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March 03, 2015, 05:08:29 PM
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Anyone got a critique of this, or have an article that would be of interest? Thanks

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March 03, 2015, 05:15:35 PM
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Anyone got a critique of this, or have an article that would be of interest? Thanks

Damn, I wish I could help, but I have no such info at my disposal.

Quick aside: I bet somebody could make a killing if they invented some sort of search thingy for the internet so that when somebody has a question all they would have to do is search for it. Then again, that may be an impossibility, for I'm willing to bet that there's about 10100 questions that could be asked.
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March 03, 2015, 05:17:55 PM
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Anyone got a critique of this, or have an article that would be of interest? Thanks

Damn, I wish I could help, but I have no such info at my disposal.

Quick aside: I bet somebody could make a killing if they invented some sort of search thingy for the internet so that when somebody has a question all they would have to do is search for it. Then again, that may be an impossibility, for I'm willing to bet that there's about 10100 questions that could be asked.

And there are probably 10100 answers for each question, so that nobody would have any idea if the top answer on the list was the right one or not.

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March 03, 2015, 05:23:46 PM
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Is it ICO scam or bob coin?
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March 03, 2015, 05:29:17 PM
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Maidsafe is a good idea. It may be more difficult to implement that was previously thought. The evidence for this is the time that it is taking to get the thing moving. But, we have another problem with Internet.

Was it the week before last that the cell towers in Northeastern Arizona went down? Who knows the truth of it, but the cell phone companies claim that it was sabotage. It seems that somebody in a remote part of Arizona, a place where the optical fiber cable is buried, actually used a backhoe to dig up the cable, and then a hacksaw to cut the cable itself.

Who knows if it was for real sabotage, or if it was simply a test, to see how people would react. But the point is, something like Maidsafe might push government spy groups like the NSA into doing actual sabotage like this simply to maintain some kind of control over a much freer people.

People ARE becoming freer. People are throwing off the shackles of others who want to keep them chained in slavery. Maidsafe IS a step in the right direction. But it isn't something that will be the answer to all our Internet woes, even if it works out perfectly, in the way it is designed to.

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March 03, 2015, 06:34:20 PM
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Wow that is taking threat modeling to an almost existential level.

Making a more secure internet and decentralizing another core element won't - for example - stop the sun from blowing up. Cheesy

I wouldn't worry about government entities attacking the internet's infrastructure. It actually seems like the genuinely constructive members of our species are more commonly out-pacing those weighed down by the size of the institutions they work for. As tech advances, our ability to be held back diminishes. Crude "cure all's" (from their perspective) are basically unusable. (i.e destroying the internet, dropping nukes etc).

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March 03, 2015, 07:00:29 PM
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However, since many of these threats are happening around the world, and since many of them have happened, the people to whom they happened didn't understand them as threats. They understood them as happenings.

The people of Arizona who lost their communications for that day or so, received a small taste of what things could be like on a larger scale. It wasn't a threat. It was REAL for them. And because it was real for them, it could be real for anybody else, as well.

The point isn't the idea of a threat. The point is about wisdom. It is wise to prepare for things that happen, even if those happenings are threats to some of the people while they are happenings to other of the people.

Maidsafe might be a protection. But another thing we need is a totally independent, decentralized communications network. If we don't have decentralized communications, the Arizona incident showed that decentralized Internet may not mean much at all.

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March 03, 2015, 07:14:57 PM
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Mesh networking? The problem you're describing comes being reliant on wires correct?

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March 03, 2015, 08:11:00 PM
Last edit: March 03, 2015, 08:27:21 PM by BADecker
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Mesh networking? The problem you're describing comes being reliant on wires correct?

Mesh networking is an idea that needs development. Part of the developing has to do with legal freedom to use unlimited mesh "broadcasting." With more and more technologically advanced electronics, digitization of more and more intermediate bands is becoming a greater reality on a regular basis. Soon, the legal governing system won't have any reason to keep people from using personal, million watt transmitters, because they will be able to do such without interloping on the legal or off-limit bands.

The problem with mesh will still be interference, if the mesh is broadcast, that is. There may come a time when antennas will be directional "MASER" type and style, that will act unit to unit in a predetermined contact base. Something like this would be very difficult to interrupt without something like a complete EMP blast of some kind. However, EMP protection is available right now, and an EMP blast recovery could be fast, faster than the Arizona cable-cut rebuild.

Another, possibly even greater threat is, electrical grid failure. The advantage of MASER mesh is that power could actually be supplied from one generator, via MASER antennas, to the other members of the mesh. However, personal electrical generation would be preferable.

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EDIT: Just a note. Masers are not things that we have little knowledge of. Standard microwave ovens are closed, low-power masers. Aligning two microwave ovens to face each other with open doors, say rooftop to rooftop, could transfer all kinds of high-frequency electronic signals between the two with little chance of interferrence. Properly aligned and focused, power can actually be transferred this way.

BUT... if you do this, be very careful. Standing in front of open-door, microwave ovens can fry you just like standing front of aviation radar... if you are not careful.

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March 04, 2015, 12:17:23 AM
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Interesting!

Thanks for the enlightenment.

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March 04, 2015, 12:02:42 PM
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nice sig

http://www.contravex.com/2014/04/20/the-brokenness-of-maidsafe/

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=579797.msg6370815#msg6370815

http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=maidsafe&sort=date
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