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August 24, 2012, 11:59:27 PM
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I was wondering about making a "bitchain messenger" that allows you to send messages to others and then those messages are signed and encrypted into the bitchain? Sort of like how bitcoin sends coins - you'd be sending text messages (like twitter). Each message would cost 1 coin, but it could be a relatively cheap coin like LiteCoin - and when you send a coin, you also have a space to send a message. You'd have anonymous messaging and currency. So, for example you could order something and include your shipping address with your payment. Or perhaps just use it as a jabber replacement. Messages would only be delivered after 6 or so confirmations. You could for example place a bet by sending a coin (and your message would include the pay-to address so you could get paid if you won the bet). You could play chess online by sending the moves (ex: Rb3 Na1) and you couldn't take back moves or cheat.
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August 25, 2012, 12:36:39 AM
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So, anyone know of any software which does something similar to this currently?
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August 25, 2012, 12:45:37 AM
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Nope, because you havn't made it yet.  Thanks for volunteering your time.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

- Carroll Quigley, CFR member, mentor to Bill Clinton, from 'Tragedy And Hope'
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August 25, 2012, 12:48:12 AM
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So, anyone know of any software which does something similar to this currently?

 - http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/a/2635/153

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August 25, 2012, 01:13:03 AM
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I was wondering about making a "bitchain messenger" that allows you to send messages to others and then those messages are signed and encrypted into the bitchain? Sort of like how bitcoin sends coins - you'd be sending text messages (like twitter). Each message would cost 1 coin, but it could be a relatively cheap coin like LiteCoin - and when you send a coin, you also have a space to send a message. You'd have anonymous messaging and currency. So, for example you could order something and include your shipping address with your payment. Or perhaps just use it as a jabber replacement. Messages would only be delivered after 6 or so confirmations. You could for example place a bet by sending a coin (and your message would include the pay-to address so you could get paid if you won the bet). You could play chess online by sending the moves (ex: Rb3 Na1) and you couldn't take back moves or cheat.

In principle this is a very interesting idea. This would in effect be like P2P email, where the message gets encrypted and stored in the bitchain - call it a mailchain. Would be interesting for messages which need to act as proof under certain circumstances. E.g. legal contracts. Then the chain can act as a timestamp which cannot be falsified. It would be a decentralized notary.

Since the chain only has to be self-sufficient you could have a constant coinbase transaction per block which equals the amount of available bytes in a block. E.g. if you set the hard limit to 1MB. you allow the generation of 1M coins per block. Then a message costs exactly it's amount in bytes - otherwise a miner should reject the message.

The ASICMINER Project https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.0
"The way you solve things is by making it politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right thing.", Milton Friedman
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August 25, 2012, 01:15:20 AM
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Already exists, see: http://btcmsg.staticloud.com/ or https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=47283
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August 25, 2012, 01:26:55 AM
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Looks like the project was abandoned. Some of the posts met my concern that including the messages directly in the bitcoin blockchain will hijack it for a different purpose. The you have a problem if the two applications have different computational complexities.


The ASICMINER Project https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.0
"The way you solve things is by making it politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right thing.", Milton Friedman
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August 25, 2012, 02:26:58 AM
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Yeah, it'll be available for anyone to see.  Also, that would be awfully expensive for a mail client.  $11 for anonymous mails???
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August 25, 2012, 11:28:34 PM
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I was wondering about making a "bitchain messenger" that allows you to send messages to others and then those messages are signed and encrypted into the bitchain? Sort of like how bitcoin sends coins - you'd be sending text messages (like twitter). Each message would cost 1 coin, but it could be a relatively cheap coin like LiteCoin - and when you send a coin, you also have a space to send a message. You'd have anonymous messaging and currency. So, for example you could order something and include your shipping address with your payment. Or perhaps just use it as a jabber replacement. Messages would only be delivered after 6 or so confirmations. You could for example place a bet by sending a coin (and your message would include the pay-to address so you could get paid if you won the bet). You could play chess online by sending the moves (ex: Rb3 Na1) and you couldn't take back moves or cheat.

CommitCoin is a similar idea. Proof of concept is here and it only cost BTC .005 :

http://people.scs.carleton.ca/%7Eclark/projects/commitcoin/
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