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March 06, 2015, 01:24:20 AM
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New Hampshire liberty activists like Katherine Albrecht, the New Hampshire Liberty Alliance, the New Hampshire Libertarian Party, and the New Hampshire Constitution Party started the national anti-REAL ID movement. The movement is still going strong, even this week in New Hampshire.

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The hook REAL ID uses in seeking to dragoon states into compliance is the threat that TSA agents will refuse IDs from non-complying states at our nation’s airports. The threat is an empty one. Consistently over years, every time a DHS-created compliance deadline has come around, state leaders with spines have backed the Department of Homeland Security down. I detailed the years-long saga of pushed-back deadlines last year in the Cato Policy Analysis, “REAL ID: A State-by-State Update.”

DHS has stopped publishing deadline changes in the Federal Register–perhaps the endless retreats were getting embarrassing–and now it has simply said on its website that TSA enforcement will begin sometime in 2016. But it’s evidently back-channeling threats to state officials. Those folks–unaware that REAL ID doesn’t work, and disinterested in the allocation of state and federal power–are lobbying their state legislatures to get on board with the national ID program.

New Hampshire is one state where this has occurred. Worries about New Hampshirites ability to travel by air recently caused the Department of Public Safety (which houses New Hampshire’ motor vehicle bureau) to seek legislation that would move the state toward REAL ID compliance.

New Hampshire is special because it’s where the first volley in the REAL ID rebellion was thrown. In 2006, after a bill to reject REAL ID got a head of steam in New Hampshire, states across the country rejected the national ID law.

In testimony I delivered to the New Hampshire Senate Transportation Committee yesterday, I detailed this history, telling the story of how DHS has repeatedly backed off its threat to inconvenience travelers when states have rejected this unfunded federal surveillance mandate. The circumstances today are unchanged: If the TSA starts refusing IDs, the TSA, the DHS, and their supporters in Congress will take the blame. The DHS knows this, which is why they always back down before push comes to shove. States should have no fear of TSA interfering with their residents’ travels because of REAL ID.

Rejecting REAL ID is good security, too. If the nation were to spend billions of dollars on REAL ID compliance, undercutting all our privacy and autonomy a little more by putting us into a national identity system, we’d get nothing remotely comparable in security gains. Proponents of this national ID program have never shown how it would provide cost-effective security.

My testimony may have helped. The strong presence of the New Hampshire Liberty Alliance showed the committee that this was not a business-as-usual bill. And I think really excellent, persuasive testimony from New Hampshire Civil Liberties Union Executive Director Devon Chafee carried the day. The committee voted unanimously to reject the REAL ID compliance bill. Once they knew that the DHS is brandishing empty threats to inconvenience travelers at TSA checkpoints, they ended their state’s brief flirtation with REAL ID compliance.

This is information legislators across the country need. A number of states could emulate New Hampshire’s rejection of REAL ID. There are still many places where legislators labor under the impression that REAL ID imposes obligations on them, including South Dakota, California , New Mexico , Hawaii , Idaho, Oklahoma , Arizona , Rhode Island , Illinois, Iowa, New York, and Florida.

http://www.cato.org/blog/new-hampshire-ends-brief-flirtation-national-id-compliance
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March 06, 2015, 01:42:31 AM
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You don't have a national ID card or citizen card in the USA?
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March 06, 2015, 03:30:58 AM
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You don't have a national ID card or citizen card in the USA?
All states are different, every state sends a driver's license to all people that want to drive and pay for the privilege which should be a right aka no license/permit yada yada.. AFAIK, there's no national ID card that has to be carried by any citizen/resident of any state right now anywhere in the USA. Point being, according to the article there was a push from the mid 2000s to get a nat'l id trending across the country by establishment republicans but has been rebuffed in many states, including NH. NH, being the freedom vehicle that it is, has shut down this National ID stroke into the future and doesn't want anything to do with it. It takes the most advanced activists to shoot something down and in NH it comes down to the Free State Project being the vehicle that drives libertarians to come there to straighten out the state. In addition to this, they shot down the seatbelt law, via an $8 million bribe via the Feds, back in 2010. Is that realistic in you life? If not, consider https://freestateproject.org/
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March 06, 2015, 11:57:57 PM
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You don't have a national ID card or citizen card in the USA?
All states are different, every state sends a driver's license to all people that want to drive and pay for the privilege which should be a right aka no license/permit yada yada.. AFAIK, there's no national ID card that has to be carried by any citizen/resident of any state right now anywhere in the USA. Point being, according to the article there was a push from the mid 2000s to get a nat'l id trending across the country by establishment republicans but has been rebuffed in many states, including NH. NH, being the freedom vehicle that it is, has shut down this National ID stroke into the future and doesn't want anything to do with it. It takes the most advanced activists to shoot something down and in NH it comes down to the Free State Project being the vehicle that drives libertarians to come there to straighten out the state. In addition to this, they shot down the seatbelt law, via an $8 million bribe via the Feds, back in 2010. Is that realistic in you life? If not, consider https://freestateproject.org/

Was the seatbelt law a law to make seatbelt use mandatory?

What if you don't drive, how do you prove to someone you are who you say you are?
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March 07, 2015, 06:15:49 AM
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So what's the anti-REAL ID movement? Why should we care that New Hampshire is ending its "flirtation with National ID compliance"?

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March 07, 2015, 12:34:44 PM
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Is identity theft a common thing in USA?

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