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I have sent the payment, he will confirm. Those who left negative feedback please take it back. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) @master-P,@Blazed,@james.lent Also i have tried to update him about the situations when i was online but he was somewhat in hurry and put up this thread.
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November 16, 2015, 02:26:42 PM |
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I tried to tell everyone not to jump the gun about calling Jakez a scammer, because I knew that the only thing that could keep him from resolving an issue around here, especially for such a small amount would have to be something serious. Thanks for clearing things up Jakez, and you should never rush to make a scam report because I'm sure this could've been handled smoother
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November 16, 2015, 02:51:48 PM |
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Well my case was understandable, it took like 6 days to receive my payment. I'm sorry I had to open a scam report. But I had no choice.
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November 16, 2015, 02:54:06 PM |
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Well my case was understandable, it took like 6 days to receive my payment. I'm sorry I had to open a scam report. But I had no choice.
I don't blame ya. Did he at least say why it took 6 days? A warning should be kept so others know they are getting themselves in a MITM deal.
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November 16, 2015, 02:57:49 PM |
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I tried to tell everyone not to jump the gun about calling Jakez a scammer, because I knew that the only thing that could keep him from resolving an issue around here, especially for such a small amount would have to be something serious. Thanks for clearing things up Jakez, and you should never rush to make a scam report because I'm sure this could've been handled smoother The gun was not jumped at all here and OP did the right thing. MITM trades are always bad and Jake should have had the funds to cover it rather than making OP wait. This was poor trading on Jakez part...
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Jakez
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November 16, 2015, 03:16:12 PM |
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Well my case was understandable, it took like 6 days to receive my payment. I'm sorry I had to open a scam report. But I had no choice.
I don't blame ya. Did he at least say why it took 6 days? A warning should be kept so others know they are getting themselves in a MITM deal. On what way you put the warning. Did you go through entire thread ? I have clearly said to him through PM that the user where i sold asked for a refund in my site by saying code which is not working, and i have to wait till that sorted. I have asked for some time to get sort this thing. Still the code hasn't been confirmed but i released the payment due to this thread.
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bill gator
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November 16, 2015, 03:21:30 PM |
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I understand that 6-days is an extremely long time to wait for a resolution from a member regarding an instant transaction, and I totally can understand why the scam accusation was reported. I am not trying to say that it was unwarranted, but what i am saying is that I am sure Jakez entered this trade with the best intentions.
I do not think a warning should be displayed in Jakez trust, sh*t happens and he's standing with the shovel and that's gotta count for something. He deals honestly, but made an admitted mistake. I'm sure in the future he will handle things differently.
EDIT : Neutral trust is fair, though and I see no problem with that.
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November 16, 2015, 03:22:03 PM |
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I tried to tell everyone not to jump the gun about calling Jakez a scammer, because I knew that the only thing that could keep him from resolving an issue around here, especially for such a small amount would have to be something serious. Thanks for clearing things up Jakez, and you should never rush to make a scam report because I'm sure this could've been handled smoother The gun was not jumped at all here and OP did the right thing. MITM trades are always bad and Jake should have had the funds to cover it rather than making OP wait. This was poor trading on Jakez part... I had and i have always have the fund for the deals. I have made a similar deal in bitify for some xbox and released escrow once i received the code. Once i put the codes in my site few of them were used. So i lost some money when i contacted back in Skype and there was no response. I will always ask some time for xbox and game keys for getting verified and sold. This time it took some time more but i sent a PM by asking some extension. After that i went out of town for some personal emergency for the few days and its delayed again. Why i asked for the extension i clearly stated above.
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November 16, 2015, 03:27:07 PM |
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I understand that 6-days is an extremely long time to wait for a resolution from a member regarding an instant transaction, and I totally can understand why the scam accusation was reported. I am not trying to say that it was unwarranted, but what i am saying is that I am sure Jakez entered this trade with the best intentions.
I do not think a warning should be displayed in Jakez trust, sh*t happens and he's standing with the shovel and that's gotta count for something. He deals honestly, but made an admitted mistake. I'm sure in the future he will handle things differently.
EDIT : Neutral trust is fair, though and I see no problem with that.
Thanks for supporting in the entire thread ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . There was a proper reason for why i have delayed the payment. There was an issue with the code as per the user support ticket in the site where i sold the card. Regarding that i have sent him a message, from that day itself i went out for an emergency where i didn't have a chance to access the forum. In the meantime he created the thread.
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November 16, 2015, 03:35:41 PM |
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I understand that 6-days is an extremely long time to wait for a resolution from a member regarding an instant transaction, and I totally can understand why the scam accusation was reported. I am not trying to say that it was unwarranted, but what i am saying is that I am sure Jakez entered this trade with the best intentions.
I do not think a warning should be displayed in Jakez trust, sh*t happens and he's standing with the shovel and that's gotta count for something. He deals honestly, but made an admitted mistake. I'm sure in the future he will handle things differently.
EDIT : Neutral trust is fair, though and I see no problem with that.
Thanks for supporting in the entire thread ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . There was a proper reason for why i have delayed the payment. There was an issue with the code as per the user support ticket in the site where i sold the card. Regarding that i have sent him a message, from that day itself i went out for an emergency where i didn't have a chance to access the forum. In the meantime he created the thread. As I said before, I am just happy to see that all has been resolved. Alls well that ends well, and hopefully Master-P can update his trust and have you back on your feet ASAP! I can generally tell whether a user has bad intentions or not, and in your case I have only ever seen good business tactics. I hope your emergency has been taken care of to the fullest and doesn't trouble your life any longer. Mis-communication can be a burden D:
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November 16, 2015, 03:40:00 PM |
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Well my case was understandable, it took like 6 days to receive my payment. I'm sorry I had to open a scam report. But I had no choice.
I don't blame ya. Did he at least say why it took 6 days? A warning should be kept so others know they are getting themselves in a MITM deal. On what way you put the warning. Did you go through entire thread ? I have clearly said to him through PM that the user where i sold asked for a refund in my site by saying code which is not working, and i have to wait till that sorted. I have asked for some time to get sort this thing. Still the code hasn't been confirmed but i released the payment due to this thread. You didn't make sure the code was valid before reselling it, before paying for the code yourself? What if whoever bought the code from you lied? You did a MITM deal, was librty aware of this? These deals are risking. Next time I suggest you validate the code yourself, pay and then resell unless the original seller is fully aware that he will be paid only after you resell the code.
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November 16, 2015, 03:51:13 PM |
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Well my case was understandable, it took like 6 days to receive my payment. I'm sorry I had to open a scam report. But I had no choice.
I don't blame ya. Did he at least say why it took 6 days? A warning should be kept so others know they are getting themselves in a MITM deal. On what way you put the warning. Did you go through entire thread ? I have clearly said to him through PM that the user where i sold asked for a refund in my site by saying code which is not working, and i have to wait till that sorted. I have asked for some time to get sort this thing. Still the code hasn't been confirmed but i released the payment due to this thread. You didn't make sure the code was valid before reselling it, before paying for the code yourself? What if whoever bought the code from you lied? You did a MITM deal, was librty aware of this? Codes were valid when he sold, but on my site the user raised a support on the code and the ticket was in progress. I have requested for the proof but he didn't send that yet. I thought i could send the money once its resolved. But he was in a hurry and i was away.
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November 16, 2015, 04:02:46 PM Last edit: November 16, 2015, 04:17:55 PM by xetsr |
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Well my case was understandable, it took like 6 days to receive my payment. I'm sorry I had to open a scam report. But I had no choice.
I don't blame ya. Did he at least say why it took 6 days? A warning should be kept so others know they are getting themselves in a MITM deal. On what way you put the warning. Did you go through entire thread ? I have clearly said to him through PM that the user where i sold asked for a refund in my site by saying code which is not working, and i have to wait till that sorted. I have asked for some time to get sort this thing. Still the code hasn't been confirmed but i released the payment due to this thread. You didn't make sure the code was valid before reselling it, before paying for the code yourself? What if whoever bought the code from you lied? You did a MITM deal, was librty aware of this? Codes were valid when he sold, but on my site the user raised a support on the code and the ticket was in progress. I have requested for the proof but he didn't send that yet. I thought i could send the money once its resolved. But he was in a hurry and i was away. See what I'm saying though? You should have paid when you validated the codes instead of waiting to resell. You wouldn't mind waiting 6 days for a payment? You will be the one to take the blame being the man in the middle if anything goes wrong. I suggest you stop doing this or expect a scam accusation or negative feedback when a deal goes bad.
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November 16, 2015, 05:04:36 PM |
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Well my case was understandable, it took like 6 days to receive my payment. I'm sorry I had to open a scam report. But I had no choice.
I don't blame ya. Did he at least say why it took 6 days? A warning should be kept so others know they are getting themselves in a MITM deal. On what way you put the warning. Did you go through entire thread ? I have clearly said to him through PM that the user where i sold asked for a refund in my site by saying code which is not working, and i have to wait till that sorted. I have asked for some time to get sort this thing. Still the code hasn't been confirmed but i released the payment due to this thread. You didn't make sure the code was valid before reselling it, before paying for the code yourself? What if whoever bought the code from you lied? You did a MITM deal, was librty aware of this? Codes were valid when he sold, but on my site the user raised a support on the code and the ticket was in progress. I have requested for the proof but he didn't send that yet. I thought i could send the money once its resolved. But he was in a hurry and i was away. See what I'm saying though? You should have paid when you validated the codes instead of waiting to resell. You wouldn't mind waiting 6 days for a payment? You will be the one to take the blame being the man in the middle if anything goes wrong. I suggest you stop doing this or expect a scam accusation or negative feedback when a deal goes bad. Usually codes are getting sold within minutes. This time they raised the support ticket for that particular code and everything delayed. I have made lot of deals here without any issue, this was our first deal and i took the precaution.
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November 16, 2015, 05:29:41 PM |
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Yes but I did not agree to wait until you sold the item to receive my payment. Also, codes can be verified instantly on Microsoft website without redeeming. That is why I thought you scammed me, you didn't reply to me for 6 days
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November 16, 2015, 05:42:16 PM |
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Yes but I did not agree to wait until you sold the item to receive my payment. Also, codes can be verified instantly on Microsoft website without redeeming. That is why I thought you scammed me, you didn't reply to me for 6 days
Once our conversation started i clearly mentioned that i need some time for getting its sold in the site. Once its sold they have raised the support ticket and i should wait to get the status updated or else i'm going to lose that money. So i waited.
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November 16, 2015, 06:20:47 PM |
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Yes but I did not agree to wait until you sold the item to receive my payment. Also, codes can be verified instantly on Microsoft website without redeeming. That is why I thought you scammed me, you didn't reply to me for 6 days
Once our conversation started i clearly mentioned that i need some time for getting its sold in the site. Once its sold they have raised the support ticket and i should wait to get the status updated or else i'm going to lose that money. So i waited. I never agreed to that, you told me after I sent you the code. Also you said you need time to validate the code, not to sell it. Validation is instant.
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November 16, 2015, 06:41:53 PM |
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Yes but I did not agree to wait until you sold the item to receive my payment. Also, codes can be verified instantly on Microsoft website without redeeming. That is why I thought you scammed me, you didn't reply to me for 6 days
Once our conversation started i clearly mentioned that i need some time for getting its sold in the site. Once its sold they have raised the support ticket and i should wait to get the status updated or else i'm going to lose that money. So i waited. I never agreed to that, you told me after I sent you the code. Also you said you need time to validate the code, not to sell it. Validation is instant. This is now a private argument. Although, to some, it may be entertaining, please message each other via PM as there is no point to write this here when you are just talking to each other, is there? Also, now this is resolved, please lock the thread?
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