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April 11, 2015, 12:44:20 PM
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Now imagine, if we take that same demand that we are seeing today and apply it after the halving. Note that I'm not saying demanding is increasing because to say that it is, means basically a wild assumption. It might even be lower than what it is today. So assuming the demand is close to or almost similar as it is today by June/July next year and miner's reward has been cut from 25 bitcoins to 12.5 bitcoins per block. For price to go up, demand has to overcome supply and since now we have taken the assumption that demand maintains and supply has been reduced by half, shouldn't we see price going up? Unless, the factor of decrease in demand is more than half, then it's the opposite. So here, I would say there's every chance with better prospect.
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I find this assumption especially interesting here.  If no traders give a thought to block subsidy then it may be valid.  However, if sufficiently many traders make this assumption and follow the logic, they will have a strong incentive to demand more bitcoins today and fewer bitcoins in the future, hence corrupting the assumption.

This reminds me of "Guess 2/3 of the average".  A number of players each secretly write down a number from 0 to 100 (inclusive).  The numbers are then collected, and 2/3 of the average is calculated.  The player with the number closest to 2/3 of the average wins.

Your logic puts in mind the strategy "choose 100/3" which calculates this to be the best value based on the assumption that most other people are not giving any thought to their goal and are simply selecting numbers at random.

To clarify, I don't claim that this is a bad assumption (indeed, assuming all bitcoin traders are hopelessly incompotent is far more accurate than assuming they are all perfectly rational) but I do find it interesting.
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April 11, 2015, 01:21:13 PM
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Nothing to worry about

The chip developers have a new generation of super chips ready to go

they have been holding them back and as halving arrives the hash will double  Grin

Actually, good thinking.  The chip developers have the power to control bitcoin mining.

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April 11, 2015, 01:48:12 PM
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I was just thinking this morning, about the reward halving upcoming sometime 2016. Most ppl here are pretty assured that when the halving happens it will guarantee that BTC will increase in value. There have been plenty of guarantees over the last year or so and none have panned out so far. If BTC remains at its current performance level, wouldn't the halving merely drive any miners operating at a thin margin out, make mining not profitable enough for new miners to get in the game and basically slow the network? I understand supply and demand, but demand drives that, not necessarily supply. If no one wants a 200$ btc, it doesn't matter how many there are or how hard they are to mine?

just a shower thought, what's your take? and please, limit your "BTC CAN NEVAR DIE and you sir are a cock!" statements to provable truths, not opinionated speculation please. BTC could die and very well might. I hope not, but that isn't the point of this thread.

What do you think will really happen when the halving comes? anyone thought through any scenarios?

Just look at the history: reward halved once already and the price did not react immediately. Did bitcoin die?

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April 11, 2015, 02:48:01 PM
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Nothing to worry about

The chip developers have a new generation of super chips ready to go

they have been holding them back and as halving arrives the hash will double  Grin

this could explain some of them don't pay the bill, cough gawminer cough, they are investing in new asic generation

I was just thinking this morning, about the reward halving upcoming sometime 2016. Most ppl here are pretty assured that when the halving happens it will guarantee that BTC will increase in value. There have been plenty of guarantees over the last year or so and none have panned out so far. If BTC remains at its current performance level, wouldn't the halving merely drive any miners operating at a thin margin out, make mining not profitable enough for new miners to get in the game and basically slow the network? I understand supply and demand, but demand drives that, not necessarily supply. If no one wants a 200$ btc, it doesn't matter how many there are or how hard they are to mine?

just a shower thought, what's your take? and please, limit your "BTC CAN NEVAR DIE and you sir are a cock!" statements to provable truths, not opinionated speculation please. BTC could die and very well might. I hope not, but that isn't the point of this thread.

What do you think will really happen when the halving comes? anyone thought through any scenarios?

Just look at the history: reward halved once already and the price did not react immediately. Did bitcoin die?

the price reacted before the halving happened, and then after the halving the price continued to climb
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