BARR dev does not appreciate humour. brief analysis of BARR process.

[BARR_Official]

ACP was trading at 60 sats,
you swapped at 600 sats,

ACP was trading at 600 sats.
We swapped at 600 sats.


http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/anarchistsprime/

(the only trust issues anyone has accused me of has been those you created with no basis )

When you show up to someone's ANN and say they shouldn't be doing certain things,
be ready for them to point out that you're doing the exact same things.

You're the one who accused yourself.

why are you burning coins with active devs ?

Why did you burn CLOT when it had an active dev?

lol please burn BUMBA. 20 million coins is obviously far too many in this day of shitcoin bloat

Why are you asking us to burn a coin with an active dev?

and if anyone wants to swap Barr for Bumba, send me a pm and we'll work something out

Why are you burning a coin with active devs?

There is nothing uniquely special about BARR

Your coin is an X11 clone.

i would like to point out that creating manipulated economic models does not make Barr an automatic success.

Nothing you have done has made your coin a success either.

you're working with an artificially inflated system by arbitrarily injecting funds into the process. this is no different to selling things in a market place for bumba.

But you are selling things in a marketplace for Bumba, so why did you bring it up since you say it's no different from what you're doing yourself?

https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/MarketPlace?categoryId=0&currencyId=211&locationId=0&sortBy=Title&searchTerm=&type=All%20Items

you havent even bothered working with a truly trustable system. you could dump any amount of Barr you wanted at any time.

We're using a better system than you're using:

for whatever reasons, we gave away a couple of million bumba, and have a couple of million left.

You could dump any amount of Bumba you wanted at any time, while our decentralized trustlessly transparent accountability deters us from doing that.

neither this thread is being kept current, nor the website

Your website has a link to your thread, and you haven't posted anything to it in over 2 months:

https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Forum/Thread/338?page=2

lol
such time spent on trolling a shit coin.

That was your criticism when I asked for transparency from Digital Credits.
You say I'm trolling a shitcoin.

Barr is a Next Asset style of shitcoin. no more no less.

So you're trolling a shitcoin?  Except you're following me around to several different threads.

Have you said anything about me that doesn't apply better to yourself?

barr_official is obsessed with his enemy DGCS, and is not afraid of making shit up and attacking the honesty of others.

...so that's a "no"?

i also suggested he disclose all his private dealings with Barr as he is using undisclosed personal funds which results in an opaque distribution of Barr to himself. it seems possible he owns the vast majority of distributed Barr but that is an unknown reality.

And yet all of our undistributed funds are always available for anyone to see on the blockchain, in our easily-found address, while you're holding millions of premined Bumbacoins and you don't even mention the addresses in your ANN.

maybe you can comment on how it seems you quite obviously own at least ~61% of distributed BARR through three different accounts

Kind of like how the top addresses hold 63% of Bumbacoins and you haven't said which addresses you control?

http://blockchain.bumbacoin.com/richlist

runpaint has very obvious connections with most burncoins  that predate their selection as burn coins.

But I didn't launch those coins myself, and I wasn't their dev.

You burned a coin that you launched and were in full control of, and you selected everything about the burn process yourself.

Barr seems openly an opportunity for those involved to divest their shitcoins while attempting to pump a new shitcoin.

That's a great description of your swap of CLOT for BUMBA.

how much of total distribution of Barr does runpaint or Barr team own

Let's see how a pro answers:

i own personal bumba, so does everyone else who owns bumba.

Very informative!

the swap ratio's are set by Barr

And you set the swap ratio when you burned CLOT for BUMBA.

There has never been any Bumbacoin Premine dumped.

And there has never been any BARR dumped.  But what did you have to say about that?

i'm not trying to be rude. but this seems to be a big flag as to your naivety.

noob1: hi, i'm going to invest in a coin where the coin devs hold the vast majority of that coin
cynicaltrader1: you should be concerned that the devs will dump their vast holdings without warning
noob1: oh, but i read the ANN and the devs say they're honest, it looks like a good coin
troll1: fancy that, a self-proclaimed honest dev. i'd go all in if i were you
cynicaltrader1: i wouldn't go near that coin. but i might keep an eye on their pre-pump plans

And what else?

1. the burn process is not trustless.

you could dump any amount of Barr you wanted at any time.

No, that's you and your hidden premine.  Again, we're not like Bumbacoin.

Our transparent accountability is trustless, because anyone can see exactly where every single BARR goes on the NXT blockchain in real-time.  

obviously mistaking his honesty for a trustless situation.

But now the only excuse for your burn process and leftover coins is "I'm honest!  I've never dumped the Bumbacoin premine! (yet)"

Unlike the Bumbacoin premine, the BARR Burn Fund has never moved a single coin from its single address without an attached message showing txids for burned altcoins.

Why do you have multiple premine addresses and multiple "dev fund" addresses for Bumbacoin?  Why can't you have trustless transparent accountability like BARR does?

well i am a trustworthy dev.

Obviously mistaking being trustworthy for a trustless situation.



Just take this as the answer for your next hundred stupid questions:

i own personal bumba, so does everyone else who owns bumba.

[bumbacoin]

edit.
these answers are mirrored here, as the same questions appeared in two seperate threads

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(the only trust issues anyone has accused me of has been those you created with no basis )

When you show up to someone's ANN and say they shouldn't be doing certain things,
be ready for them to point out that you're doing the exact same things.

You're the one who accused yourself.

lol. great defense.
he made me do it!! he was on MY thread!!
i'm innocent!!

Did I show up in your ANN to do that, or was it only in direct response to your posts in which you showed that you're either a troll or you can't read?

and there you go again impugning again my good person. shame on you.
my posts were neither troll nor showed evidence that i could not read. such a false dichotomy.

ACP was trading at 60 sats,
you swapped at 600 sats,

ACP was trading at 600 sats.
We swapped at 600 sats.

there's a great quote somewhere saying how ACP was trading at 60 sats.
until you pumped it.
then swapped it.

runpaint thought he could easily clear up the matter, defend BARR and shut up the fudder, by asking you to confirm that BARR was the reason for ACP going from 60 sats to 600.

you're working with an artificially inflated system by arbitrarily injecting funds into the process. this is no different to selling things in a market place for bumba.

But you are selling things in a marketplace for Bumba, so why did you bring it up since you say it's no different from what you're doing yourself?

yes, i told you earlier that we were creating artificial demand by doing that.
that is not the problem with what you are doing.

you havent even bothered working with a truly trustable system. you could dump any amount of Barr you wanted at any time.

We're using the exact same system you're using:

we never claimed to have a trustless system, as you have.

Our transparent accountability is trustless, because anyone can see exactly where every single BARR goes on the NXT blockchain in real-time.  

yes, if you dump, people can see where the coins come from.
you do not have a trustless system

maybe you can comment on how it seems you quite obviously own at least ~61% of distributed BARR through three different accounts

Kind of like how the top addresses hold 63% of Bumbacoins and you haven't said which addresses you control?

top 25 addresses, vs your 3 addresses ??
i have no idea what the rest of your richlists looks like


looks like i own #6 and #8 , about 13% lol bodgey maths/  6.5%
plus i have maybe 5% on exchange <--not sure about that figure.

1. which NXT accounts holding Barr/Offs do you or other team members own?

Let's see how a pro answers:

Most of them.  What is the point of that question?  

Why do you have multiple premine addresses and multiple "dev fund" addresses for Bumbacoin?  Why can't you have trustless transparent accountability like BARR does?

you don't have trustless accountability.

you have an open ledger, so does bumbacoin, we just don't have arbitrary data.
we never bothered cos we lack any delusions of grandeur,
although it would be nice, but can't honestly see the need.

at the moment we have multiple addresses because thats' how it's happened,
change addresses have been a big reason for it,
the swap happened over a year ago, would be surprising if we'd never moved any coins.

lets put all the coins in address A.
let's send some coins for purpose X.
now the remaining funds, ie the change from this transaction, has gone to address B. etc,

so, let's put all the funds in addresses A B C, then we can leave most of the coins in their declared addresses when we move coins.
yes we could use coin control, but i  use daemons by preference which lack coin control features.
yes, i could craft transactions incoroporating specified change address as origin address, but, i havent. much easier just sending them...

and as you love to point out. all the tx are there on the blockchain for anyone to look at
so, in conclusion, we do have the same level of trustless accountability if anyone wants to dig through the chain. lol

[bumbacoin]

here's a simple question

if you hold 1million ACP,

is it better for the swap ratio between BARR:ACP to be set at 60 or 600 sats?
which answer will return you a higher amount of BARR?

600 sats is better as it will return you a higher amount of BARR.

ACP was trading at 60 sats,
you swapped at 600 sats,

ACP was trading at 600 sats.
We swapped at 600 sats.

runpaint thought he could easily clear up the matter, defend BARR and shut up the fudder, by asking you to confirm that BARR was the reason for ACP going from 60 sats to 600.

[bumbacoin]

You could dump any amount of Bumba you wanted at any time, while our decentralized trustlessly transparent accountability deters us from doing that.

lol. i just noticed this.
yep, i can dump all the bumba i have control over anytime i want, which goes nowhere the > 95% of the entire coin supply taht you control and can dump whenever you want

a trustless system, that deters you ?
trustless and deter shouldnt be together in that sentence. you know that?

a trustless system would mean it was impossible for you to dump, there would be no deterrence, there would be impossibility.

it's not impossible for me to dump bumba, therefore it relies on trust that i don't dump teh bumba
it's not impossible for you to dump barr, therefore it relies on trust that you don't dump the barr

you don't have trustless accountability.

[bumbacoin]

because everyone needs a felt patch,
just started an auction for the necessary 10K BSC to get your own favourite coin icon made up.

we will give you the voucher, then you can give it to Bowscoin dev with your specific request

...

NOTE.
the 10K BSC will come as a yobit code.
currently their wallet is offline and taking advantage of the BARR swap may not be possible.

Remember not to buy or accept any so-called BSC BowsCoins at YoBit unless they get their wallet online.
If you can't withdraw it, you don't actually have any real BSC. 
And their wallet has been offline since last year.

C-Cex is currently the only market where you can deposit and withdraw BSC, so that's where the trading is.
The market at YoBit says someone just bought exactly 10,000 BSC today, between 65 and 84 satoshis,
while BSC has been 400 satoshis at C-Cex for the past 7 days in a row.

So if someone offers you BSC at YoBit, remember that they probably just bought it for 80% less than the current market rate because it can't be withdrawn.

what a pissy attack. lol
such snide insinuations.

it's all in my quote,
buy a 10k bsc voucher for auction .. give that voucher to bsc dev. exchange wallet is offline so no burn for BARR.

haha but runpaint is all pissy and whiney that you can buy 10k bsc for far less than his pump price. and still use it to buy stuff.

no mention of how much of his 2,000,000 BSC was bought below the pump price but still exchanged at his inflated pump price.
hypocrisy much??

So if someone tries to convince you they just burned $3200 worth of BSC, remember they probably bought if for far less than the current market rate.

[BARR_Official]

if you buy at 20, pump, then swap at 50, your pump gives you an advantage swap value than if you swapped at 20.

what a pissy attack. lol
such snide insinuations.

because everyone needs a felt patch,
just started an auction for the necessary 10K BSC to get your own favourite coin icon made up.

we will give you the voucher, then you can give it to Bowscoin dev with your specific request

honesty in this situation should also entail complete open ness about your own purchases...

you are the central overseer,
you are injecting personal funds into your own public project,
you are openly manipulating the market (through injecting funds - again, nothing wrong with that at all as long as you are open),
you should be completely transparent about your actions.

lets pretend i want to increase bumba's value...

i pick the arbitrary value, then i put the appropriate amount of resources into Bumba to reach that arbitrary value
...

i was interested in getting some "gifts" for bowscoin and ended up catching a few dumps before the price pumped.
i'll watch with interest how the pump goes and where your buy walls end up
perhaps it would be in my best interest to invest further funds into pumping bowscoin further

hypocrisy much??

[bumbacoin]

not sure what you're trying to say.
it's very easy to take language out of context and make it seem like someone contradicts themselves.

bumbacoin : do you like cookies ?

why yes i do.

bumbacoin : do you like waterfalls ?

no, not particularly.

quick copy/paste edit later..

bumbacoin : do you like cookies?

no, not particularly.

oh, look at that ,
haha i made runpaint say something silly and i can pretend it means something . lol now i get all the cookies !!

[bumbacoin]

locking this to prevent more lolz

i haven't come to a full conclusion on the BARR teams motivation vs seeming economic naivety.
but have put a series of observations into the OP.