin that criminalize behavior of people dealing with Bitcoin if they don't submit to the rules of NY, even though they be located halfway around the world or in another state.

NY can prosecute people halfway around the world? Has this actually happen yet?

[Spendulus]

Meanwhile the Governor of NY is twiddling his thumbs while his administrators propose rules on Bitcoin that criminalize behavior of people dealing with Bitcoin if they don't submit to the rules of NY, even though they be located halfway around the world or in another state.

NY can prosecute people halfway around the world? Has this actually happen yet?

The regulations have not gone into effect yet.  But given the total absolute craziness of what NY is doing here, and the fact that Rick Perry and Texas have explicitly said "No Regulation for Bitcoin" the contrast is so striking that I can't but bring up these comparison facts.

http://techcrunch.com/2014/07/21/new-york-to-bitcoin-startups-get-permission-or-get-out/

So what exactly do the BitLicense regulations cover? Here are some of our (least) favorite things that they would require small startups to do:

    Submit fingerprints of all founders (and employees) to the FBI and disclose personal financial information of founders and officers to NY State.
    Require them to hold an undetermined amount of U.S. dollar funds in bonds or trusts. Startups will not be able to predict the bonding or capitalization requirements until after they apply, making it difficult to project expenses or raise money.
    Conduct expensive audits and security testing that no small startup could afford.
    Hand over any untouched user assets to NY State after five years as “abandoned property.”

Worse, the regulations would require every bitcoin and virtual currency-related startup to get permission from NY state before releasing any new product or service. So yes, if I have a bitcoin technology startup and I want to start selling T-shirts, I would have to get the permission of the state of New York

[Wilikon]

Go fuck yourself American, I'm an Anarchist/Libertarian and I don't fit neatly into your two sided over-simplified political system.

And you are free to express it as much as you want...

[Wilikon]

Presenting Super Perry Troll District Attorney Rosemary Lehmberg
http://youtu.be/x-bj-BLTRRo

Share it if you support Perry  Took me a few minutes to make.

I could never believe people would be foolish enough to defend such a loser, to believe she fits her position... Come on!

[iCEBREAKER]

if you think you lack an ideology, then i probably know more of your ideology than you do. you are basically a libertarian/republican. if you mean i am liberal by the fact that i think man-made pollution is bad, education is good, and that there are real racial tensions in america.. then yes, i am a liberal. i can guarantee you i'm not voting for a democrat in 2016 or any time in the foreseeable future.

I guess what irritates me is that there is this totally manufactured demigod, the PerryMonster.  It has zero relation to reality, and is nothing more than a supervillian in a comic book.  And not even a good one.    Here we're getting a massive influx of people from California and New York.  They are joining the influx from Mexico.

Education is irrelevant because it's largely socialization, and the internet has made expensive books and libraries obsolete.  Racial tensions are being manufactured all the time for political reasons, best thing to do is ignore "the issue they tell you to be concerned about".

What I'm trying to say is that for a fair number of issues, politicizing them is an obstacle to understanding, not an assist.

Perry is a competent and smart administrator as governor.  You don't hear much if any disrespect for him around here.  Clinton was also a competent and smart administrator as governor.  You want a really, really bad POTUS?

Elect one with no business or administrative experience.  Hello, Mr. Bamster.

Perry can't honestly claim responsibility for the healthy Texan economy.  Eagle Ford hydrocarbons did that, not him.  Correlation is not causation.

Because Texas is pro-liberty, they try to keep power from being too centralized in Austin by having a very weak, almost figurehead, Governor.  I do admire his Good Hair and Smart Glasses though.  Credit where credit is due!   

Likewise for Clinton, Billy Bob was not responsible for the economic boom produced by Microsoft, Yahoo, Oracle, Intel, Raytheon, etc.

If anything, Clinton's NAFTA (and aggressive foreign adventures) helped undermine that boom.  Don't forget WalMart and Jackson Stevens own Arkansas, just like they own Hillary.

[Spendulus]

if you think you lack an ideology, then i probably know more of your ideology than you do. you are basically a libertarian/republican. if you mean i am liberal by the fact that i think man-made pollution is bad, education is good, and that there are real racial tensions in america.. then yes, i am a liberal. i can guarantee you i'm not voting for a democrat in 2016 or any time in the foreseeable future.

I guess what irritates me is that there is this totally manufactured demigod, the PerryMonster.  It has zero relation to reality, and is nothing more than a supervillian in a comic book.  And not even a good one.    Here we're getting a massive influx of people from California and New York.  They are joining the influx from Mexico.

Education is irrelevant because it's largely socialization, and the internet has made expensive books and libraries obsolete.  Racial tensions are being manufactured all the time for political reasons, best thing to do is ignore "the issue they tell you to be concerned about".

What I'm trying to say is that for a fair number of issues, politicizing them is an obstacle to understanding, not an assist.

Perry is a competent and smart administrator as governor.  You don't hear much if any disrespect for him around here.  Clinton was also a competent and smart administrator as governor.  You want a really, really bad POTUS?

Elect one with no business or administrative experience.  Hello, Mr. Bamster.

Perry can't honestly claim responsibility for the healthy Texan economy.  Eagle Ford hydrocarbons did that, not him.  ....

But Eagle Ford is Evil Jobs.

It's so unfair.  Guys working on the oil rigs making 80-100 thou.

Why can't they just be happy flipping burgers?

[cinder]

Meanwhile the Governor of NY is twiddling his thumbs while his administrators propose rules on Bitcoin that criminalize behavior of people dealing with Bitcoin if they don't submit to the rules of NY, even though they be located halfway around the world or in another state.

NY can prosecute people halfway around the world? Has this actually happen yet?

The regulations have not gone into effect yet.  But given the total absolute craziness of what NY is doing here, and the fact that Rick Perry and Texas have explicitly said "No Regulation for Bitcoin" the contrast is so striking that I can't but bring up these comparison facts.

http://techcrunch.com/2014/07/21/new-york-to-bitcoin-startups-get-permission-or-get-out/

So what exactly do the BitLicense regulations cover? Here are some of our (least) favorite things that they would require small startups to do:

    Submit fingerprints of all founders (and employees) to the FBI and disclose personal financial information of founders and officers to NY State.
    Require them to hold an undetermined amount of U.S. dollar funds in bonds or trusts. Startups will not be able to predict the bonding or capitalization requirements until after they apply, making it difficult to project expenses or raise money.
    Conduct expensive audits and security testing that no small startup could afford.
    Hand over any untouched user assets to NY State after five years as “abandoned property.”

Worse, the regulations would require every bitcoin and virtual currency-related startup to get permission from NY state before releasing any new product or service. So yes, if I have a bitcoin technology startup and I want to start selling T-shirts, I would have to get the permission of the state of New York

Does this mean we can start bitcoin business in Texas without having to comply to NY bitlicense?

[Spendulus]

Meanwhile the Governor of NY is twiddling his thumbs while his administrators propose rules on Bitcoin that criminalize behavior of people dealing with Bitcoin if they don't submit to the rules of NY, even though they be located halfway around the world or in another state.

NY can prosecute people halfway around the world? Has this actually happen yet?

The regulations have not gone into effect yet.  But given the total absolute craziness of what NY is doing here, and the fact that Rick Perry and Texas have explicitly said "No Regulation for Bitcoin" the contrast is so striking that I can't but bring up these comparison facts.

http://techcrunch.com/2014/07/21/new-york-to-bitcoin-startups-get-permission-or-get-out/

So what exactly do the BitLicense regulations cover? Here are some of our (least) favorite things that they would require small startups to do:

    Submit fingerprints of all founders (and employees) to the FBI and disclose personal financial information of founders and officers to NY State.
    Require them to hold an undetermined amount of U.S. dollar funds in bonds or trusts. Startups will not be able to predict the bonding or capitalization requirements until after they apply, making it difficult to project expenses or raise money.
    Conduct expensive audits and security testing that no small startup could afford.
    Hand over any untouched user assets to NY State after five years as “abandoned property.”

Worse, the regulations would require every bitcoin and virtual currency-related startup to get permission from NY state before releasing any new product or service. So yes, if I have a bitcoin technology startup and I want to start selling T-shirts, I would have to get the permission of the state of New York

Does this mean we can start bitcoin business in Texas without having to comply to NY bitlicense?

It means Texas does not require any regulation for those engaging in bitcoin business.  I believe that the NY regulation could be handled by something like this, on, say the order page of a website:

Price  10.00
Shipping 5.95
Total  15.95

Method of payment:

MC/Visa
AE
Paypal
Bitcoin (NOT available in NY)

Or like the entry page on porn sites:

Are you over 18   ____ Yes ____ No

Here it would be

Are you a resident of NY _____ Yes ____ No