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May 13, 2015, 09:14:52 AM
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Eat a lot of antioxidants

Oxygen makes us age

Aronia is great !
It has plenty of antioxidants and it's healthy as fuck
I'm growing one in my backyard  Smiley

1L of it's juice costs 30ish$  Cheesy

I'v also planted 1 goji, good and tasty

The most antioxidants in common fruits is the plum
Plums have plenty of them, and I have around 6-7 plums
But they're old as fuck and don't give much fruit, we planted them to make rakija, not for the antioxidants Cheesy

That's just to slow down your aging process, however other organs will give up on you early if you don't take care of them

You need to run, practice, keep your body active&healthy to live a long life
Cut back on cigarettes and don't drink excesivelly

I'm not doing very good with this, I live a sedentary lifestyle and there's too little of this fruit to make a difference
It's not very cheap to buy though, good idea if you have extra money to spare Smiley

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is that information true? where did you get that?
it would be amazing if everyone could live longer


Step back. Remember were you are: Bitcoin Forum > Other > Politics & Society > "Most people could live past 130 if they choose to, while aging very little _ No I won't tell you how..."

Let's cut to the chase. Where can I send my bitcoins to know the answer?

 Cool



Not so fast. I would love to oblige you, but I rather you learn of my honesty and insight first.
I am the real deal, but I can be anyone and full of crap so stay tuned. There are just too many
human expressions that have been belittled through fraudulent top-down approved cultural manipulations.
This is too good of a topic for me to lie or troll.

I'm supposing it's relating to this guy: Aubrey de Grey (wikipedia). He's a professor at Oxford I think who has been researching regenerative medicine: cleansing cells + healthy living, so as to extend life. Is this it OP?

Healthy living only does so much to extend your life, nowhere near the "past 130 if they choose to", and you will age accordingly(So you will be "old and wrinkly" at age 90 for example no matter how healthy you are).

The only things I know of that can actually potentially reverse or temporary stop aging is Stem cells, nanomedicine(Such as enzymes that somehow "replenish" cells, or discovering how to apply Henrietta Lack's "immortal cells" to stop aging in everyone else(As telomores are thought to be the thing that as they shrink do to every cell splitting, cause aging of the cell and eventual death of said cell, that's ceased however in the case of "immortal cells").

Then there's robotics and the prospect of "transforming" the human body with robotic machinery.

Your opinion is based on mainstream science and culture. Mostly for money grabbing and TV fluff leading people with
false hope and steering them into the hands of the Administrative State ultimately. I am well aware of the
concepts you have mentioned, but this is only part of the awareness required for what I will elaborate on in
this thread.

By the way, how many times have you been in resthomes to study the elderly? I have seen many resthome
patients who are 80 - 90 with baby smooth skin and less wrinkles than a 50 year old. These people unfortunately
have been captured by the state and have little opportunity to be aware of their own biology. Now imagine the worst
case scenario of my interest, where if these same people were well nourished via modern nutritional understandings
for most of their life on top of their genetic predisposition to look fairly healthy at such ages. There are great changes
available for people now! But you must be willing to deprogram yourself and expand your conscious awareness. Its
a growing and learning experience.





Unfortunately you're entirely wrong. The older you age the less collagen your skin has so your statament of " I have seen many resthome patients who are 60-90 with baby smooth skin" is hopelessly false. It's been proven time and time again that dietary habits and nutrition does nothing for the appearance of your skin. The biggest factors of skin aging is The Sun, UVA/UVB Rays, and Nicotine(Smoking). The Sun destroys the collagen that keeps your skin plump and smooth in appearance, and Nicotine restricts the blood vessels in your skin leading it to become more prone to dryness and subsequent wrinkles.

Healthy Living only does so much to improve your lifespan, by a few measly years. Of course that is important as it's better to be generally healthy and fit that unhealthy and restricted(physically). But, when it comes to actually improving your lifespan itself, it doesn't do much and certainly not 130+ years and above like the OP has mentioned. I really hope you guys don't believe in that nonsense that has been refuted time and time again, but it more seems like the OP is one of those snakeoil salesmen trying to sell the next "life extension product" to gain a few bucks(Would also explain why he refuses to elaborate on any of his "points").



No dude. You are. Like I said, you are basing your opinions on mainstream fluff cultural opinions on these matters.
You must be reading from Cosmopolitan magazine haha. If you aren't, then you are parroting the same BS of so called "settled science".
I've helped some aging women get rid of their wrinkles by increasing collagen production and providing dietary/supplementary options
to increase the amount of UVA/UVB blockage in the skin(skin actually needs UV exposure, but this process of exposure is tightly regulated
and prone to reduced function with age and nutritional deficiencies of course). Ever heard of carotinoids? I guess not. This is only one of many things
that greatly reduce solar emissions from damaging DNA. The sun is NOT the biggest factor in skin aging. That is a bunch of propaganda
for those who are unaware of how to properly nourish their body. Common sense would tell you if you've looked at sun exposure,
age, ethnicity and diet, that collagen level decline with age is not consistent across the populations of the world. As well as other
sun exposure protecting factors. It is a fact that you can freely look up, that metal based sun block increases risk of cancer. Well duh!
Many of these sun screen creams and sprays act like solar panels to an extent, and energetically overload the cells causing
reduced function and proneness to malignancy. Learn about electronegativity and photon interaction. Mind blow.

There is a lovely saying "you are a racist if you haven't educated yourself as to why you're not". Now I'm not
calling you a racist obviously, but to be so ignorant of aging traits across various ethnic groups for example is
somewhat racially insensitive. You certainly had a hard settled opinion about at least one ethnic group in
mind when you said what you did. Or are you the silly type who bought into the phrase created by a
wonderful gentleman of Jewish ancestry who said "race is only skin deep". Who later recanted this statement
and based on genetic facts, made a statement about how Jews are an ethnically distinct people. As are all major
and minor ethnic groups. And no, I do not agree with other views this said gentleman has if you care to find him.
I just loved how a phrase that so many use and agree with came from a known racist.
 

While I don't get into race baiting and all that stuff, it is part of my understanding because if I am to share
true knowledge on what I know, I must be sensitive to the biological differences of others. Race is not skin deep.
And nutrition absorption and assimilation are not the same for all peoples. So I must be cognizant of this fact
in order for all people to benefit from what I wish to share.

I am not the next guy trying to sell snake oil or the next life extension product. I will warn people about this later on
as this thread matures. I know full well of what is coming in the future for products relating to what I talk about
and I know how to filter out the fakes and frauds, or simply inefficient things. I could do without you trying to distort the
concepts I am attempting to elaborate on for the benefit of others. You are always welcome to continue with your
comments. I appreciate you as much as everyone else.

Words can't express the amount of mental face-palms I've done while reading your paragraphs.

1) Nutrition and dietary factors have a negligible to no effect on the outwards appearance of skin, incase you didn't know, Wrinkles form primarily because of skin dryness coupled with loss of collagen that results in your skin losing it's "bounce back" ability, meaning that it can no longer regain it's former shape when pulled, or when you smile or frown(Hence smile/frown lines and crowlines etc). The vast majority of collagen loss and damage comes not from aging, but from UVA/UVB rays given off by the Sun.

2) Yes, different racial groups have different genetic makeups, but they are not enough to actually make the distinction of being different races. Race when it comes to humans is what we call a social construct. You should look into genetics.

Everything and I mean everything you've said is false... This guy below worked 28 years as a truck driver, and the sun would constantly hit the left side of his face while driving. These are the results of constant UVA/UVB rays hitting one's face daily for 28 years:


http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/06/06/bill-mcelligott-sun-damage_n_1573546.html


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May 13, 2015, 02:40:58 PM
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he never took turns?

or he never came back the same road on the other side Cheesy

I get your point, but this..

damn, how do you always drive with the same side facing the sun

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May 13, 2015, 03:47:39 PM
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Looks to be quite a difference.

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May 13, 2015, 04:28:22 PM
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Now that is quite something. I do my best to avoid the sun as much as possible. It's been a lifelong aversion. Anyone who seeks it out kinda deserves what they get. It's pretty clear what'll happen to them.
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May 14, 2015, 02:54:22 AM
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is that information true? where did you get that?
it would be amazing if everyone could live longer


Step back. Remember were you are: Bitcoin Forum > Other > Politics & Society > "Most people could live past 130 if they choose to, while aging very little _ No I won't tell you how..."

Let's cut to the chase. Where can I send my bitcoins to know the answer?

 Cool



Not so fast. I would love to oblige you, but I rather you learn of my honesty and insight first.
I am the real deal, but I can be anyone and full of crap so stay tuned. There are just too many
human expressions that have been belittled through fraudulent top-down approved cultural manipulations.
This is too good of a topic for me to lie or troll.

I'm supposing it's relating to this guy: Aubrey de Grey (wikipedia). He's a professor at Oxford I think who has been researching regenerative medicine: cleansing cells + healthy living, so as to extend life. Is this it OP?

Healthy living only does so much to extend your life, nowhere near the "past 130 if they choose to", and you will age accordingly(So you will be "old and wrinkly" at age 90 for example no matter how healthy you are).

The only things I know of that can actually potentially reverse or temporary stop aging is Stem cells, nanomedicine(Such as enzymes that somehow "replenish" cells, or discovering how to apply Henrietta Lack's "immortal cells" to stop aging in everyone else(As telomores are thought to be the thing that as they shrink do to every cell splitting, cause aging of the cell and eventual death of said cell, that's ceased however in the case of "immortal cells").

Then there's robotics and the prospect of "transforming" the human body with robotic machinery.

Your opinion is based on mainstream science and culture. Mostly for money grabbing and TV fluff leading people with
false hope and steering them into the hands of the Administrative State ultimately. I am well aware of the
concepts you have mentioned, but this is only part of the awareness required for what I will elaborate on in
this thread.

By the way, how many times have you been in resthomes to study the elderly? I have seen many resthome
patients who are 80 - 90 with baby smooth skin and less wrinkles than a 50 year old. These people unfortunately
have been captured by the state and have little opportunity to be aware of their own biology. Now imagine the worst
case scenario of my interest, where if these same people were well nourished via modern nutritional understandings
for most of their life on top of their genetic predisposition to look fairly healthy at such ages. There are great changes
available for people now! But you must be willing to deprogram yourself and expand your conscious awareness. Its
a growing and learning experience.





Unfortunately you're entirely wrong. The older you age the less collagen your skin has so your statament of " I have seen many resthome patients who are 60-90 with baby smooth skin" is hopelessly false. It's been proven time and time again that dietary habits and nutrition does nothing for the appearance of your skin. The biggest factors of skin aging is The Sun, UVA/UVB Rays, and Nicotine(Smoking). The Sun destroys the collagen that keeps your skin plump and smooth in appearance, and Nicotine restricts the blood vessels in your skin leading it to become more prone to dryness and subsequent wrinkles.

Healthy Living only does so much to improve your lifespan, by a few measly years. Of course that is important as it's better to be generally healthy and fit that unhealthy and restricted(physically). But, when it comes to actually improving your lifespan itself, it doesn't do much and certainly not 130+ years and above like the OP has mentioned. I really hope you guys don't believe in that nonsense that has been refuted time and time again, but it more seems like the OP is one of those snakeoil salesmen trying to sell the next "life extension product" to gain a few bucks(Would also explain why he refuses to elaborate on any of his "points").



No dude. You are. Like I said, you are basing your opinions on mainstream fluff cultural opinions on these matters.
You must be reading from Cosmopolitan magazine haha. If you aren't, then you are parroting the same BS of so called "settled science".
I've helped some aging women get rid of their wrinkles by increasing collagen production and providing dietary/supplementary options
to increase the amount of UVA/UVB blockage in the skin(skin actually needs UV exposure, but this process of exposure is tightly regulated
and prone to reduced function with age and nutritional deficiencies of course). Ever heard of carotinoids? I guess not. This is only one of many things
that greatly reduce solar emissions from damaging DNA. The sun is NOT the biggest factor in skin aging. That is a bunch of propaganda
for those who are unaware of how to properly nourish their body. Common sense would tell you if you've looked at sun exposure,
age, ethnicity and diet, that collagen level decline with age is not consistent across the populations of the world. As well as other
sun exposure protecting factors. It is a fact that you can freely look up, that metal based sun block increases risk of cancer. Well duh!
Many of these sun screen creams and sprays act like solar panels to an extent, and energetically overload the cells causing
reduced function and proneness to malignancy. Learn about electronegativity and photon interaction. Mind blow.

There is a lovely saying "you are a racist if you haven't educated yourself as to why you're not". Now I'm not
calling you a racist obviously, but to be so ignorant of aging traits across various ethnic groups for example is
somewhat racially insensitive. You certainly had a hard settled opinion about at least one ethnic group in
mind when you said what you did. Or are you the silly type who bought into the phrase created by a
wonderful gentleman of Jewish ancestry who said "race is only skin deep". Who later recanted this statement
and based on genetic facts, made a statement about how Jews are an ethnically distinct people. As are all major
and minor ethnic groups. And no, I do not agree with other views this said gentleman has if you care to find him.
I just loved how a phrase that so many use and agree with came from a known racist.
 

While I don't get into race baiting and all that stuff, it is part of my understanding because if I am to share
true knowledge on what I know, I must be sensitive to the biological differences of others. Race is not skin deep.
And nutrition absorption and assimilation are not the same for all peoples. So I must be cognizant of this fact
in order for all people to benefit from what I wish to share.

I am not the next guy trying to sell snake oil or the next life extension product. I will warn people about this later on
as this thread matures. I know full well of what is coming in the future for products relating to what I talk about
and I know how to filter out the fakes and frauds, or simply inefficient things. I could do without you trying to distort the
concepts I am attempting to elaborate on for the benefit of others. You are always welcome to continue with your
comments. I appreciate you as much as everyone else.
Can't wait to read more - as this thread matures...

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May 14, 2015, 03:04:53 AM
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For a lot of great nutrition info, and some law info as well, listen to this Karl Lentz, almost 5-hour, audio - http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-127469/TS-971269.mp3.

Karl starts the talk out. It is a rather friendly, general conversation. It gets into nutrition right at the start, throws a little law in, and continues with nutrition to the end.

Somewhere about 2 fifths into the thing, Karl goes off the air, and lets the other guys finish up with a lot of nutrition stuff. Relax when Karl looses his cool.

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Now that is quite something. I do my best to avoid the sun as much as possible. It's been a lifelong aversion. Anyone who seeks it out kinda deserves what they get. It's pretty clear what'll happen to them.

Sunscreens actually do a pretty good job of "deflecting" the sun's rays. Those that use titanium dioxide aren't soaked into the skin(It covers it), destroying any argument skeptics have of "dangerous chemicals being absorbed".

I'd say using a good sunscreen(fps 30+) is all you need to enjoy time in the sun without worrying about having major damage done to your skin.

P.S. A common analogy used is comparing the human skin to a grape. Now human skin is vastly more protected than that of a grape, but leave a grape out in the sun for a while and it turns into a dried, wrinkly raisin. Over time, due to excessive exposure to the sun, human skin will eventually begin to dry up and form wrinkles just like that grape did as it turned into a raisin.

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Now that is quite something. I do my best to avoid the sun as much as possible. It's been a lifelong aversion. Anyone who seeks it out kinda deserves what they get. It's pretty clear what'll happen to them.

Sunscreens actually do a pretty good job of "deflecting" the sun's rays. Those that use titanium dioxide aren't soaked into the skin(It covers it), destroying any argument skeptics have of "dangerous chemicals being absorbed".

I'd say using a good sunscreen(fps 30+) is all you need to enjoy time in the sun without worrying about having major damage done to your skin.

P.S. A common analogy used is comparing the human skin to a grape. Now human skin is vastly more protected than that of a grape, but leave a grape out in the sun for a while and it turns into a dried, wrinkly raisin. Over time, due to excessive exposure to the sun, human skin will eventually begin to dry up and form wrinkles just like that grape did as it turned into a raisin.

Regarding grapes, grape seed extract is one of the best common antioxidants. You can get it rather inexpensively, in bulk, from http://www.herbstoreusa.com/gs-100g.html. But be careful that you don't take too much at once - 1 or 2 tenths of a teaspoon at a time, mixed in your nutrient smoothie. The stuff is bitter as all get-out. Did you ever chew a grape seed?

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May 15, 2015, 07:59:18 AM
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he never took turns?

or he never came back the same road on the other side Cheesy

I get your point, but this..

damn, how do you always drive with the same side facing the sun

I don't think it sounds unreasonable. Think of a truck and how the driver will be sitting on one side. Even when the Sun is on the other side of the truck, the side of his face that is away from the window will be shielded by the roof and windshield of the truck (since glass is mostly opaque to UV radiation).


Now that is quite something. I do my best to avoid the sun as much as possible. It's been a lifelong aversion. Anyone who seeks it out kinda deserves what they get. It's pretty clear what'll happen to them.

Sunscreens actually do a pretty good job of "deflecting" the sun's rays. Those that use titanium dioxide aren't soaked into the skin(It covers it), destroying any argument skeptics have of "dangerous chemicals being absorbed".

I'd say using a good sunscreen(fps 30+) is all you need to enjoy time in the sun without worrying about having major damage done to your skin.

P.S. A common analogy used is comparing the human skin to a grape. Now human skin is vastly more protected than that of a grape, but leave a grape out in the sun for a while and it turns into a dried, wrinkly raisin. Over time, due to excessive exposure to the sun, human skin will eventually begin to dry up and form wrinkles just like that grape did as it turned into a raisin.

Yes. Most of the signs of visible aging is due to photoaging caused by exposure to the Sun.

Here's the same picture posted above but in mirrored form:



The mechanisms are a bit different though but the end result is pretty much the same. UV exposure causes deterioration of collagen and elastin fibers which is what gives youthful skin its smoothness and firmness. The changes that a raisin experiences has got much more to do with the loss of moisture and less to do with UV damage although loss of moisture is something that also affects aged human skin too.

Regarding grapes, grape seed extract is one of the best common antioxidants. You can get it rather inexpensively, in bulk, from http://www.herbstoreusa.com/gs-100g.html. But be careful that you don't take too much at once - 1 or 2 tenths of a teaspoon at a time, mixed in your nutrient smoothie. The stuff is bitter as all get-out. Did you ever chew a grape seed?

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The skins of grapes also contain resveratrol which might have age inhibiting properties (although the research isn't entirely conclusive).

Calorie restriction is probably the most promising method of increasing longevity but whether or not it actually works on humans is unknown. It doesn't work for some species apparently and it works much better in rats than in mice for example:

http://www.nia.nih.gov/health/publication/can-we-prevent-aging

It might be worth looking at examples of people who don't seem to have aged a lot too. Jared Leto, for example, is a vegan who is chronologically 45 but looks closer to 28-32:

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It might be worth looking at examples of people who don't seem to have aged a lot too. Jared Leto, for example, is a vegan who is chronologically 45 but looks closer to 28-32:


I think the genetic lottery is a huge, huge factor.

I myself am a fat fuck, have smoked 20-50 unfiltered cigs a day for over twenty years, hardly ever exercise and mainly eat junk.

At 40 there is a not a single line anywhere on my face or a grey or receding hair on my head. People I've grown up with who've led far cleaner lives could easily pass for a decade older than me.
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