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Question: Will he run?
No, they won't run and just say, "we're working on it" even if it's not possible to fix to long con people - 32 (33.7%)
Yes, flee to Russia - 17 (17.9%)
Yes, flee to Argentina - 10 (10.5%)
Go into hiding and change name to something like Butalik Viterin - 36 (37.9%)
Total Voters: 95

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March 20, 2016, 12:58:02 AM
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So you've concluded that those projects will be abandoned before release as there's no way to get them to work?

I am guessing they will release them but they will be plagued by non-adoption and to the extent their is significant ETH in play, they will be attacked either to steal ETH or short ETH and crash the ETH price.

I am expecting a centralized clusterfuck (much more dire than Bitcoin's current scalepocalypse) originally marketed as decentralized nirvana.

Of course it is also possible it could unravel before that and they abandon with their tail between their legs, but I doubt this because one assumes they raised more $millions in the recent pump.

The chance of them solving the underlying insoluble fundamental flaws is nil. There is no way to do sharding of smart contracts without breaking the Nash equilibrium that creates a majority consensus instead of many competing forks. There is no way to arrive at consensus of off-chain events without delegating consensus to trusted centralized entities. It is a huge clusterfuck that Vitalik weaved.

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March 20, 2016, 02:24:03 AM
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Funny to see the BTC Maximalists lose their shit over ETH.

One could argue ETH is not overpriced, rather its Bitcoin that is underpriced. But hey, Bitcoin is having trouble expanding because it is run by a cartel that is snakier than the Saudi Royal Family.

I agree.  I think Bitcoin is undervalued therefore ETH appears to be "close" to btc in value.  When price suppression is over it may look like a different landscape.

To OP, why would Vitalik need to flee? What is the scam?

I love Bitcoin
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March 20, 2016, 02:34:17 AM
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BTW - Here is a link that confirms "A rumor has been circulated recently that VB almost came to work for Ripple"
https://youtu.be/fbEtivJIfIU?t=11m7s

Listening forward to the end of the 15th minute, will if you are solid senior level software engineer with a strong economics expertise, start to make you realize that Vitalik is an unrealistic dreamer who doesn't think out the real world insolubility of his childish fantasies.

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March 20, 2016, 06:50:04 AM
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ETH might be a tech clusterfuck that can't work as advertised, but what's stopping VB converting the community of devs and supporters into something similar that does. I owned some bitcoins in Jan 2014 that I burnt into counterparty. If ETH is doomed they'll burn it into something else, why? coz they're all in the same boat. It might be a ponzi for years existing on fumes & promises, but that's exactly what bitcoin started as

edit @TPTB, please call me an idiot,


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March 20, 2016, 07:27:34 AM
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@TPTB_need_war
You want to OWN this noob shill account or should i ?

Hey guess what everyone.. Ethereum is just like Bitcoin !

Except well.. it's NOT  Cheesy

-Was Bitcoin a scammy launched IPO ?
-Was BTC open source ?
-Was BTC intended to be a CURRENCY ?
-Was BTC needed ?

Hey i got a great idea.. go create another account and say "Bitcoin is like Ethereum"

By the way Bitcoin has not been doing too shit hot as it is so you might want to pick a better comparison.
it never has gone back to $1,000 a coin and the ATM store front in my Town was closed 2 years ago
and every single person i ever talk to on the street is shocked to hear "Bitcoin is still a thing"

Funny thing is, those people i talk to even after having bitcoin explained to them endlessly
from all kinds of different source for ages.. they STILL don't get what it is !

So by all means..
Go find those same people and convince them they need a scammy pumped & dumped "DAPPS" digital IPO token.
It's funny because you guys could not come close to convincing us ETH "App's " are needed..
So i have no bloody idea how you think your going to convince the public.
Start by asking them for their CC number to buy ETH "tokens' online hahahha

I seen a guy with an advertisement on his web site for "Paypal"
Guess what i said ?
"Paypal the safe & easy way to send money"

Now my little wannabee backyard-mechanic mensa geniuses tell me..
What do think the general public "values" ? (based on that advertisement)

Before Crypto existed they Already heard a lot about fraud etc on Computers.

FUD first & ask questions later™
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March 20, 2016, 01:23:51 PM
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Listening forward to the end of the 15th minute, will if you are solid senior level software engineer with a strong economics expertise, start to make you realize that Vitalik is an unrealistic dreamer who doesn't think out the real world insolubility of his childish fantasies.


Maybe you are too logical... What is an unrealistic dreamer?

“Imagination is more important than knowledge...

I am extremely creative (did you not look at CoolPage.com or Corel Painter on which I created or worked on as a programmer and graphic artist). How about my essays[1]. How about the print ads I did for WordUp which I also programmed. The difference is I am a realistic dreamer with a realistic plan who has proven I make products that end up used by millions. Vitalik lacks the realistic grounding (and no experience!) to choose viable goals and implement them effectively. What a horrible destruction of a math nerd to allow him to enter this fantasy world where he can sell childish, unrealistic fantasy technobabble to gullible speculator n00bs.

[1]http://unheresy.com/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355212.0
http://web.archive.org/web/20140225115821/http://www.coolpagehelp.com/index.html?row2col2=developer.html

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