Indefinite Life: Relative Immortality

[Indefinitely]

I've taken quite an interest in the prolonging of Life, perhaps indefinitely and through either; biological, digital, or mechanical means. This would mean a state of relative immortality for all organic beings(There are already some animals that have "indefinite lives" such as a species of jellyfish and worm).

So my question is, who would be interested in prolonging their life indefinitely, assuming you will forever be in your physical and mental prime and/or beyond?

http://www.livescience.com/6967-hang-25-year-wait-immortality.html

[picolo]

I've taken quite an interest in the prolonging of Life, perhaps indefinitely and through either; biological, digital, or mechanical means. This would mean a state of relative immortality for all organic beings(There are already some animals that have "indefinite lives" such as a species of jellyfish and worm).

So my question is, who would be interested in prolonging their life indefinitely, assuming you will forever be in your physical and mental prime and/or beyond?

http://www.livescience.com/6967-hang-25-year-wait-immortality.html

Most people would. You need to be able to replace organes, skin ect. And eating very healthy foods or maybe only pills may be a way to delay death.

[Bizmark13]

Aubrey de Grey is definitely the one to follow if you're interested in this type of stuff. There is also a forum called Longecity where people discuss radical life extension and strategies to combat aging. You might also be interested in Kurzweil's thoughts on the Singularity too. In his books, he talks about the accelerating rate of technological progress and the convergence of biology, computer science, and nanotechnology:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Kurzweil

Finally, there is also cryonics which can serve as a backup plan. There are two providers in this field - Alcor and the Cryonics Institute.

[nsimmons]

Quality of life has strong correlations to mitochondrial function and density. Investigate methods to improve these and investigate electron transport chain decoupling to reduce oxidation.



Here is a list of references...

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Faloon, William, "Our Aging Mitochondria," Life Extension, February 2011, pp. 7-13.

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[Gronthaing]

Your physical body is irrelevant ..
Longevity is all about preserving your brain/soul in a more permanent package ..
Soon, we'll all have the option of becoming "Data" ..
Android body loaded with your brain/soul ..

Triff .. 

But would that android really be you? It would behave like you. It would have the same memories. But let's say the process isn't destructive. Both your original body and mind remain and a number of androids can then be built. Are you all of them?

[nsimmons]

Your physical body is irrelevant ..
Longevity is all about preserving your brain/soul in a more permanent package ..
Soon, we'll all have the option of becoming "Data" ..
Android body loaded with your brain/soul ..

Triff .. 

But would that android really be you? It would behave like you. It would have the same memories. But let's say the process isn't destructive. Both your original body and mind remain and a number of androids can then be built. Are you all of them?

I have considered this, and even with current attempts at quantum teleportation, only a copy is created, the original is destroyed. Unless my brain is in the android, it's not me. I have also read about nano bots slowly replacing cells until the entire structure is electronic. In that case, I think an argument could be made that the person is still intact.

[erre]

I think that the answers resides in telometers .

But being immortal would be boring as fuck...a lot of suicides I guess.

[nsimmons]

I think that the answers resides in telometers .

Yes I agree, but there isn't much a person can do about that.

[Lauda]

But would that android really be you? It would behave like you. It would have the same memories. But let's say the process isn't destructive. Both your original body and mind remain and a number of androids can then be built. Are you all of them?

I have considered this, and even with current attempts at quantum teleportation, only a copy is created, the original is destroyed. Unless my brain is in the android, it's not me. I have also read about nano bots slowly replacing cells until the entire structure is electronic. In that case, I think an argument could be made that the person is still intact.

I think that for now, we can't really know. Even when we learn how to do this, the simulations and theories might be wrong.
We will know, once we test it on people.

We don't even really know what makes 'us' us, nor how do we experience existence.

[erre]

I think that the answers resides in telometers .

Yes I agree, but there isn't much a person can do about that.

You can augment the expression of telomerase, and I suppose there could be ways trought nanotechnology, but... why? Earth population is already elder, expecially in the first world,and resources are limited. I don't want strict birth control and a world of eldres, being the only immortal could be fun for some centuries, but a world of immortals (or just really old people) sucks.

[Gronthaing]

Your physical body is irrelevant ..
Longevity is all about preserving your brain/soul in a more permanent package ..
Soon, we'll all have the option of becoming "Data" ..
Android body loaded with your brain/soul ..

Triff .. 

But would that android really be you? It would behave like you. It would have the same memories. But let's say the process isn't destructive. Both your original body and mind remain and a number of androids can then be built. Are you all of them?

I have considered this, and even with current attempts at quantum teleportation, only a copy is created, the original is destroyed. Unless my brain is in the android, it's not me. I have also read about nano bots slowly replacing cells until the entire structure is electronic. In that case, I think an argument could be made that the person is still intact.

Reminds me of the ship of Theseus. If they then take your cells and build another you, who are you?
Anyway, it is then a matter of how the transition is made? If it is gradual and you are aware of the process, does more of you remain at the end? An android built and programmed to be you isn't you I think. But I can see how if you live through the replacement process and adapt to your new reality, it could be you at the end.









http://imgur.com/gallery/HjF2P

[bitparadise]

It is my dream that humans will leave forever someday. But I don't want to be a living robot or "data". But I want to live forever as organic/physical form like my body today. My only dream is someday scientists will discover a way to cure aging. Aging is a disease that affects all of us it must be cured.

[username18333]

I prefer the succession of humanity to the persistence of that futility.

[picolo]

It is my dream that humans will leave forever someday. But I don't want to be a living robot or "data". But I want to live forever as organic/physical form like my body today. My only dream is someday scientists will discover a way to cure aging. Aging is a disease that affects all of us it must be cured.

At first your mind could be in a computer and in a while they will be able to give you a physical form.