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October 08, 2015, 08:39:53 PM
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... if you have a DNA-sequencer at home and access to the sample mentioned in the following talk (at min 15):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU6yFqJQARM

The corresponding page:

https://www.ebi.ac.uk/research/goldman/dna-storage

So you have to ask Mr. Goldman for sending a sample.

If I am not mistaken, the coin is still available:

https://blockchain.info/address/19vudYio7R61dSJpi1kEdAV6brjSFUzU7K

Sequencing currently costs roughly 1 cent per Megabase if I interpreted the following graphic correctly:

http://www.genome.gov/images/content/cost_per_megabase_oct2015.jpg

There also should be enough sequencing services around, but it might cost more than 1 cent I guess. However, it might be still cheap for gaining access to roughly 250$.

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October 08, 2015, 09:17:32 PM
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I just watched 20-minutes into that video and I'm impressed. I like the direction that computing technology is headed and I see a very bright future for bitcoin indeed. Bitcoin is the wave of the future and I'm happy to see great minds adopting the concept of cryptography into digital currency. I wish I had a DNA sequencer to handle the task , and a DNA sample of course Tongue
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October 08, 2015, 09:37:22 PM
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I just watched 20-minutes into that video and I'm impressed. I like the direction that computing technology is headed and I see a very bright future for bitcoin indeed. Bitcoin is the wave of the future and I'm happy to see great minds adopting the concept of cryptography into digital currency. I wish I had a DNA sequencer to handle the task , and a DNA sample of course Tongue
This offer is only valid because it is not FREE. I doubt that even 1 person in a 10.000.000 has that piece of equipment needed for this service.
And if you have something sophisticated like this you probably don't care about 1 bitcoin because you are rich already.
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October 09, 2015, 05:43:34 AM
Last edit: October 09, 2015, 06:03:12 AM by curiosity81
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I just watched 20-minutes into that video and I'm impressed. I like the direction that computing technology is headed and I see a very bright future for bitcoin indeed. Bitcoin is the wave of the future and I'm happy to see great minds adopting the concept of cryptography into digital currency. I wish I had a DNA sequencer to handle the task , and a DNA sample of course Tongue
This offer is only valid because it is not FREE. I doubt that even 1 person in a 10.000.000 has that piece of equipment needed for this service.
And if you have something sophisticated like this you probably don't care about 1 bitcoin because you are rich already.

That is not true. The only problem here is, that you must gain access to the DNA-sample. The sequencing is the least problem.

DNA sequencing is a standard problem and done daily by biologists. They either have a DNA-sequencing machine in their lab or they know the corresponding service provider for sequencing. Using a service provider, the sample would be sent to the service and, some days later, one would get a message, that the sequence is available online. Those services are not restricted to academia.

https://www.nucleics.com/DNA_sequencing_support/sequencing-service-choosing.html

The question is the price for a sample of a sequence with, lets say, around 128 base pairs for the 256 bit private key (each base encodes 2 bits since there are four different bases, A,C,G and T, in contrast to the binary code with 0 and 1). Actually, this could be done quite easily by a PhD-student or similar during their usual work.

That someone earns this bitcoin is still not very likely. First you must be a biologist so that you know how to handle DNA and stuff. Scientists are often (but not all!) "Fachidioten" (Nerd is not the correct term). That is, either they know their stuff, but they do not know bitcoin, or they know bitcoin but are no scientist. It is right, those people are often financially secured (or at least they think they are). Second, as mentioned, the biologist must know bitcoin so that he/she can import and export private keys. And third, he/she must almost be a computer scientist being able converting the DNA-sequence to bits, then to bytes and then to the corresponding string which involves the usage of the "black window". Biologists hate the "black window", they want fancy GUIs.

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October 09, 2015, 05:53:32 AM
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Anyone who is currently working in the pathology field or maybe at a prestige uni/collage could most likely gain access to the equipment needed.
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October 09, 2015, 05:58:19 AM
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I just watched 20-minutes into that video and I'm impressed. I like the direction that computing technology is headed and I see a very bright future for bitcoin indeed. Bitcoin is the wave of the future and I'm happy to see great minds adopting the concept of cryptography into digital currency. I wish I had a DNA sequencer to handle the task , and a DNA sample of course Tongue
This offer is only valid because it is not FREE. I doubt that even 1 person in a 10.000.000 has that piece of equipment needed for this service.
And if you have something sophisticated like this you probably don't care about 1 bitcoin because you are rich already.

It almost feels like a slap in the face when I'm barely making rent for them to dangle $200+ in my face D:
He's got the wallet.dat on the DNA sequence, but I bet he has a back-up somewhere not on DNA .. That's what we've gotta find, hahaha.
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October 09, 2015, 06:10:42 AM
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I just watched 20-minutes into that video and I'm impressed. I like the direction that computing technology is headed and I see a very bright future for bitcoin indeed. Bitcoin is the wave of the future and I'm happy to see great minds adopting the concept of cryptography into digital currency. I wish I had a DNA sequencer to handle the task , and a DNA sample of course Tongue
This offer is only valid because it is not FREE. I doubt that even 1 person in a 10.000.000 has that piece of equipment needed for this service.
And if you have something sophisticated like this you probably don't care about 1 bitcoin because you are rich already.

It almost feels like a slap in the face when I'm barely making rent for them to dangle $200+ in my face D:
He's got the wallet.dat on the DNA sequence, but I bet he has a back-up somewhere not on DNA .. That's what we've gotta find, hahaha.

If you watched the video carefully, you should have noticed, that Mr. Goldman's concept is to

USE DNA FOR BACKUP!

Consequently, he should only have the DNA-sequence.

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October 09, 2015, 06:47:01 AM
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Anyone who is currently working in the pathology field or maybe at a prestige uni/collage could most likely gain access to the equipment needed.

The biggest problem with these machines is that they are usually fully booked. It will be very difficult to just test a sample for this reason.

It's the same as using a supercomputer for bitcoin mining, and you know what happened to those people Wink
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Anyone who is currently working in the pathology field or maybe at a prestige uni/collage could most likely gain access to the equipment needed.
The biggest problem with these machines is that they are usually fully booked. It will be very difficult to just test a sample for this reason.

It's the same as using a supercomputer for bitcoin mining, and you know what happened to those people Wink
What was it, There was a guy using a college supercomputer to scrypt mine and had to pay them back and lost his job?

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October 09, 2015, 09:53:08 AM
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Anyone who is currently working in the pathology field or maybe at a prestige uni/collage could most likely gain access to the equipment needed.

Looked it up and yep got one at a uni nearby so fairly sure any research uni has one or two lying around for use $6 Sequence reads to ~ 1,000 bases using ABI BigDye Terminator chemistry
Of course you need to book it get the sample from the guy and know how to decode it
That said it is an interesting project

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