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December 26, 2015, 07:16:57 PM
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Most governments are, that's why they are imposing different laws in line with cryptocurrencies. As for the atm, 5% is indeed a big fee but business is business; the owner of this atm took the risk on spreading the word by installing a bitcoin atm in the country. That itself, I think is charity. Roll Eyes
3 percent VAT. 1 percent of the rental. 1 percent of profits. You're right, I do not expect to profit. But we need to talk about it, and we heard the regulators. In neighboring Kyrgyzstan, a terminal has been running for a year. I do not know if they have a profit machine Smiley But they are even more expensive of my terminal. (Lamassu)

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December 26, 2015, 07:32:25 PM
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These machines are expensive. To place them, owners are expecting a ROI more or less soon. I also don't know how's the Bitcoin scene there but if the machine exists there's probably a small community using Bitcoin around that place Smiley
The owner must not thinking about getting ROI, he/she must be think about spreading Bitcoin to his/her own country Smiley
If that was the case and this bitcoin machine was owned by rich millionaire who loves bitcoin then why set 5% fee?
Don't be deluded, bitcoin ATMs are way of earring money for the owner in the first place. Promotional motives come second.
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December 26, 2015, 08:32:50 PM
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Most governments are, that's why they are imposing different laws in line with cryptocurrencies. As for the atm, 5% is indeed a big fee but business is business; the owner of this atm took the risk on spreading the word by installing a bitcoin atm in the country. That itself, I think is charity. Roll Eyes
3 percent VAT. 1 percent of the rental. 1 percent of profits. You're right, I do not expect to profit. But we need to talk about it, and we heard the regulators. In neighboring Kyrgyzstan, a terminal has been running for a year. I do not know if they have a profit machine Smiley But they are even more expensive of my terminal. (Lamassu)

if you are looking for a way to try 'hiding' the fee so it doesnt appear as bad, play the spreads of the markets.

for instance in america
coinbase $426
bitfinex $421

when selling bitcoin to users, you first buy it (behind the scenes) from bitfinex and sell to others at the coinbase price (1% profit). customers dont see it as a 1% fee because you are offering it to them at the exact price coinbase does

when buying bitcoin you display to customers the bitfinex price, but then sell it (behind the scenes) on coinbase (1% profit). customers dont see it as a 1% fee because you are offering it to them at the exact price bitfinex does.

so by displaying it as a 'spread' it feels less like a fee, and many customers complain less because of it

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December 26, 2015, 08:50:54 PM
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I really doubt about it....definitely the owner looking for a business and not charity. But it's ok, bitcoin is all about earning money.
Oh my God its nice news that Bitcoins teller machine has set up in Kazakhstan really a mind blowing. It will sure help people to trust more on Bitcoins existence. That its a true money in this generation. A new digital money for business. Buy or sell goods too.
Thats true.It will encourage more and more people to use bitcoins not only in Kazakhstan but also in other countries as well as more nations and people join in,bitcoin will soon become global currency replacing dollar Cheesy
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December 26, 2015, 08:55:44 PM
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I saw the picture,and i think not just me who ask to you like this : its a bitcoin teller or bitcoin ATM?
Maybe you are have other view for thus machine?or teller and ATM are same?
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December 26, 2015, 09:01:28 PM
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I saw the picture,and i think not just me who ask to you like this : its a bitcoin teller or bitcoin ATM?
Maybe you are have other view for thus machine?or teller and ATM are same?
if you understand the T of ATM or BTM .. you will have your answer

spoiler: T=Teller


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December 27, 2015, 04:01:51 PM
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if you are looking for a way to try 'hiding' the fee so it doesnt appear as bad, play the spreads of the markets.

for instance in america
coinbase $426
bitfinex $421

when selling bitcoin to users, you first buy it (behind the scenes) from bitfinex and sell to others at the coinbase price (1% profit). customers dont see it as a 1% fee because you are offering it to them at the exact price coinbase does

when buying bitcoin you display to customers the bitfinex price, but then sell it (behind the scenes) on coinbase (1% profit). customers dont see it as a 1% fee because you are offering it to them at the exact price bitfinex does.

so by displaying it as a 'spread' it feels less like a fee, and many customers complain less because of it
I can not buy coins on coinbase because I am not a resident of the United States.

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December 27, 2015, 04:45:34 PM
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if you are looking for a way to try 'hiding' the fee so it doesnt appear as bad, play the spreads of the markets.

for instance in america
coinbase $426
bitfinex $421

when selling bitcoin to users, you first buy it (behind the scenes) from bitfinex and sell to others at the coinbase price (1% profit). customers dont see it as a 1% fee because you are offering it to them at the exact price coinbase does

when buying bitcoin you display to customers the bitfinex price, but then sell it (behind the scenes) on coinbase (1% profit). customers dont see it as a 1% fee because you are offering it to them at the exact price bitfinex does.

so by displaying it as a 'spread' it feels less like a fee, and many customers complain less because of it
I can not buy coins on coinbase because I am not a resident of the United States.
i didnt literally mean coinbase or bitfinex.. they were just examples.. but if you can get access to any 2 exchanges.. the quote the low price exchange when buying bitcoin from people (secretly selling the coin you received on the high price exchange for profit) and vice versa.

in short you are in control of the spread. so use it to buffer out the "fee" that way people dont notice it as much to complain about.
EG
book costs $10, dont say 'book for sale $10+$1 admin fee'.... just say $11

I DO NOT TRADE OR ACT AS ESCROW ON THIS FORUM EVER.
Please do your own research & respect what is written here as both opinion & information gleaned from experience. many people replying with insults but no on-topic content substance, automatically are 'facepalmed' and yawned at
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December 28, 2015, 04:09:56 AM
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i didnt literally mean coinbase or bitfinex.. they were just examples.. but if you can get access to any 2 exchanges.. the quote the low price exchange when buying bitcoin from people (secretly selling the coin you received on the high price exchange for profit) and vice versa.

in short you are in control of the spread. so use it to buffer out the "fee" that way people dont notice it as much to complain about.
EG
book costs $10, dont say 'book for sale $10+$1 admin fee'.... just say $11
I understand, thank's.

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