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April 07, 2015, 11:12:41 PM
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LONG BEACH (CBSLA.com) — Water authorities are using a new tool in a major effort to crack down on people and businesses wasting water in light of new water restrictions issued by Gov. Jerry Brown to fight the drought.

The Long Beach Water Department says sprinklers at a McDonald’s restaurant on Bellflower Boulevard went on for 45 minutes at a time, twice a night, for an undefined number of nights. Complaints continued to mount as water pooled and wasted. The department, however, could do little about the wasting.

That was before the smart meter.

Since its installation in February, Long Beach Water Department General Manager Kevin Wattier says he saw an immediate spike by tens of thousands of gallons, each time McDonald’s overwatered their property.

“It collects the data every five minutes, then after midnight, the cellphone that’s built in here comes on, makes one call, and calls it in to the database that we and the customer, through a password security system, have online access to their consumption,” Wattier said.

“The accuracy is just incredible, because we get the data the next day.”

Using this data, Wattier knew the precise moment to send his employees to videotape the infractions to use as evidence.


http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2015/04/06/water-authorities-to-use-new-tool-in-fight-against-water-wasters/


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April 08, 2015, 07:05:06 AM
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This new devices could help us monitor and control the water consumption.  We should learn the fact that Due to pollution, corruption, inefficiency and the never ending greed of the global elite, the United States (and the entire world) is heading for a very serious water shortage.  
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/water-shortage
http://thewaterproject.org/why-water
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April 08, 2015, 07:10:22 AM
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This new devices could help us monitor and control the water consumption.  We should learn the fact that Due to pollution, corruption, inefficiency and the never ending greed of the global elite, the United States (and the entire world) is heading for a very serious water shortage.  
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/water-shortage
http://thewaterproject.org/why-water
Where does this wasted water go?  We learned in school that there is a water cycle, and when we use water, it goes through the pipes and ends up in a water treatment facility, they treat the water and it comes back.
Even if you use lots of water on your garden, it will go through the ground and return to a river, or evapourate and come back as rain... it seems like it might be something else going on that can explain why water is disappearing and not coming back.

I think leaky pipes and poor efficiency from water companies is to blame, not us... it's much easier to blame the little guy though, just like with CO2 emissions.
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April 08, 2015, 08:27:02 AM
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This new devices could help us monitor and control the water consumption.  We should learn the fact that Due to pollution, corruption, inefficiency and the never ending greed of the global elite, the United States (and the entire world) is heading for a very serious water shortage.  
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/water-shortage
http://thewaterproject.org/why-water
Where does this wasted water go?  We learned in school that there is a water cycle, and when we use water, it goes through the pipes and ends up in a water treatment facility, they treat the water and it comes back.
Even if you use lots of water on your garden, it will go through the ground and return to a river, or evapourate and come back as rain... it seems like it might be something else going on that can explain why water is disappearing and not coming back.

I think leaky pipes and poor efficiency from water companies is to blame, not us... it's much easier to blame the little guy though, just like with CO2 emissions.

I'm curious as well if someone with science background can tell us what happens to water "wasted".  If it was a ton of water i guess it could go into ground water if right area.

I would think pipes can cause it aswell.  I had a not to old pipe going where I had a garden.   With being a farm it as a little ways away.   Duriing winter it broke and I had made one big piece of ice.  I was suprised how much water was used.   I realize we really don't have a viable way to do it that I know of, but if you could prevent pipe leaks or bursts with new tech you could save a lot of H20
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April 08, 2015, 01:01:41 PM
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Well, I certainly don't like the idea, but California is getting drier and drier. Something must be done, and making people consume less of it makes a lot of sense.

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April 08, 2015, 01:58:30 PM
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Well, I certainly don't like the idea, but California is getting drier and drier. Something must be done, and making people consume less of it makes a lot of sense.


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April 08, 2015, 03:01:49 PM
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CA Residents Fined $500 a Day for Long Showers While Big Business Gets Special Treatment
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“It is striking that his executive order refines restrictions to the urban sector that consumes only 20 percent of California’s water and leaves the agricultural sector, which consumes 80 percent of the water, untouched at least for the moment,” said Mark Hertsgaard, an environmental journalist and author who lives in San Francisco. “You can’t leave 80 percent of the problem off the table.”
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The large question of why only individual citizens are bearing the burden of the new water restrictions, while big business is allowed to continue unabated with business as usual, due to the emergency order having no effect on them, remains to be answered.

High water use industries such as Nestle, which bottles over 200 million gallons of water per year, and frack-mining, which uses 70 million gallons-per-year, are both exempt from the new California water restrictions.

Guest host Martha Raddatz highlighted for Brown that there’s “More water used for almond production than is used by all residents and businesses in San Francisco and Los Angeles combined,” as the almond industry uses over 1.1 trillion gallons of water yearly.

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April 08, 2015, 03:12:09 PM
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Well, I certainly don't like the idea, but California is getting drier and drier. Something must be done, and making people consume less of it makes a lot of sense.

Can only see the situation getting worse in the future and something does need to be done. Personally I haven't got too much of a problem with smart meters as long as it doesn't get to the stage where a government official is watching me take a shit to make sure I don't flush twice.

Corps like McDonalds and Big Agro are making a much larger drain on the water table than the residents, they certainly shouldn't be exempt from meters unless they can prove they have decent water efficiency (like McDonalds using astroturf instead of grass).


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April 08, 2015, 03:24:50 PM
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I was there last week and man, its already a disaster. The farmers are now starting to sell their water shares because it is more profitable than farming. It could be that in 50 years L.A. becomes a dried up ghost town.
The "wasted" water is not just going to go into some pipes underground and be available for Cali again. The water is going to stay on Earth, but it will move out of the region. That whole area is a desert and only blooms when you bring in water from the mountains. This year the snow-pack is down to 12% and the reservoirs are mostly dry.  As the water evaporates into the desert air it is carried East and will likely fall past the rain shadow of the Rocky Mountains.
L.A. is living on borrowed time.

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April 08, 2015, 05:40:42 PM
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I was there last week and man, its already a disaster. The farmers are now starting to sell their water shares because it is more profitable than farming. It could be that in 50 years L.A. becomes a dried up ghost town.
The "wasted" water is not just going to go into some pipes underground and be available for Cali again. The water is going to stay on Earth, but it will move out of the region. That whole area is a desert and only blooms when you bring in water from the mountains. This year the snow-pack is down to 12% and the reservoirs are mostly dry.  As the water evaporates into the desert air it is carried East and will likely fall past the rain shadow of the Rocky Mountains.
L.A. is living on borrowed time.


L.A. can always make a 3D blockbuster action packed movie and call it "Waterworld II: Dry Lands Eldorado"


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