doge-dice.com & HolyDİCE.COM examination

[peer]

Dooglus -- > https://doge-dice.com/
These websites owners or employees

https://just-dice.com/

http://www.holydice.com/
It disparaged this website

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=952183.0;all
But, why?

Why Dooglus disparage people?
The member crossed the line and wrote a comment for Holydice:


https://i.imgur.com/rFppP2u.png
I've read the whole subject
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=952183.0;all

Dooglus said, Holydice is a crook and it's cheating
------so, is Holydice really a crook and does cheating?

I've checked the Holydice game flow:

1- Holydice doesn't produce lucky numbers and it all constructed on HASH produced by BITCOIN network
does 0% house
Holydice doesn't do tricks in anyway.

It's a simple game, HASH produces the BITCOIN network in your money transmission by any choice that Holydice address makes and you have to know that if it's an odd or even number of the ace's first and last digit.
---------------  In this case Dooglus lying, he's the cheater one.

2- I've checked all the accounts:

https://blockchain.info/address/1KFjeZnh2wSP1Ua2Pz3gquLhDVkbeHV3ct
https://blockchain.info/address/1MLqzvzSa5hBUWsmHUPQtYsSavoEByjUVg
https://blockchain.info/address/1BJ4akHyKGSj1AfomPbcaHwbqQsGpqknLs
https://blockchain.info/address/1MLqzvzSa5hBUWsmHUPQtYsSavoEByjUVg

It paid all of it's payments
------- Yes, Dooglus's lyning, slandering.
There're no codes in Holydice to produce the lucky numbers to cheating.


1-What about Dooglus's website? https://just-dice.com/
2- Yes, it produces the lucky numbers, you have to trust that he's not cheating.
3-Closed source, he can cheat.
4- https://just-dice.com/

------look-in-> %33
------payment - 3 x
In a football match you've got %33 chance of  winning an the ticket it gave:
Example:

Girona - Sporting Gijon -- (1)2.20 (0)2.90 (2)2.50


Girona --> 1 dollar - coupon

Tie-> 1 dollar - coupon

Sporting Gijon -> 1 dollar - coupon



I've paid 3 dollars for 3 tickets in total, only one of them wins and I lose.



---------just-dice.com There're two possibilities:

1- It comes a small number than the number I've picked

2- It comes a big number than the number I've picked



I pick a number between 1 to 100

% 33

Payment: 3

So, in order to I win, the number of just-dice.com produces is have to be under 33.



With these 2 possibilities I shouldn't lose money in this game, I should always win.

In this case just-dice.com should be out of pocket and collapse.



In conclusion in order to just-dice.com wins, it needs  to cheat

-------------------------------

Holydice can't give a rate above 1.05, because it'd collapse.



My choice is Holydice.com

Yes, the rate is low : 1.503
 
But, it's honest, transparent, and you can see the game result in your wallet immediately. No cheat.

You can prefer just-dice.com for losing and cheats.

It's your choice.http://

[havecoch]

What are you a casino hater. He doesn't post negative trust ratings just because he thinks someone is wrong.

[Jarx]

Another alt account of @holydice & @nazim ..

[omahapoker]

you know you be on to somethin :-\g.







that dooglus dude is from canada. that is a red flag right there(red and white)

[Joca97]

dooglus wouldent just give negative trust for no reason

he had a reason so he is allowed to give negative trust i would do the same!!

he has proof

[dooglus]

Dooglus -- > https://doge-dice.com/
These websites owners or employees

https://just-dice.com/

http://www.holydice.com/
It disparaged this website

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=952183.0;all
But, why?

Why Dooglus disparage people?
The member crossed the line and wrote a comment for Holydice:



I've read the whole subject
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=952183.0;all

Dooglus said, Holydice is a crook and it's cheating
------so, is Holydice really a crook and does cheating?

I've checked the Holydice game flow:

1- Holydice doesn't produce lucky numbers and it all constructed on HASH produced by BITCOIN network
does 0% house
Holydice doesn't do tricks in anyway.

It's a simple game, HASH produces the BITCOIN network in your money transmission by any choice that Holydice address makes and you have to know that if it's an odd or even number of the ace's first and last digit.
---------------  In this case Dooglus lying, he's the cheater one.

2- I've checked all the accounts:

https://blockchain.info/address/1KFjeZnh2wSP1Ua2Pz3gquLhDVkbeHV3ct
https://blockchain.info/address/1MLqzvzSa5hBUWsmHUPQtYsSavoEByjUVg
https://blockchain.info/address/1BJ4akHyKGSj1AfomPbcaHwbqQsGpqknLs
https://blockchain.info/address/1MLqzvzSa5hBUWsmHUPQtYsSavoEByjUVg

It paid all of it's payments
------- Yes, Dooglus's lyning, slandering.
There're no codes in Holydice to produce the lucky numbers to cheating.


1-What about Dooglus's website? https://just-dice.com/
2- Yes, it produces the lucky numbers, you have to trust that he's not cheating.
3-Closed source, he can cheat.
4- https://just-dice.com/

------look-in-> %33
------payment - 3 x
In a football match you've got %33 chance of  winning an the ticket it gave:
Example:

Girona - Sporting Gijon -- (1)2.20 (0)2.90 (2)2.50


Girona --> 1 dollar - coupon

Tie-> 1 dollar - coupon

Sporting Gijon -> 1 dollar - coupon



I've paid 3 dollars for 3 tickets in total, only one of them wins and I lose.



---------just-dice.com There're two possibilities:

1- It comes a small number than the number I've picked

2- It comes a big number than the number I've picked



I pick a number between 1 to 100

% 33

Payment: 3

So, in order to I win, the number of just-dice.com produces is have to be under 33.



With these 2 possibilities I shouldn't lose money in this game, I should always win.

In this case just-dice.com should be out of pocket and collapse.



In conclusion in order to just-dice.com wins, it needs  to cheat

-------------------------------

Holydice can't give a rate above 1.05, because it'd collapse.



My choice is Holydice.com

Yes, the rate is low : 1.503
 
But, it's honest, transparent, and you can see the game result in your wallet immediately. No cheat.

You can prefer just-dice.com for losing and cheats.

It's your choice.

I still can't tell whether you're dumb or just trolling.

When a site is giving you payouts of  2.20x 2.90x 2.50x for the 3 possible results, their house edge is:

>>> 100 * (1 - 1 / (1.0/2.2 + 1.0/2.9 + 1.0/2.5))
16.623%

To compare that with Just-Dice, we can split the 100% into 3 ranges: 33%, 33%, 34%. The payouts are:

3x 3x 2.91176471x

and the house edge is:

>>> 100 * (1 - 1 / (1/3.0 + 1/3.0 + 1.0/2.91176471))
1%

So Just-Dice has a 1% house edge. The sports book you're looking at has a 16.6% house edge in the example you posted. And your site isn't really even a gambling game because the players can decide whether they win or lose by generating their own transactions.

1- Holydice doesn't produce lucky numbers and it all constructed on HASH produced by BITCOIN network
does 0% house

There are your two main problems:

1) the hash isn't produced by the bitcoin network; it is produced by the client on the player's machine. The player can generated as many hashes as he likes and only broadcast the winning ones.

2) you don't know what "house edge" means, so how can you claim your game "does 0% house"?

[Rammus]

I didnt know dogedice was still going though.. most are back on just-dice.

[dooglus]

I still can't tell whether you're dumb or just trolling.

I think dumb. They actually paid me out, what the hell?

Be careful. The "double your bitcoin" guys pay out at first too.

He could be trying to build confidence by playing dumb in the hope that you get greedy and increase your stake so he can steal it.

[Snorek]

Op why troll with a newbie account .,You should do it with your main account.

Well, he was not trolling. He was stating his points in 'no trolling' manner in my opinion. But you are right, he should used his main account to resolve matters like that. The reason he did not do that just add more suspicions to the case.

[dooglus]

Well, he was not trolling. He was stating his points in 'no trolling' manner in my opinion. But you are right, he should used his main account to resolve matters like that. The reason he did not do that just add more suspicions to the case.

It's pretty obvious to me that it's the same guy. He demonstrates the same lack of logic, mathematical ability, and language skills as the other two accounts that defend his "game".

The logic appears to be "Just-Dice offers 1% edge. There's no way that can be profitable unless they cheat. We offer 0%".

What's the logical conclusion there? They claim to have a smaller edge than a site that has to cheat to survive...

[peer]

            
            result

just-dice.com   have tricks

sample code

Code:

<?php


if (!isset($included)) exit();

if (isset($_POST['s_title'])) {
  if (!empty($_POST['s_title']) && !empty($_POST['s_url']) && !empty($_POST['s_desc']) && !empty($_POST['cur']) && !empty($_POST['cur_s']) && isset($_POST['bet_fr_players']) && is_numeric((int)$_POST['bet_fr_players']) && isset($_POST['bet_fr_bots']) && is_numeric((int)$_POST['bet_fr_bots']) && isset($_POST['house_edge']) && is_numeric((double)$_POST['house_edge']) && isset($_POST['min_withdrawal']) && is_numeric((double)$_POST['min_withdrawal']) && isset($_POST['txfee']) && is_numeric((double)$_POST['txfee']) && isset($_POST['bankroll_maxbet_ratio']) && is_numeric((double)$_POST['bankroll_maxbet_ratio'])) {
    echo '<div class="zpravagreen"><b>Success!</b> Data was successfuly saved.</div>';  
  }
  else {
    echo '<div class="zpravared"><b>Error!</b> One of fields is empty.</div>';
  }
}

?>

<h1>Settings</h1>
<br>
<form action="./?p=settings" method="post">
  <table>
    <tr>
      <td>Active Theme:</td>
      <td>
        <select name="acttheme">
          <?php
            $tdir=opendir('../themes/');
            while (false!==($ctheme=readdir($tdir))) {
              $ifselected='';
              if ($ctheme=='.' || $ctheme=='..') continue;
              if (file_exists('../themes/'.$ctheme.'/main.css') && file_exists('../themes/'.$ctheme.'/frontpage.php'))
                if ($ctheme==$settings['activeTheme']) $ifselected=' selected="selected"';
                echo '<option value="'.$ctheme.'"'.$ifselected.'>'.$ctheme."\r\n";
            }
          ?>
        </select>
      </td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td style="width: 180px;">Site Title:</td>
      <td style="width: 200px;"><input type="text" name="s_title" value="<?php echo $settings['title']; ?>"></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td>Site URL:</td>
      <td><input type="text" name="s_url" value="<?php echo $settings['url']; ?>"></td>
      <td><small><i>Without <b>http://</b>.</i></small></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td>Site Description:</td>
      <td><input type="text" name="s_desc" value="<?php echo $settings['description']; ?>"></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td>Currency:</td>
      <td><input type="text" name="cur" value="<?php echo $settings['currency']; ?>"></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td>Currency Sign:</td>
      <td><input type="text" name="cur_s" value="<?php echo $settings['currency_sign']; ?>"></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td>Bet freq. (players):</td>
      <td><input title="0 = unlimited" type="text" name="bet_fr_players" value="<?php echo $settings['rolls_mintime']; ?>"> ms</td>
      <td><small><i>Minimal pause between bets in <b>millisecons</b>.</i></small></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td>Bet freq. (bots):</td>
      <td><input title="0 = unlimited" type="text" name="bet_fr_bots" value="<?php echo $settings['rolls_mintime_bB']; ?>"> ms</td>
      <td><small><i>Minimal pause between bets in <b>millisecons</b>.</i></small></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td>House edge:</td>
      <td><input type="text" name="house_edge" value="<?php echo $settings['house_edge']; ?>"> %</td>
      <td><small><i>Your approximate profit from total wagered amount.</i></small></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td>Minimal withdrawal:</td>
      <td><input type="text" name="min_withdrawal" value="<?php echo $settings['min_withdrawal']; ?>"> <?php echo $settings['currency_sign']; ?></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td>Transaction fee</td>
      <td><input type="text" name="txfee" value="<?php $infofee=$wallet->getinfo(); echo $infofee['paytxfee']; ?>"> <?php echo $settings['currency_sign']; ?></td>
      <td><small><i>Transaction fee to <?php echo $settings['currency']; ?> network.</i></small></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td>Bankroll/max bet ratio</td>
      <td><input type="text" name="bankroll_maxbet_ratio" value="<?php echo $settings['bankroll_maxbet_ratio']; ?>"></td>
      <td><small><i>The default ratio between amount in wallet and max available bet is set to 25. So for example if you want to allow players to bet 1 <?php echo $settings['currency_sign']; ?>, you have to have 25 <?php echo $settings['currency_sign']; ?> in wallet.</i></small></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td></td>
      <td><input type="submit" value="Save"></td>
    </tr>
  </table>
</form>