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Question: Should the guy be trusted if he is honest and you had an excellent trade with him
No, bought account's should never be given + feedback no matter how trustworthy the guy is. - 4 (33.3%)
Yes, The guy should be trusted if he is honest and you had a smooth trade with him. - 8 (66.7%)
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December 15, 2015, 06:54:29 PM
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A bought account should be treated like a newbie account, with the same rules you would apply to a newbie account. If someone gave a neutral rating saying that the account was bought then all ratings after that rating might be taken into consideration to find out the character of that person.

It's not that a bought account is generally untrustworthy.

I believe we trust in a person, not the account they post from.

Thanks for the feedbacks , after spending years on forum i have faith/trust in handful of people and they have shown their integrity once again.

If an untrustworthy person creates a new account, their negative trust should follow them to that account.

correct, like we neg-rep the alt accounts of scammers/extortionists. :p

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December 15, 2015, 08:24:04 PM
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I believe we trust in a person, not the account they post from.

If an untrustworthy person creates a new account, their negative trust should follow them to that account.

Cannot agree more, and why are you so offended if someone doesnt give you +ve trust for the loan dude ?

Moreover we all know your aqccount is a bought account, and someone earlier claimed and proved it, so can you prove that it was not a bought account, yes or no ?

If its a bought account, I myself will too add a -ve trust to you.

By giving trust we trust the body we are dealing with not the IP or the account, we trust the person not the materials.
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December 15, 2015, 08:39:06 PM
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I believe we trust in a person, not the account they post from.

If an untrustworthy person creates a new account, their negative trust should follow them to that account.

Cannot agree more, and why are you so offended if someone doesnt give you +ve trust for the loan dude ?

Moreover we all know your aqccount is a bought account, and someone earlier claimed and proved it, so can you prove that it was not a bought account, yes or no ?

If its a bought account, I myself will too add a -ve trust to you.

By giving trust we trust the body we are dealing with not the IP or the account, we trust the person not the materials.
can you please make it more clear mate ? if its possible then I would be glad to clear your doubts.

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December 16, 2015, 04:42:18 AM
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I can't pick yes or no for this, as in your scenario there's basically only one data point.  This forum if rife with riffraff who make deals only to pull off a long-term scam.  Trust farming is very real.  Yes, the transactions in the beginning will be carried out with no problem...but that doesn't necessarily mean the person is to be trusted.

I'd say leaving a positive trust after a good transaction is appropriate.  It can be always be changed as in OP's example of an account being bought.

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December 16, 2015, 07:04:34 AM
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Bought account giving a negative advice about another bought account. If Hedgy hadn't changed his rules after(I asked him to) he dealt with you, the only trust rating that you had would've been gone.
At least write, what you are saying, understandable
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December 16, 2015, 07:55:54 AM
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I'd say leaving a positive trust after a good transaction is appropriate.  It can be always be changed as in OP's example of an account being bought.
whom are you trusting the account or the guy ? with whom are you trading the person or the account ?

If you got to know that badbear is the escrow from a newbie account and quickseller is an escrow from badbear's account whom would you choose to stay safe and not to get scammed ?

stay logical ,you will be respected always.

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December 16, 2015, 01:54:25 PM
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I believe we trust in a person, not the account they post from.

If an untrustworthy person creates a new account, their negative trust should follow them to that account.

Cannot agree more, and why are you so offended if someone doesnt give you +ve trust for the loan dude ?

Moreover we all know your aqccount is a bought account, and someone earlier claimed and proved it, so can you prove that it was not a bought account, yes or no ?

If its a bought account, I myself will too add a -ve trust to you.

By giving trust we trust the body we are dealing with not the IP or the account, we trust the person not the materials.
can you please make it more clear mate ? if its possible then I would be glad to clear your doubts.

I thought I have spoken English but let me ask you in simple English.

1) Is your account a bought account ( I am sure of this, so think before saying lie )
2) Do you encourage that accounts should be sold with trust ( so the person can scam later ) ? If not then whats your problem
3) Do you think everyone who takes loan should be given a trust ? If so newbies will be bold green too soon
4) Do you thinking when you deal with someone, do you deal with the person or a physical item ?
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December 16, 2015, 03:14:58 PM
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I thought I have spoken English but let me ask you in simple English.

1) Is your account a bought account ( I am sure of this, so think before saying lie )
2) Do you encourage that accounts should be sold with trust ( so the person can scam later ) ? If not then whats your problem
3) Do you think everyone who takes loan should be given a trust ? If so newbies will be bold green too soon
4) Do you thinking when you deal with someone, do you deal with the person or a physical item ?
He already answered them AFAIK.
1) Yes
2) No, the trust was acquired after change in ownership
3) It was a significant amount of BTC as a loan
4) What? You mean person or account right?
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December 16, 2015, 04:14:23 PM
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I thought I have spoken English but let me ask you in simple English.
You are very kind, thank you for doing this.

1) Is your account a bought account ( I am sure of this, so think before saying lie )
Are you sure that you are sure of this question cause if you are sure then why are you asking it ? First you have to promise me that you won't punish me if i say the truth Tongue Tongue
2) Do you encourage that accounts should be sold with trust ( so the person can scam later ) ? If not then whats your problem
Read The thread.
3) Do you think everyone who takes loan should be given a trust ? If so newbies will be bold green too soon
Read The thread.
4) Do you thinking when you deal with someone, do you deal with the person or a physical item ?
Read The thread.

He already answered them AFAIK.
1) Yes
When Roll EyesRoll Eyes

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December 16, 2015, 04:50:58 PM
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He already answered them AFAIK.
1) Yes
When Roll EyesRoll Eyes
The ref link from KWH's feedback, duh? And don't forget the PMs you sent me as well. And hey, I thought I was helping you here.


Edit: Error, Error!! Humor sensor down, bitcointalk incomprehensible
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December 16, 2015, 04:54:35 PM
Last edit: December 16, 2015, 07:02:46 PM by Heutenamos
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He already answered them AFAIK.
1) Yes
When Roll EyesRoll Eyes
And hey, I thought I was helping you here.
I don't think i was serious Roll Eyes Duh Tongue

Edit: Error, Error!! Humor sensor down, bitcointalk incomprehensible
completely incomprehensible. Undecided

Edit: thanks for the voting a comment would be appreciated .

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December 17, 2015, 07:10:32 AM
Last edit: December 21, 2015, 06:33:42 PM by Heutenamos
 #32

This poll/thread has answered the feedback question very openly and could also be reliable as majority of the voters are highly trusted and are members of the Default Trust since years.

Letting this thing go on for months will not beneficial and might also give people the chance to abuse it ,so i won't be promoting the thread anymore and will probably keep it open for a couple of days,if anyone is interested to share their opinions.

Thanks to the people who voted.


Edit: Locked.

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