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September 16, 2015, 12:39:18 PM
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Also, every time a person buy/sell an account, child pr0n, drugs, personal dox, guns he/she is in fact doing a trade with bitcoin, and hence increase its usage.

FTFY.

Every time an account gets sold and bought on Bitcointalk, Theymos gets another pineapple shoved up his ass in hell.

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September 16, 2015, 03:04:51 PM
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Bitcointalk does not mind the signature spammers so long as the posts are not 2-3 word replies. You can openly admit to posting only to get paid here. I would guess there are people with 3-4 accounts making a couple BTC per month posting. I am sure that in some 3rd world countries a couple BTC per month is a good income to live on.

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September 16, 2015, 03:28:48 PM
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Bitcointalk does not mind the signature spammers so long as the posts are not 2-3 word replies. You can openly admit to posting only to get paid here. I would guess there are people with 3-4 accounts making a couple BTC per month posting. I am sure that in some 3rd world countries a couple BTC per month is a good income to live on.

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September 16, 2015, 03:37:11 PM
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Don't agree. Everyone have the right to try to earn in a honest way and I don't see any cheat in buying high accounts in rank to earn more. Everything can do this. No any restriction for everyone. So, even the author of this thread, if want, can buy one account more profitable than that he own and try to join one signature campaign and earn more than its actual status.
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September 16, 2015, 03:38:01 PM
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Bitcointalk does not mind the signature spammers so long as the posts are not 2-3 word replies. You can openly admit to posting only to get paid here. I would guess there are people with 3-4 accounts making a couple BTC per month posting. I am sure that in some 3rd world countries a couple BTC per month is a good income to live on.

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That is some money....

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September 16, 2015, 04:55:53 PM
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Bitcointalk does not mind the signature spammers so long as the posts are not 2-3 word replies. You can openly admit to posting only to get paid here. I would guess there are people with 3-4 accounts making a couple BTC per month posting. I am sure that in some 3rd world countries a couple BTC per month is a good income to live on.



I can't imagine someone who uses 3-4 accounts.   I love the forums and frequent it pretty often, posting daily.   My love of mining keeps me glued to that side of the forum.

But if you did 3-4 accounts of high activity I would think you would be doing more work then an actual job.   At that point you are truly making it a job, which is not one I would want as far as pay per hour.    Just seems crazy the amount of hours they would have to put in.

I like sig campaigns as it gives a little "fun" money for posting I would do normally.   So works good for me.  I hope they keep sig campaigns but if they dropped them from forum I would still be here posting.
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September 16, 2015, 06:44:41 PM
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Better thing to suggest than "go and buy an account and participate in a campaign" is "Go get a job.". Cheesy
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September 16, 2015, 06:49:48 PM
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Better thing to suggest than "go and buy an account and participate in a campaign" is "Go get a job.". Cheesy

The trouble arises when, for some, signature campaigns represent payouts that are as good or better than a job they could get. In the case of minors, those living in very poor regions, disabled or otherwise mostly house-bound people, this is not unreasonable. You also have to consider that for some, the value of the account(s) to be sold at a later date factors into the wage as well.

The issue is signature campaigns. As long as they are tolerated on the forum, this will never go away. This recurrent discussion is pretty pointless IMO.

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September 16, 2015, 08:59:24 PM
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Better thing to suggest than "go and buy an account and participate in a campaign" is "Go get a job.". Cheesy

The trouble arises when, for some, signature campaigns represent payouts that are as good or better than a job they could get. In the case of minors, those living in very poor regions, disabled or otherwise mostly house-bound people, this is not unreasonable. You also have to consider that for some, the value of the account(s) to be sold at a later date factors into the wage as well.

The issue is signature campaigns. As long as they are tolerated on the forum, this will never go away. This recurrent discussion is pretty pointless IMO.

I don't know how true this is.   For them to be doing this they need solid electricity, stable internet as were talking about lots of posts, and a computer amoung other things.

I don't think in the very poor regions they will have computers with internet.   Just not the case for the most part I'm sure you can find a few,  but overall the up front costs of computer and electricity and internet most in regions like were talking about could not afford it.

I know there is a market as it seems it's a issue.  I just don't think it's coming from these regions.  On minors, disabled/house bound you do have some valid possible users doing this.
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September 16, 2015, 09:18:37 PM
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Better thing to suggest than "go and buy an account and participate in a campaign" is "Go get a job.". Cheesy

The trouble arises when, for some, signature campaigns represent payouts that are as good or better than a job they could get. In the case of minors, those living in very poor regions, disabled or otherwise mostly house-bound people, this is not unreasonable. You also have to consider that for some, the value of the account(s) to be sold at a later date factors into the wage as well.

The issue is signature campaigns. As long as they are tolerated on the forum, this will never go away. This recurrent discussion is pretty pointless IMO.

I don't know how true this is.   For them to be doing this they need solid electricity, stable internet as were talking about lots of posts, and a computer amoung other things.

I don't think in the very poor regions they will have computers with internet.   Just not the case for the most part I'm sure you can find a few,  but overall the up front costs of computer and electricity and internet most in regions like were talking about could not afford it.

I know there is a market as it seems it's a issue.  I just don't think it's coming from these regions.  On minors, disabled/house bound you do have some valid possible users doing this.

Electricity, internet and a computer are not a problem for someone living with their parents, nor someone living on disability. But these were just a couple of examples. There are others to be sure. Also, there are no doubt those who don't care about the fiat-denominated value (they believe the price of bitcoin will rise) and/or don't need to immediately liquidate earnings. There are many who participate in signature campaigns while on their day job; it is purely supplemental.

And poor regions =/= complete lack of infrastructure. First, we have to consider relative wages. And second, even the poorest regions are not without internet by any means, especially as mobile/smartphone technology has proliferated in poor regions to such a great extent in recent years.


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September 17, 2015, 12:44:47 AM
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[quote author=twister link=topic=1181171.msg12427849#msg1
So can I report such posts which suggests newbies to buy accounts to Mods and hope that they get removed? I think all this account buying/selling does more bad than good and it should atleast not be recommended to newbies.  Undecided
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It would be contradictory if such posts are allowed to be reported.If members are suggesting something which is allowed here,getting reported for it would amount to unfairness towards them
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September 17, 2015, 10:17:14 AM
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Buying and Selling accounts in this forum is not against the rule(atleast i never found written it somewhere)
so my question to OP is what is wrong if someone helps newbee to earn some bitcoins by joining signature compaign and thus buying a high level account? and yes i am not saying to promote spam...Maybe the newbee just bought the account to post qualitative posts to earn some coins...what is wrong in that?
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September 17, 2015, 10:30:31 AM
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Buying and Selling accounts in this forum is not against the rule(atleast i never found written it somewhere)
so my question to OP is what is wrong if someone helps newbee to earn some bitcoins by joining signature compaign and thus buying a high level account? and yes i am not saying to promote spam...Maybe the newbee just bought the account to post qualitative posts to earn some coins...what is wrong in that?

It's discouraged but you're right, nevermind.

Not going to report any posts related to this matter as it would lower my good reports score and that bothers me.

Thanks everyone for your input.
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