Earth-like world could be 'most important planet found outside solar system'

[notbatman]

^ the title is misleading. ...snip...

Misleading? LOL

We don't even live in solar system, you'll end up in the middle of nowhere reading that article!

[galdur]

260C isn't a liveable temperature. I don't think there is another earth.
They should instead focus more on improving the planet NOT abandon earth and move to whichever they think is a liveable planet.  Because we'll still exploit that planet in the end and move again to another if there really exist such planet.

We´re not going to let lousy 260 degrees celsius stop us. We´ll just spend 500 trillion dollars over the next century developing technical means to survive splendidly there. 

[BADecker]

Part of the purpose of the forum is to talk. Some of the talk involves serious things. Some involves silliness and humor. Some involves dreams. Some just chatter.

We all dream, but when we are done dreaming, we need to get down to earth just to survive.

The idea of living on some other planet light-years away is a dream. Without some form of science - that doesn't seem available anytime in the near future (maybe hundreds of years) - when dream time is over, we need to realize that the odds are greatly against us living nearly long enough to see the science, much less going somewhere like another star.

Now that we have the dream firmly embedded, let's focus on making the science real, so that some of our descendants' descendants might have a shot at it.

[Triple]

None of this is important, although it might be very exciting to the dreamers.

Why isn't it important? 'Cause odds are that nobody in the near future will ever go there.

The moon shots back in the '60s were all a lie. We never went to the moon. NASA BSed us and scammed us by faking it all.

Shut down the space program. It's all a lie. If anyone can do it on his own - a private company - let him do it. But stop wasting the taxpayer's money to enrich the fat-cats who have lied to us for decades.

Oh god. Are you really one of those people that think the moon landing was fake? The 'evidence' you told us to google is just other people like you finding anything that might seem skeptical.

[galdur]

None of this is important, although it might be very exciting to the dreamers.

Why isn't it important? 'Cause odds are that nobody in the near future will ever go there.

The moon shots back in the '60s were all a lie. We never went to the moon. NASA BSed us and scammed us by faking it all.

Shut down the space program. It's all a lie. If anyone can do it on his own - a private company - let him do it. But stop wasting the taxpayer's money to enrich the fat-cats who have lied to us for decades.

Oh god. Are you really one of those people that think the moon landing was fake? The 'evidence' you told us to google is just other people like you finding anything that might seem skeptical.

I don´t know if they really went to the moon. It was a huge gravy-train while it lasted but since then it has all been downhill and now they´re barely in space at all. You would think that if they really went to the moon they´d have at least a small Walmart there 50 years later. They say they may go back to the moon some day but they also talk about radiation problems. Of course it´s understandable that they´re having problems now, they lost a lot of blueprints and taped over history´s most important footage and generally don´t seem to have much of a clue. They make cute pictures of planets 250 trillion miles away though.

[BADecker]

None of this is important, although it might be very exciting to the dreamers.

Why isn't it important? 'Cause odds are that nobody in the near future will ever go there.

The moon shots back in the '60s were all a lie. We never went to the moon. NASA BSed us and scammed us by faking it all.

Shut down the space program. It's all a lie. If anyone can do it on his own - a private company - let him do it. But stop wasting the taxpayer's money to enrich the fat-cats who have lied to us for decades.

Oh god. Are you really one of those people that think the moon landing was fake? The 'evidence' you told us to google is just other people like you finding anything that might seem skeptical.

You weren't talking to me when you said, "oh god," were you? Because if you were, you might be considered to be an unbeliever.

As for moon landing faking, the only thing that any of us have to go on is hearsay. Let the people who did it get on the stand and speak into the record under oath or affirmation that the moon landings are truthful. Or do you have such testimony already?

[BADecker]

None of this is important, although it might be very exciting to the dreamers.

Why isn't it important? 'Cause odds are that nobody in the near future will ever go there.

The moon shots back in the '60s were all a lie. We never went to the moon. NASA BSed us and scammed us by faking it all.

Shut down the space program. It's all a lie. If anyone can do it on his own - a private company - let him do it. But stop wasting the taxpayer's money to enrich the fat-cats who have lied to us for decades.

Oh god. Are you really one of those people that think the moon landing was fake? The 'evidence' you told us to google is just other people like you finding anything that might seem skeptical.

I don´t know if they really went to the moon. It was a huge gravy-train while it lasted but since then it has all been downhill and now they´re barely in space at all. You would think that if they really went to the moon they´d have at least a small Walmart there 50 years later. They say they may go back to the moon some day but they also talk about radiation problems. Of course it´s understandable that they´re having problems now, they lost a lot of blueprints and taped over history´s most important footage and generally don´t seem to have much of a clue. They make cute pictures of planets 250 trillion miles away though.

Right! And in the new Orion space program, they have gone back to using a space capsule. I mean, the devolution in space exploration is showing the devolution in mankind.

[Spendulus]

None of this is important, although it might be very exciting to the dreamers.

Why isn't it important? 'Cause odds are that nobody in the near future will ever go there.

The moon shots back in the '60s were all a lie. We never went to the moon. NASA BSed us and scammed us by faking it all.

Shut down the space program. It's all a lie. If anyone can do it on his own - a private company - let him do it. But stop wasting the taxpayer's money to enrich the fat-cats who have lied to us for decades.

Oh god. Are you really one of those people that think the moon landing was fake? The 'evidence' you told us to google is just other people like you finding anything that might seem skeptical.

Well, then I'd like to know what exactly was fake.  That Apollo rockets launched?  That they went to low earth orbit?  that they orbited the moon then returned?  That the LEM descended to the surface?

Oh, and we'll have to figure out how to explain the funny craters the Apollo 3rd stages made impacting the Moon.

http://news.discovery.com/space/history-of-space/when-part-of-apollo-13-reached-the-moon-130516.htm

Also there's a big problem with the rocks they brought back.  I guess they could have been actually brought back by little green men since we never went to the Moon?  Because those rocks are definitely from another world.

http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/howdoweknow.htm

Not to mention the fact that LCROSS has photographed the Apollo landing sites.  You can pretty much see the footprints and every track of the rovers on the last three missions.  Here's one.

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/multimedia/lroimages/lroc_20091028_apollo.html#.VkkRjspNEgQ

So where is this argument going?

[BADecker]

None of this is important, although it might be very exciting to the dreamers.

Why isn't it important? 'Cause odds are that nobody in the near future will ever go there.

The moon shots back in the '60s were all a lie. We never went to the moon. NASA BSed us and scammed us by faking it all.

Shut down the space program. It's all a lie. If anyone can do it on his own - a private company - let him do it. But stop wasting the taxpayer's money to enrich the fat-cats who have lied to us for decades.

Oh god. Are you really one of those people that think the moon landing was fake? The 'evidence' you told us to google is just other people like you finding anything that might seem skeptical.

Well, then I'd like to know what exactly was fake.  That Apollo rockets launched?  That they went to low earth orbit?  that they orbited the moon then returned?  That the LEM descended to the surface?

Oh, and we'll have to figure out how to explain the funny craters the Apollo 3rd stages made impacting the Moon.

http://news.discovery.com/space/history-of-space/when-part-of-apollo-13-reached-the-moon-130516.htm

Also there's a big problem with the rocks they brought back.  I guess they could have been actually brought back by little green men since we never went to the Moon?  Because those rocks are definitely from another world.

http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/howdoweknow.htm

Not to mention the fact that LCROSS has photographed the Apollo landing sites.  You can pretty much see the footprints and every track of the rovers on the last three missions.  Here's one.

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/multimedia/lroimages/lroc_20091028_apollo.html#.VkkRjspNEgQ

So where is this argument going?

I haven't been there. I haven't even seen the "tracks" of Apollo through a super telescope. All I have to rely on is the word of NASA. And the word is hearsay, or have they spoken it into the record in court under oath or affirmation?

[galdur]

I can make out Rudolph all right but where´s Santa ??

https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/images/397621main_ap17_1st50km_4release.jpg

[BADecker]

I can make out Rudolph all right but where´s Santa ??

https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/images/397621main_ap17_1st50km_4release.jpg

Some really good artists did this one.

[notbatman]

... snip ...
Well, then I'd like to know what exactly was fake.  ...snip...

NASA didn't just fake going to the Moon, they faked everything. The Sun, the stars, space, the planets, the solar system, Earth; absolutely every image is fake.

The Earth is flat and the Sun & Moon orbit above.

[galdur]

It´s possible that this flat earth nonsense or the recent eruption of it is a psyop from NASA to divert attention from that moon thing. They piss in the well hoping that nobody uses it if you catch my drift.

The main problem with the moon landings as far as NASA is concerned, is that the more time that passes the worse the story looks. NASA is but a shadow of its former self now nobody can deny that.

[Spoetnik]

what the OP said based on spectrography we can deduce the likely hood of life and much more.

A spectrograph is an instrument used to separate and measure the wavelengths present in Electromagnetic radiation and to measure the relative amounts of radiation at each wavelength. In other words obtain and record the spectral content of light or its 'spectrum'.

if you see oxygen it was most likely from organic life.. yeah that -is- news.

i also think the Moon program was killed off because many missions were done and there is only so much to do there
especially for the cost..
I seen one of the moon mission guys who walked on it first claim it had an unlimited budget and 400k employee's
he said we couldn't muster the resources to do that now if we wanted to.

people who spout off about science should learn science first.
it's highly unlikely the moon landings were faked.
although the claim they 'lost' telemetry data later when asked for it is fishy.
i would say even if for some reason the first one was faked i bet the later missions were not.

And no that guy said the shuttle is better for a mission to mars / moon.
uhh no LOL

our earth's internal dynamo creates a magnetic shield that spans out close to the moon.
that protects us from radiation.
in a space ship you need protection because your leaving the shield zone..
the new capsules that launch soon are going to be on the largest rockets man have ever made.
and they will have walls lined with liquid in various forms (the best radiation defense)
they need space too and a shuttle is not appropriate.. they have to bring food.
It costs 10k to put 1 pound of weight in orbit so if 4 guys going to Mars eat 1 pound of food a day each
and the trip takes anywhere from 6 months to a year to get there and then they can't leave for another year ?
then they have to haul a LOT of food !
not to mention they need a living capsule for the Mars surface / lander etc
the shuttle is NOT appropriate for all that.

fun fact: Russians have guns in space.
they admitted this when one of the landings back on the ground from the space station
had landed in a wooded area the astronauts were stuck over night fending off wolves / bears.
hence the gun policy.. as they admitted.
SO don't piss off a Russian on the space station..
they have confirmed drank Vodka and smoked cigars and have guns on the int. Space Station LOL

EDIT:
I found a face in the recently posted picture we all got from Nasa for Pluto.
Go get it and look at it and tell me if you spot the face like i did. (i seen 2 actually)
www.spaceweather.com is where i got it..
Also i want credit for it.. i found it !
I never seen anyone anywhere mention this before.. NEWS: Spoetnik Finds Proof of Alien Life !

[BADecker]

what the OP said based on spectrography we can deduce the likely hood of life and much more.

A spectrograph is an instrument used to separate and measure the wavelengths present in Electromagnetic radiation and to measure the relative amounts of radiation at each wavelength. In other words obtain and record the spectral content of light or its 'spectrum'.

if you see oxygen it was most likely from organic life.. yeah that -is- news.

i also think the Moon program was killed off because many missions were done and there is only so much to do there
especially for the cost..
I seen one of the moon mission guys who walked on it first claim it had an unlimited budget and 400k employee's
he said we couldn't muster the resources to do that now if we wanted to.

people who spout off about science should learn science first.
it's highly unlikely the moon landings were faked.
although the claim they 'lost' telemetry data later when asked for it is fishy.
i would say even if for some reason the first one was faked i bet the later missions were not.

And no that guy said the shuttle is better for a mission to mars / moon.
uhh no LOL

our earth's internal dynamo creates a magnetic shield that spans out close to the moon.
that protects us from radiation.
in a space ship you need protection because your leaving the shield zone..
the new capsules that launch soon are going to be on the largest rockets man have ever made.
and they will have walls lined with liquid in various forms (the best radiation defense)
they need space too and a shuttle is not appropriate.. they have to bring food.
It costs 10k to put 1 pound of weight in orbit so if 4 guys going to Mars eat 1 pound of food a day each
and the trip takes anywhere from 6 months to a year to get there and then they can't leave for another year ?
then they have to haul a LOT of food !
not to mention they need a living capsule for the Mars surface / lander etc
the shuttle is NOT appropriate for all that.

fun fact: Russians have guns in space.
they admitted this when one of the landings back on the ground from the space station
had landed in a wooded area the astronauts were stuck over night fending off wolves / bears.
hence the gun policy.. as they admitted.
SO don't piss off a Russian on the space station..
they have confirmed drank Vodka and smoked cigars and have guns on the int. Space Station LOL

EDIT:
I found a face in the recently posted picture we all got from Nasa for Pluto.
Go get it and look at it and tell me if you spot the face like i did. (i seen 2 actually)
www.spaceweather.com is where i got it..
Also i want credit for it.. i found it !
I never seen anyone anywhere mention this before.. NEWS: Spoetnik Finds Proof of Alien Life !

All that being said, now let's get down to reality.   

[galdur]

Well , this looks like very important information ....

Mars might get rings just like Saturn’s one day

Earlier this month, scientists announced that Phobos — one of Mars's two moons — is probably falling apart. The planet's gravitational pull is causing the moon to shrink and stretch, and one day (as soon as 20 million years from now) the tug-of-war might end in Phobos's total annihilation. ..........

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2015/11/23/mars-might-get-rings-just-like-saturns-one-day/