日本

[buybitcoinbycreditcard]

こんにちはー。

クレジットカードでビットコインを購入出来るサイトを作ってみました。
急に必要になったとき等にご利用ください。

https://buybitcoinbycreditcard.com/

Hello.

We have been released our website.

You can buy bitcoins with your credit card.
No need bank wire. we will send bitcoins in instantly.

Please visit us.
https://buybitcoinbycreditcard.com/

[drakahn]

What is your plan to deal with chargeback fraud? 

[buybitcoinbycreditcard]

We need our customer's ID( a passport or driver's license etc ) and we send a validation code to our customer's cell phone.

[buybitcoinbycreditcard]

en.bitcoin.itを徘徊してたらビットコインの日本語bettingサイトを見つけました。

https://betbybitcoin.com/

[okahira]

他の先進国と比べて日本のビットコインのユーザがまだ少ないですね

[jyaken]

珍しい日本語のスレ

[keatonatron]

珍しい日本語のスレ

そうねー
気になりました

[brishtiteveja]

Hi All,
   I think there should be a lot of Japanese bitcoin users as Mtgox.com itself is in Japan. But still the concern for bitcoin in Japan is very little. But I think Japan should be a huge market for bitcoin. Because Japanese people love online shopping and online gambling and what not? I think there is not enough Japanese website to educate Japanese people about bitcoin.
   I am actually working as a translator and a coordinator on the Japanese translation of http://bitcoin.org in http://www.transifex.com.
   I will appreciate if other Japanese forum users gather here and raise their voice. We can also think and discuss about other opportunities in Japan.

Brishtiteveja.

[brishtiteveja]

大阪からです。マウントゴックスは日本であるなのに何で日本人はまだ遅いなんでしょうか？やっぱり日本人はリスクアバースだね。。。でもビットコインはこれほど値上げ続けたら日本は全然ビットコインワールドには入れなくて困るには間違いない。多分知っている奴らはビットコインは全然成功出来ないと思って間違っている。そのリスクはあるんだけど．．多分ビットコインはあるでしょう。。その上ビットコインの発明家は京大の数学者シニチモチズキだと噂がでてますね。。

一番びっくりしているのは、日本は半導体とか電気製品トップメーカーなのに、何でだれもマイナー開発とそれの利益に気づいてないの？俺は億円もっとったら今すぐアシックマイナー開発を始めたかも知れない。もしね。。日本でビットコインを基にしてスタートアップも立ち上がらないとビットコインは日本で成功出来ないと思う。また楽天とかアマゾンとかなどでビットコインで販売が始まってほしい。他の人はなに思っているんですか？このフォーラムを通して日本人ビットコインユザーを繋いだ方が価値があると思う。

みんなコメントください。

[keatonatron]

Mt Gox being in Japan doesn't have anything to do with Japanese people using Bitcoin.

Sure it makes it easier for Japanese people to put money in and take it out, but Japanese culture in regards to money is a much bigger factor.

Japan is still a cash-based economy. People don't use credits cards. Opposite that, however, they already have a extensive network of digital money NFC systems (suica, pasmo, etc) that is extremely easy to use and secure (in fact, much easier than bitcoin for POS transactions!)

The main reasons Bitcoin is not big in Japan is the lack of need: there is no fear of government taking people's monies, no fear of loss due to physical theft, no need to send money globally, and no lack of an easy digital payment system.

[brishtiteveja]

@keatonatron,
       You are right the main reason is the current lack of need because Japanese people put trust on their systems. And Japanese people also don't bother to give a huge percentage to anybody who give them good service. But this culture can be and should be changed for many reasons.
       A very big reason can be make transactions with very less fee.
       Another reason is to stay in the global race. The way Bitcoin is rising, I think Japan will lag behind in the long run and I think that's not good for Japan.
       But still won't it be a great thing if people in Japan start using bitcoin? Some one need to educate them.

[kodo]

DO NOT USE PAYPAL. You can be ripped off through chargeback fraud.

[Eva Braun]

Agreed never use paypal

[keatonatron]

@keatonatron,
       You are right the main reason is the current lack of need because Japanese people put trust on their systems. And Japanese people also don't bother to give a huge percentage to anybody who give them good service. But this culture can be and should be changed for many reasons.
       A very big reason can be make transactions with very less fee.
       Another reason is to stay in the global race. The way Bitcoin is rising, I think Japan will lag behind in the long run and I think that's not good for Japan.
       But still won't it be a great thing if people in Japan start using bitcoin? Some one need to educate them.

Of course! Japan definitely needs to change, and I want to help change things! I was just explaining the current situation. First we must understand why it is not very popular, then we can try to change it!

About buybitcoinbycreditcard.  I've noticed the fee is 1,500 yen per bitcoin. That's over 10%! I can't agree with such a ripoff. We can't tell people bitcoin is great because there are no fees when it costs them 10% in fees just to buy in!

[brishtiteveja]

@keatonatron,
       That's why I think they need "EDUCATION" about bitcoin. Countries where people adopted it early, they know where to trust, where not to,how to deal with and how to debunk. So,bitcoin can be used knowing nothing about it. But I think in Japan, we can not encourage Japanese people by only saying that bitcoin is a new techy currency that offers low fees. Rather we will have to make them understand about how the whole currency based crazy,greedy, central monetary system emerged not even before 100 years, how bitcoin and gold virtually are the same and how beautiful it would be to have a decentralized, global currency and how great it is to depend on mathematical logic and algorithms, not on biased human decisions.
        And I think, Japanese population are risk averse, but on the other hand they take things seriously if something has value, they love to trust and when they do so, they don't abandon. So the question why they did not adopt bitcoin is just not only that they did not need it, but also they haven't been properly informed or educated about the philosophy of bitcoin.

[brishtiteveja]

Wait. There won't be any f**n paypal. They will change their name "bitpaypal"...

[keatonatron]

@keatonatron,
       That's why I think they need "EDUCATION" about bitcoin.

I agree. The whole world needs more education about bitcoin 
But Japan is often uneducated about things that come from overseas, so they need it the most!