So the destruction of Bitcoin is now official?

[Amph]

in the current scenario litecoin is a safe haven if the sky does fall for bitcoin over this fork.

Why? In any case Litecoin is a pretty abandoned coin (look at its reddit activity) that may or not may get a huge pump and dump in the coming months only because it is the original altcoin so to speak.

Bitcoin will be with high likelyness worthless 12 months from now. Pumping LTC to a decent cap makes sense because we need a coin to trade other coins against and too many people are repulsed and disgusted by Gavin and Bitcoin in general aswell as parts of this community. So a LTC pump makes a hell lot of sense from my point of view so the retards can make their circus and we don't need to care.

no it doesn't make sense, ltc is suffering the same problem of the TX limit, it doesn't affect it only because litecoin is ignored by everyone, no own care anymore about others coin, litecoin traffic is not on par on bitcoin, so 1MB maybe looks fine there, with 4 cats playing around

[crazyivan]

Pls, spread more FUD.

This is exactly what we need.

[newcripto]

Bitcoin is and will remain always the most innovated currency for last 100 years.Ups and downs in price never decide the fate of any thing.Bitcoin is just on right way and will have more and more adoption day by day.There are always changes to make the every tech more and more better to use in better way.

[muhrohmat]

yes new crypto i do agree with many people like you that say ttha btc its never dommed can be threaten but will survive and go to a good currency matter in price of dollars and euro theres like more 1% people using every day and with the possibiility of rise more and more people sites markets and communities will use it

[fat buddah]

[thedictator]

Bitcoins are not only for intelligent, wealthy people.

[QuestionAuthority]

Bitcoins are not only for intelligent, wealthy people.

FTFY

[bornil267645]

Bitcoin will remain intact no matter what some user try to say or do. If it was to falter, it would have already but it didn't. But if the bitcoin community starts to react like this, we will get chocked by our own smoke.

[ragi]

Bitcoin will remain intact no matter what some user try to say or do. If it was to falter, it would have already but it didn't. But if the bitcoin community starts to react like this, we will get chocked by our own smoke.

It will, because people are using it. Now even more. If something was wrong, that would've changed by now.

[not altcoin hitler]

Bitcoin will remain intact no matter what some user try to say or do. If it was to falter, it would have already but it didn't. But if the bitcoin community starts to react like this, we will get chocked by our own smoke.

It will, because people are using it. Now even more. If something was wrong, that would've changed by now.

Don't say that. People know Mc Donalds will kill them but still are going. Don't say people would be rational.

[desired_username]

I missed the constant FUD and drama.

[Searing]

1. probably its just overblown drama.  Consensus will
be reached.

2. I think the block size needs to increase, its
not "fuckery".

3. If a fork does happen, its bad for Bitcoin
but if you're HODLing , you'll have both
coins so you can wait and see what happens
when the dust settles.

not sure exactly what you mean by point 3 above ....explain (use small words.this whole topic makes my head hurt)

as to all this drama going 'public'

I mean sure you have disagreements but to air them in public ..you could not reach at least the consensus among the bitcoin devs for a statement like this before it all went public?

"at the present time we are considering moving to bigger block size and are using bitcoin-xt as a platform to look at this as a way to achieve consensus when it is
decided if it is in the best interests of bitcoin at the time (or not) to implement such*


I mean jeez.....I more concerned about the antics then I am they want to make the blocks bigger

but to the previous point ..still don't get what you mean by point 3 above

thanks

[Error404]

Bitcoin is never be gone many people are hoping that bitcoin is the answer to their problem for school daily needs and for family that they need us bitcoin helps to gain money using their brain and thats a good impluence for many people who did not studying

[jonald_fyookball]

1. probably its just overblown drama.  Consensus will
be reached.

2. I think the block size needs to increase, its
not "fuckery".

3. If a fork does happen, its bad for Bitcoin
but if you're HODLing , you'll have both
coins so you can wait and see what happens
when the dust settles.

not sure exactly what you mean by point 3 above ....explain (use small words.this whole topic makes my head hurt)

as to all this drama going 'public'

I mean sure you have disagreements but to air them in public ..you could not reach at least the consensus among the bitcoin devs for a statement like this before it all went public?

"at the present time we are considering moving to bigger block size and are using bitcoin-xt as a platform to look at this as a way to achieve consensus when it is
decided if it is in the best interests of bitcoin at the time (or not) to implement such*


I mean jeez.....I more concerned about the antics then I am they want to make the blocks bigger

but to the previous point ..still don't get what you mean by point 3 above

thanks

Been discussed many times..but basically, if the network forks...it means there's 2 different blockchains
that diverged from a previous state...since you had the coins in your wallet in the previous state,
you'll have the same coins on both forks of the chain...just wait till the dust settles and see which
chain becomes popular/de facto.

[MakingMoneyHoney]

1. probably its just overblown drama.  Consensus will
be reached.

2. I think the block size needs to increase, its
not "fuckery".

3. If a fork does happen, its bad for Bitcoin
but if you're HODLing , you'll have both
coins so you can wait and see what happens
when the dust settles.

not sure exactly what you mean by point 3 above ....explain (use small words.this whole topic makes my head hurt)

as to all this drama going 'public'

I mean sure you have disagreements but to air them in public ..you could not reach at least the consensus among the bitcoin devs for a statement like this before it all went public?

"at the present time we are considering moving to bigger block size and are using bitcoin-xt as a platform to look at this as a way to achieve consensus when it is
decided if it is in the best interests of bitcoin at the time (or not) to implement such*


I mean jeez.....I more concerned about the antics then I am they want to make the blocks bigger

but to the previous point ..still don't get what you mean by point 3 above

thanks

I tried to explain why people are saying their Bitcoins will double in this picture, maybe it will help someone understand it better:

[DooMAD]

This is getting tiresome now.  Either people are trying to troll or just very slow to understand.

the Bitcoin community shall be forced at gunpoint out of Bitcoin into Gavincoin. 

Yes, we're literally putting a gun to your head and forcing you to use an alternative client.      
Grow up and stop being a drama queen.  You're being given a choice.  You choose which version you're going to support.  I honestly can't tell how someone is finding a way to whine about being given a choice that makes it sound like you aren't being given a choice.  Several users are going on my ignore list after the fork happens and you're likely to be one of them.  I'd do it now but I need to see your idiotic posts in order to call you out on your BS.

That's bad. It's a disaster for the development of bitcoin. It's a bad things to give a single person too much power to effect the development of bitcoin .

I don't know how you could have it more backwards.  If Gavin was forcing his choice into Bitcoin core when the other devs are opposed, then that would be a sign of one person having too much power.  That's why Gavin is adding the code to another client and allowing the community to choose which one they prefer.  People were moaning when Gavin wanted to introduce the change in core and now they're moaning that he isn't.  You can't have it both ways.

So this will happen whether the other core developers agree or not, so much for reaching a consensus.
Clearly in this context consensus means 'My way or the highway......'

Anyone can release a client that supports a larger blocksize.  That's how open source software works.  If I knew how to code and wanted to introduce a change, there's absolutely nothing stopping me from publishing a modified client, but it doesn't mean everyone has to use it.  Consensus is reached when people mining and running full nodes choose to use that client or not.  Stop digging for drama where there isn't any.

[pitaluga]

http://cointelegraph.com/news/114481/chinese-exchanges-reject-gavin-andresens-20-mb-block-size-increase

just forget it

[not altcoin hitler]

http://cointelegraph.com/news/114481/chinese-exchanges-reject-gavin-andresens-20-mb-block-size-increase

just forget it

Glad not everyone is braindead. Thanks Huobi and BtcChina for saving Bitcoin  

It's hilarious that Exchange owners need to tell Gavin that stability is important. Gavin is a total amateur in every way. How much longer do we need to stand his numbness?
What does it take to demote him? Who decides that? Where to petition? Just ignore him and not use any of his bitcoin clients or what?

Please guys, hide him somewhere so the public doesn't need to see him much longer. He's an embarassement for bitcoin.

[BayAreaCoins]

http://cointelegraph.com/news/114481/chinese-exchanges-reject-gavin-andresens-20-mb-block-size-increase

just forget it

Glad not everyone is braindead. Thanks Huobi and BtcChina for saving Bitcoin  

It's hilarious that Exchange owners need to tell Gavin that stability is important. Gavin is a total amateur in every way. How much longer do we need to stand his numbness?
What does it take to demote him? Who decides that? Where to petition? Just ignore him and not use any of his bitcoin clients or what?

Please guys, hide him somewhere so the public doesn't need to see him much longer. He's an embarassement for bitcoin.

Ooooooo just leave Gavin be. 

I'm sure he's just trying to do what he thinks is best and so is everyone else.

[BillyBobZorton]

1. probably its just overblown drama.  Consensus will
be reached.

2. I think the block size needs to increase, its
not "fuckery".

3. If a fork does happen, its bad for Bitcoin
but if you're HODLing , you'll have both
coins so you can wait and see what happens
when the dust settles.

not sure exactly what you mean by point 3 above ....explain (use small words.this whole topic makes my head hurt)

as to all this drama going 'public'

I mean sure you have disagreements but to air them in public ..you could not reach at least the consensus among the bitcoin devs for a statement like this before it all went public?

"at the present time we are considering moving to bigger block size and are using bitcoin-xt as a platform to look at this as a way to achieve consensus when it is
decided if it is in the best interests of bitcoin at the time (or not) to implement such*


I mean jeez.....I more concerned about the antics then I am they want to make the blocks bigger

but to the previous point ..still don't get what you mean by point 3 above

thanks

I tried to explain why people are saying their Bitcoins will double in this picture, maybe it will help someone understand it better:

Hey, a million thanks for this. It explains pretty well why all this "OMG FORK JUMP!!!!" shit is absolutely a total FUDfest by someone with an agenda. This should be useful and posted everywhere when the FUDsters come.