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May 14, 2013, 12:47:57 AM
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I can't create an account if I don't participate in social media?

What the fiddly fuck is this shit?
This. I like the whole gyft idea, but WTF is up with that social media crap all the time Sad

Exploiting social media by making all your customers friend/like/follow/buddy/whatevs you seems to be the latest Big Idea in marketing and CRM.

Try advancing a concept like Bitcoin without the use of social media. The bitch has turned into an evil necessity.
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May 15, 2013, 09:53:02 PM
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Honestly I've yet to use qr codes in a practical everyday life sort of way (yet).

Lemme get this straight, you're posting on a bitcoin forum, claiming QR codes have no practical use?

Troll harder, buddy.

Or join the herd.  Ducks are easily herded.

Did  I say that they have no practical use? So let me get this straight, you're posting on a bitcoin forum, with no reading comprehension skills and a propensity for elitism? Yeah that actually sounds about right so never mind.
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June 06, 2013, 12:27:24 AM
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Let's count the ways:

1. They sell "gift cards" that can't be transferred to somebody who hasn't installed their app.

False. There is a web wallet.


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2. Their app asks for an unbelievable number of unnecessary permissions from your phone.

It is because the app allows you to send video messages, according to the creator on reddit.

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3. They only let you use it on a mobile phone registered to a US cellular network (aka stingray compatible).

I can't confirm this or find anything contrary to it


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4. Visit the website with private browsing enabled and the site blocks you out with a message saying "This app does not support private browsing. Please turn it off and try again." (this is their website, not their app).  And that's just private browsing -- forget about anything like Tor.

False, just tried it now and logged in as well in private.

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5. They insist on friending you on the facebooks or googling you or tweetering at you before you can use their service.

Perhaps this was true at one point, but isn't the case anymore. Sounds dumb if it were true!


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6. FINCEN just made a big stink about gift cards (which are convertible virtual currencies and therefore unambiguously subject to FIN-2013-G001) being exchanged without a "paper trail", putting a bunch of giftcard-for-bitcoin businesses, (many of which were bitpay customers), out of business.

Those giftcard-for-bitcoin businesses had many other illegalities about them. Most of them were simply reselling purchased cards and not using APIs to generate them. Others had other exchanges. Cite examples though.


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And BOOM this company nobody's heard of before, with a product that is a solution-looking-for-a-problem (who wants gift cards that are worthless without a smartphone? what's wrong with QR codes?) flies out of Jen Calvery's ass.

Isn't the case anymore, can use a web interface. So what's your new argument?

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It's not a conspiracy, since that requires actual deception or secrecy.  Instead, you're simply being herded.

If everything you're saying were true, they could still be herding a bunch of false accounts... oh no, they're going to follow a facebook account? Laff...



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June 06, 2013, 01:25:17 AM
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June 06, 2013, 03:33:57 AM
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I don't think it's a honeypot, but I don't think it is any different from other small businesses accepting bitcoin.
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June 06, 2013, 09:03:08 AM
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HONEYPOT!
DOUBLE HONEYPOT!!

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June 06, 2013, 11:52:22 AM
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This is a bit OT*, but the laziness of today's EULAs, TOS & privacy statements is getting absurd.  
If it's not enough that all contain "TO THE EXTENT NOT PROHIBITED BY LAW, IN NO EVENT WILL GYFT BE LIABLE [for anything EVAR!]" disclaimers, these legalese-sounding webpages aren't even proofed before being published ("Please refer to our Terms of Sale [Add hyperlink to Terms of Sale] for the terms, conditions and policies ...")!  If people who write these things don't read them, do they really expect anyone else to?
And, of course, if
Code:
order deny,allow
deny from all
wasn't enough, we get more fail:

"IN NO EVENT WILL GYFT'S TOTAL LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, WARRANTY, TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE, WHETHER ACTIVE, PASSIVE OR IMPUTED), PRODUCT LIABILITY, STRICT LIABILITY OR OTHER THEORY, ARISING OUT OF OR RELATING TO THE USE OF OR INABILITY TO USE THE APP EXCEED THE FEE FOR THE APP (AS OPPOSED TO ANY OTHER FEES/COSTS INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, ANY FEES ASSOCIATED WITH YOUR DEVICE, THE COST TO PURCHASE AND OPERATE YOUR DEVICE, THE COST OF ANY GIFT CARDS OR THE COST OF ANY PRODUCTS OR SERVICES PURCHASED WITH A GIFT CARD)."**

Yep, i get it.  "We're not liable for anything.  If logic fails, Gyft's liability shall not exceed the cost of this app.  Which is $0.  Thank you & good luck!"

**The "cap lock = cruise control for cool" obviously holds in legalese, meaning something like "We've seen other companies do this, so we ctrl C/Ctrl V'd it.  Nobody reads this shit, we certainly didn't, and we don't expect you to, either. Nevertheless, we wish to punctuate how damn important this is with our cap lock key."
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June 06, 2013, 01:40:06 PM
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Meh. I think it's good that Gyft is aggressively embracing bitcoin.

Last thing we need are lynch mobs with their torches and pitchforks going after every company that decides to jump on the bitcoin train.
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June 06, 2013, 02:08:25 PM
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Meh. I think it's good that Gyft is aggressively embracing bitcoin.

Last thing we need are lynch mobs with their torches and pitchforks going after every company that decides to jump on the bitcoin train.
+1. As long as they accept bitcoin, it shouldn't be too bad.

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