P2P and The dangers of to much freedom without control can be good and bad.

[Snail2]

This is bitcoin related cause it all started with bitcoin because it allowed for people to receive payments in a new form.

I feel like things are starting to get out of hand, but I want people to make there valid points on P2P and the inventions of AI. 

There is website that is being built that can take most Dev jobs and soon programming will be so easy that anyone can do it.

P2P websites can hurt others like online businesses.   

Please express what you all think

I guess carters and horse dealers thought the same hundred years ago when they seen that those blokes with screwdrivers and winches really think stuff seriously regarding those loud stinky machines...  

[AtheistAKASaneBrain]

There's no such thing as too much freedom on the internet... why, you ask, well it's simple, no matter how much you try to regulate, we are headed towards a future were a separate internet will exist apart from the "official one". Search "meshnet".

[Lauda]

Yah that is what I said to people who are looking to buy it, can be used as a great spy tool, Im sure she had a secret meeting to probably let the gov do so.  Spying is illegal.  Why isnt the NSA behind bars?

Because the government isn't working for is, it's just creating an illusion that it is.  If there was a way to remove his wireless/lan hardware then I'd consider it. I doubt however that it will be released without internet access or that it can even work as good as it should without it. Anyhow the security risk of Jibo and similar devices is another subject. I'm telling you, just because it's good on video doesn't mean that it will be good once released. We've had so many examples of this in the past.

I've yet to see an example of the dangers that freedom will bring us.

[duckydonald]

Yah that is what I said to people who are looking to buy it, can be used as a great spy tool, Im sure she had a secret meeting to probably let the gov do so.  Spying is illegal.  Why isnt the NSA behind bars?

Because the government isn't working for is, it's just creating an illusion that it is.  If there was a way to remove his wireless/lan hardware then I'd consider it. I doubt however that it will be released without internet access or that it can even work as good as it should without it. Anyhow the security risk of Jibo and similar devices is another subject. I'm telling you, just because it's good on video doesn't mean that it will be good once released. We've had so many examples of this in the past.

I've yet to see an example of the dangers that freedom will bring us.

I kinda agree, when the kinect camera was shown on video it looked great, but when it was released it was kind of a dissapointment of all the glitches the hardware and the games had

[jbreher]

The sophistication of duckydonald's blatherings make me suspect that duckydonald is him/her/itself just a poorly coded AI implementation of a trolling engine.

[duckydonald]

The sophistication of duckydonald's blatherings make me suspect that duckydonald is him/her/itself just a poorly coded AI implementation of a trolling engine.

Keep your opinions to yourself.  I was trying to get out opinions on how they feel?

There is no bias here, now be gone!!!!!

[cr1776]

yes but in fact this where it can lead to, We are going to be the ruin of our own demise because we all wan to make a political statement.  we are going the wrong way about it. Im sure in the end the kill switch will happen and they will find a way to attack P2P that are dangerous or a threat to whomever.

There is nothing wrong with control and there is nothing wrong with freedom, but too much of both of them are dangerous.

They didnt ban bitcoin cause they can make it illegal.   How much p2p we really need?

Control of yourself is fine. Why should anyone trust someone else to control them more than they control themselves?

That is the basis of all totalitarianism.

[duckydonald]

yes but in fact this where it can lead to, We are going to be the ruin of our own demise because we all wan to make a political statement.  we are going the wrong way about it. Im sure in the end the kill switch will happen and they will find a way to attack P2P that are dangerous or a threat to whomever.

There is nothing wrong with control and there is nothing wrong with freedom, but too much of both of them are dangerous.

They didnt ban bitcoin cause they can make it illegal.   How much p2p we really need?

Control of yourself is fine. Why should anyone trust someone else to control them more than they control themselves?

That is the basis of all totalitarianism.

Ok Im curious to see how much control of ourselves are we going to be allowed to get.  Many people are concerned that this can be the ruin to internet.  But who knows, we have the power, not them right?  so lets how far we can go!  I am really curious to see how these limits are pushed.

[jbreher]

The sophistication of duckydonald's blatherings make me suspect that duckydonald is him/her/itself just a poorly coded AI implementation of a trolling engine.

Keep your opinions to yourself.  I was trying to get out opinions on how they feel?

There is no bias here, now be gone!!!!!

Please express what you all think

I was just expressing what I thought. I think I have yet to see anything from you that could not be reduced to 'freedom BAD - herp derp'.

You just come off as something of an automaton in that respect. With the topic of anti-p2p in a forum dedicated to p2p money, how could this be anything but trolling?

[jbreher]

Many people are concerned that this can be the ruin to internet. 

Please list these 'many people'

[HI-TEC99]

Many people are concerned that this can be the ruin to internet. 

Please list these 'many people'

I doubt many people think that

[duckydonald]

you see I have nothing against P2P, but the problem is that not every user is goody two shoe. 

[duckydonald]

Whats important here is the difference between p2p economy and market economy. P2P economies "produce use-value through the free cooperation of producers who have access to distributed capital: this is the P2P production mode, a 'third mode of production' different from for-profit or public production by state-owned enterprises. Its product is not exchange value for a market, but use-value for a community of users."

Ok that is the great side of P2P, so nothing bad can happen with it?

[Lauda]

Whats important here is the difference between p2p economy and market economy. P2P economies "produce use-value through the free cooperation of producers who have access to distributed capital: this is the P2P production mode, a 'third mode of production' different from for-profit or public production by state-owned enterprises. Its product is not exchange value for a market, but use-value for a community of users."

Ok that is the great side of P2P, so nothing bad can happen with it?

Nobody said that nothing bad can happen with it. Something bad can happen with anything. All we are saying is that nothing bad is happening.

[BitcoinChica]

Well, Maybe this is a matter of conditioning. I am not sure. But education could go a long way to making people able to...handle themselves...Lowering the drinking age might help....

[jbreher]

the problem is that not every user is goody two shoe.  

So what?

From your rantings, you'd apparently take us all back to a pre-industrial-revolution utopia, where there is plenty of backbreaking, early-death labor for everyone - sunup to sundown for a subsistence life. 'Cyrus McCormick's reaping machine is a devil-contraption that will starve us all!'

[duckydonald]

Whats important here is the difference between p2p economy and market economy. P2P economies "produce use-value through the free cooperation of producers who have access to distributed capital: this is the P2P production mode, a 'third mode of production' different from for-profit or public production by state-owned enterprises. Its product is not exchange value for a market, but use-value for a community of users."

Ok that is the great side of P2P, so nothing bad can happen with it?

Nobody said that nothing bad can happen with it. Something bad can happen with anything. All we are saying is that nothing bad is happening.

so your saying that P2P, has not stopped you buy movies? I know it has for me. No child under 18 years old pictures were sold due to pedophilia,  Pictures and live video of woman violated over P2P, ha ha give me a break, nothing never bad happen?  Oh wait hackers never spread viruses across the P2P network?  I can keep going.  Saying nothing bad happen is like saying, is like saying it wont rain. Despite more than a decade of education and litigation and a blossoming of legal distribution outlets, we know that some consumers are simply prone to steal intellectual property.  The fact is the psychology of free still permeates the music industry or others who had been affected by it.  It seems no one cares about legality or the morality of it.
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Jbre if you sending messages your on ignore, since you do not have the ability to state your opinion without judgement.

[duckydonald]

The odds are high that if super low interest rates continue (virtually certain), P2P lending will continue to rise rapidly as yield-desperate investors seek better returns. As more money flows through these channels, it virtually assures less careful selection.

Ahh viable information your sharing there, buddy.