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emidius (OP)
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August 11, 2015, 10:56:37 PM
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Hello All,

We veterans of the cryptocurrency world, as well as most new users, have found out by now fraud and scams are rampant in our little crypto-universe. Many also know (to their financial detriment), not only is it an easy thing for crafty thieves to do, it is virtually impossible to do anything about these crimes. The decentralization and anonymity that makes cryptocurrency such a great asset works to criminals advantage.

What many don't know is cryptocurrency is not completely anonymous. Block chains leave a trail. The problem is finding resources available to track these people down and make them pay for their crimes. Innocent people are being defrauded out of  'millions' of dollars in different cryptocurrency every day to scams and out right thieves.

The scams are all over the Internet and prey off your greed. 'Double in days'...HYIP with daily or weekly percentages which if the owners of these so called 'companies' could actually accomplish...they would be rich without you. The 'double your coins' scam should be obvious. Once again...if they could do this, why would they need you? WELL...they need you to pay off the few before you. Creating the illusion of actually making people money. Then once they get a few people willing to risk some real coin and/or they hit a high enough amount...they disappear. Common sense really is the best remedy for these situations.

Yet there are those scams so elaborate, so smart, pulling the 'long con' meaning they take their time, work slow, work smart, and probably even do some real business. You don't even see it coming when they pack up and disappear.

Then we have the cyber attackers, hijackers, blackmailers, or any combination thereof. They use any of the numerous means to access your computer and/or it's information and hold it ransom demanding 'usually bitcoin' to be paid in order to have your computer unlocked or regaining access to your data.

There are even times when they may find private or compromising information you don't want known by whomever, so they just blackmail you. This information does not have to be on your computer, it can come right from the Internet. Like say some juicy videos or images on some social network, cyber cheating...you get the idea.

We have some good contacts, (The FBI Internet Fraud Division, National Fraud Intelligence Bureau in the UK,  and The Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation), but usually these agencies will only get involved if the amount of money involved is quite significant. OR...leads to or involves some other high value crimes: drug rings, kidnappings, forced prostitution, slave trade, child porn, and/or murder. These are not even close to as rare as most people believe, but are actually and sadly quite common and many times funded by everything mentioned above.

So what we need are contacts...as many as possible. Any and every person, group, association, business, and law enforcement agency, in every country/territory in the entire world that deals with cyber crime. Please...respond here or send us any information you have. It's time victims of cryptocurrency crimes have some type of recourse. The crimes will never completely stop, but once criminals KNOW they can be identified, and they will be charged, these types of crimes will fall drastically.

So I beg of you to reply or send us every contact that you know of or can locate, from every territory in the world. Also please pass this to friends, family, and acquaintances.If you can, please translate this and help spread the world. REMEMBER these crimes many times involve the more heinous crimes mentioned above!

When providing the information please include as much detail and contact information as possible. For those of you reading this somewhere other than our website, we can be found at:

BitCoin Scam Watch and Fraud Investigations
http://scam-watch.bitcoinheaven.net/
scam-watch@cyberservices.com
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August 12, 2015, 12:16:45 AM
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You seem to hover around a lot of topics but let me take a stab at answering/projecting my opinion.

First off, people should only ever invest as much as they are willing to lose.
Secondly, I think your approach of going after scammers via every available channel (blockchain tracking, agencies) is flat out wrong and inefficient for several reasons. Let me start by saying that even though scamming is indeed rampant in crypto circles, everything that scammers can do in crypto is being done with FIAT on a daily basis as well. Cryptocurrencies are nothing but a tool that can be used for both good and bad. Same goes for FIAT regardless of government influence. Scams, frauds ands drug deals are going down everyday with USD so we really shouldn't expect anything else in crypto.


Regarding double your money schemes; it should be always obvious that these sites have a pyramid-scheme type of structure. And there's nothing wrong with pyramid schemes as long as the site is straightforward about it becasue they are simply just a form of gambling just like dice games or many others.

Long cons, cyber thiefs and whatnot; it's exactly the same as the FIAT world, so why should we treat cryptos differently? I mean you can get hacked or you can get robbed at gunpoint there really isn't much of a difference from safety perspective.

It's also worth nothing that cryptocurrencies are international and there isn't a single agency that has jurisdiction over the whole crypto scene. And I'm happy that it is the case as I don't want to rely an any agency because as we all know every single entitiy with authority is subject to corruption.

So really, all the agencies you have mentioned only provide a false sense of security for people who don't know any better - which is why I think your approach is wrong.

So what I think is more important is to educate people in crypto about what they can and cannot expect and how to defend themselves. People know not to walk in shady streets at night with all their money in their pockets and similarily people should also know they shouldn't trust other people in crypto and should also take the necessary precautions to keep them safe because at the end of the day the only reason scams exist is because they are profitbale due to people not knowing any better.

Not your keys, not your coins!
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