Scammed by Kareem001

I went first, he didn't go at all
well a couple days ago we agreed to a trade of 230BTC for 143 PM
I went looking for an escrow partner to send my BTC to but no one ever seems to be online when I am
after 2 days I gave up and decided to just go first starting with $20 worth of BTC
then he said I had set the BTC fee's to low and no one would mine the trade and in time it would get sent back to me
first iv heard of this but sounded logical so I increased the fee and sent another 20
he was pleased said I had done it correctly (im new to BTC) and it would be confirmed soon
said he would send the PM soon as it had one confirmation
then I heard a car outside and thought my ride was ready so I said I had to go and would be back in 6-8 hours
he said he would be in for 12 hours and would keep watching them and pay soon as they confirm
the car was not for me and in fact I spent the next 2 hours contently being told NEARLY ready to go
finally I checked and the 2 BTC payments I sent him had been confirmed
I sent him a message telling him that and then finally went out
got back about an hour ago (8 hours after leaving) and he had not responded or sent me the PM

I was trying to think he just got pulled a way and not come back yet but another trader checked his Txid
https://blockchain.info/tx/e70b000829eed4a39756a852b1016ab366dea81fda8026c8620d7fc6e0fa4af5
and tells me he has already cashed in the BTC so he knows it has been confirmed and just hasn't bothered to send me the PM
iv never heard of Txid before hehehe but this sure feels like a scam to me
I hate to file a complaint so soon but im being told I should so here I am

Scammers Profile Link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=232903

Reference Link:
we chatted in PMs and later skype
I can copy that if needed

Amount Scammed:
0.09423218 BTC ($40)

Proof of Payment:
http://prntscr.com/a8dw6s
48e6b92970e7797ed89750ab161041df8935208a34760fcd94541138e3875963-000
e70b000829eed4a39756a852b1016ab366dea81fda8026c8620d7fc6e0fa4af5-000

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Re: selling BTC
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Quote from: amartin99 on February 25, 2016, 08:24:31 AM
!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!
I like free how about monbux

also Id be willing to go first and save the time of going threw a middle man
we just need to start small is all

I see your feedback is all positive
sept for what you have given (man you seem to get ripped off a lot)

anyway give me your BTC and ill send you $20
then you send me 20

Hey my BTC is 149YVBK79m5iCpt4mvfzJ69Z71J2zbYQYA

I didn't get scammed that much but i'm looking out and when users TRY to scam me i give neg rep, taking care of other users so they don't get scammed ;-)

If you want you can also send 50/50, as you said, my rep is good and never cheated anybody here and never will.... opposite, i'm looking out for people on this forum.

Sending 50/50 takes less time as i WILL wait for 1 confirmation before i send back, got a few times i had to wait days because senders did not include enough fee... so it's up to you if you want to speed it up or not.

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Re: selling BTC
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!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!
the last scammer I met had massive trust level
it don't mean as much as it should

I was planning to go 20
then 30
then 40
then 50
and so on till we finished
but I offered to go first with 20 and you responded asking me to send 1/2
maybe you are just trying to save time but I now worry that your trying to get as much as possible in the first go
cause you wont be sending anything back

please forgive me if I am wrong
got to be a bit paranoid around here
but now I feel we must go threw an Escrow

how about Monbux ?

lol ok mate.... any good escrow will do (monbux, OgNasty, Shorena)
but is it ok that we do this in a few hours? gotto get my wife from work and escrow take s a little time to setup...
was not trying to scam mate, just speed things up because, like i said, i always wait for one confirmation
i even have a thread against scammers lol
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Re: selling BTC
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!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!
im not judging you as I realize I likely got it wrong
just every time I give someone the benefit of the doubt I get ripped off
so when I have any doubt now I look to cover my ass

ill contact monbux
but I should be gone to work in a couple hours
we can always finish the trade when I get back

However you want it mate, i don't want to push you into any direction
we have two choises:
1 - we do it now 50/50 or ANY way you want but please within the next 10 mins as i have to go get my wife from work
2 - we wait (probably tomorrow then?) for escrow
You are in control so you feel good about the trade, doesn't matter to me.
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he is not responding
let me know when you come online and we can find another escrow

I'm here mate
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!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!
it's 1AM here
I was in bed and herd my computer beeping so came to see what was up

just checked and NONE of the escrow people are currently online
I need to get back to bed
should be back in 7-8 hours
maybe you can catch an escrow person online by then

lol ok mate ;-) go have some sleep ;-)
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!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!
im back and again no one seems to be online
im gona PM Tomatocage, OgNasty
see if one of them responds

Mate it's taking to long....
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!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!
im back and again no one seems to be online
im gona PM Tomatocage, OgNasty
see if one of them responds

Just do it as you told... start with $20 or something....

149YVBK79m5iCpt4mvfzJ69Z71J2zbYQYA

Again, i will wait for 1 confirmation and send you the funds.. also PM me your account again pls
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!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!
im back and again no one seems to be online
im gona PM Tomatocage, OgNasty
see if one of them responds

i don't know what more to do mate... i have waited for you to reply to me with any escrow you need, i let you take full control but somehow nothing is happening so we either do it now or we forget about it ;-)

up to you... you have my btc, i'll stay online a bit now

again... it's all up to you but if you want to speed it up send a little higher to avaoid waiting for confirmation 10 times... or send however you want it lol
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yea im also getting sic of waiting

lets move ahead without escrow in small steps
unless you want to go first hehehe

my skyp ID is giga-owner
these PM's are just way to slow

mate let's just do small step... just start the send and PM me your account again....
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!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!
yea im also getting sic of waiting

lets move ahead without escrow in small steps
unless you want to go first hehehe

my skyp ID is giga-owner
these PM's are just way to slow

now your also not responding to me on Skype... mate, just for get about the deal lol
too much hassle for sucha small amount
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[8:55:11 AM] *** live:falitgroup would like to add you on Skype

Hi, Martin Nesbitt, I'd like to add you as a contact. ***
[8:55:14 AM] *** Martin Nesbitt has shared contact details with live:falitgroup. ***
[8:55:23 AM] Martin Nesbitt: hello
[8:55:36 AM] Martin Nesbitt: sorry didn't realize it wasn't turned on
[8:55:51 AM] Martin Nesbitt: was dealing with a server payment
[8:56:00 AM] Martin Nesbitt: mornings can be pretty busy for me
[9:15:58 AM] live:falitgroup: Here?
[9:16:06 AM] Martin Nesbitt: yep
[9:16:21 AM] live:falitgroup: ok mate, let me know how you want to do this
[9:16:42 AM] Martin Nesbitt: well lets go 20$ a t atime first
[9:16:53 AM] Martin Nesbitt: just start small and increace as we go
[9:17:02 AM] live:falitgroup: sure... please also give me your account again
[9:17:09 AM] Martin Nesbitt: yea same here
[9:17:16 AM] live:falitgroup: lol
[9:17:22 AM] live:falitgroup: 149YVBK79m5iCpt4mvfzJ69Z71J2zbYQYA
[9:17:48 AM] Martin Nesbitt: Perfectmoney EUR – E5858475
Perfectmoney USD – U5104335
[9:18:00 AM] Martin Nesbitt: which do you have anyway EUR or USD ?
[9:18:04 AM] live:falitgroup: ok i need the usd one
[9:18:09 AM] Martin Nesbitt: ok
[9:18:53 AM] Martin Nesbitt: http://bitcoinexchangerate.org/c/BTC-USD/20
[9:19:47 AM] live:falitgroup: at bitstamp 0.04704 is 19.93
[9:20:10 AM] live:falitgroup: wtf bro
[9:20:11 AM] live:falitgroup: Fees $ 0.01
[9:20:19 AM] live:falitgroup: Estimated Confirmation Time Within 6 Blocks (Medium Priority)
[9:20:23 AM] live:falitgroup: https://blockchain.info/tx/48e6b92970e7797ed89750ab161041df8935208a34760fcd94541138e3875963
[9:20:35 AM] Martin Nesbitt: sent 0.04704 http://prntscr.com/a86umv
[9:20:46 AM] live:falitgroup: there we go... THATS why i say i ALWAYS wait for 1 confirmation
[9:21:05 AM] live:falitgroup: yeah you send but did not include enough fee
[9:21:11 AM] live:falitgroup: https://blockchain.info/tx/48e6b92970e7797ed89750ab161041df8935208a34760fcd94541138e3875963
[9:21:32 AM] live:falitgroup: Fees $ 0.01
Estimated Confirmation Time Within 6 Blocks (Medium Priority)
[9:21:38 AM] Martin Nesbitt: didn't even know BTC charged a fee
[9:22:05 AM] live:falitgroup: within 65 blocks......... that's gonna be 2 hours goddamnit
[9:22:11 AM] live:falitgroup: *6 blocks
[9:22:33 AM] live:falitgroup: fees should be $0.02 minimum
[9:23:20 AM] Martin Nesbitt: better to compensate for that later then to try and sort it as we go
[9:23:24 AM] Martin Nesbitt: 19.93
[9:23:53 AM] live:falitgroup: what is "[9:19:47 AM] live:falitgroup: 19.93" ?
[9:24:10 AM] Martin Nesbitt: was what you said you got
[9:24:18 AM] Martin Nesbitt: better to just mark them down
[9:24:32 AM] live:falitgroup: uh mark what down? lol you lost me mate
[9:25:14 AM] Martin Nesbitt: I don't want to try sending a wee bit extra to cover the fee's better to add it up and send another payment at the end to cover them
[9:25:34 AM] live:falitgroup: you don't understand fees
[9:25:58 AM] Martin Nesbitt: no as a mater afact I don't
[9:26:04 AM] live:falitgroup: you did not put enough fees so the transaction is not mined.... and will not get mined within 6 blocks so the money is not usable... the bitcoins can NOT be used be me
[9:26:08 AM] Martin Nesbitt: never heard of BTC fee's before
[9:26:22 AM] live:falitgroup: miners ONLY mine transactions when it has enough fees for them
[9:26:34 AM] live:falitgroup: they don't do it for free lol
[9:26:51 AM] Martin Nesbitt: hmmm that's a new one never heard of that
[9:26:58 AM] live:falitgroup: the fees are not for me... the fees are for the btc miners that will actually mine your transaction
[9:27:01 AM] Martin Nesbitt: wondered where these blocks they mine come from
[9:27:31 AM] live:falitgroup: so the $20 you send is absolutelly of nu use to me as i can not spend that amount
[9:27:59 AM] live:falitgroup: and THATS exactly why i say to you i always wait for 1 confirmation
[9:28:12 AM] Martin Nesbitt: I sent a guy $3 yesterday and it has 76 confermations now
[9:28:15 AM] live:falitgroup: 1 confirmation means its mined and included in a block and the bitcoins are free to use
[9:28:40 AM] live:falitgroup: mate look at the link of the transaction on blockchain: https://blockchain.info/tx/48e6b92970e7797ed89750ab161041df8935208a34760fcd94541138e3875963
[9:29:24 AM] Martin Nesbitt: I have no idea what to do about this
[9:29:44 AM] live:falitgroup: https://i.imgur.com/ITz8qYj.jpg
[9:29:49 AM] live:falitgroup: nothing you can do about it
[9:30:02 AM] live:falitgroup: now we have to wait for hours...
[9:30:20 AM] live:falitgroup: do you understand NOW why i urged you to do it in one transaction or 2 at most?
[9:30:36 AM] Martin Nesbitt: sorta but sending that much in one go is risky
[9:30:47 AM] Martin Nesbitt: talking 120$
[9:31:07 AM] live:falitgroup: and sending without me able to use it and now $20 somewhere in bitland and no good to any of us isn't risky?
[9:31:40 AM] Martin Nesbitt: I have heard warnings about people sending fake BTC payments but have no idea how that is posible
[9:32:01 AM] Martin Nesbitt: to me it looks like the $ is secured to you just gona take some time to be usable
[9:32:24 AM] live:falitgroup: yeah well they send like this and eventually the blockchain drops the transaction and they money is gone and goes back to the sender
[9:32:30 AM] live:falitgroup: nope it isnt
[9:32:49 AM] live:falitgroup: you obviously don't understand about blockchain and double spends and all that
[9:32:59 AM] Martin Nesbitt: ive hardly used it
[9:33:09 AM] Martin Nesbitt: but I do get a lot of small payments to by busienss
[9:33:16 AM] Martin Nesbitt: and the funds do add up
[9:33:23 AM] live:falitgroup: what wallet do you use to send?
[9:33:32 AM] Martin Nesbitt: 95% of the payments I get are less thewn $20
[9:33:37 AM] Martin Nesbitt: most $5-10
[9:33:57 AM] Martin Nesbitt: jus the one auto generated when I installed the BC core
[9:34:50 AM] live:falitgroup: yeah well we are stuck now
[9:35:02 AM] Martin Nesbitt: anyway on the positive side I set a note on it that will make it easily recognizable in the list
[9:35:14 AM] Martin Nesbitt: so if it gets confirmed we will be able to find it easaly
[9:35:29 AM] live:falitgroup: ok so what do we do now?
[9:35:35 AM] live:falitgroup: wait a few hours? lol
[9:35:44 AM] Martin Nesbitt: ill be ogone in 30 min
[9:35:44 AM] live:falitgroup: again? LOL
[9:35:59 AM] Martin Nesbitt: wont be back for many hours
[9:36:05 AM] Martin Nesbitt: 6-8 likely
[9:36:21 AM] live:falitgroup: well i told you TEN times i won't send before i get one confirmation.... the blockchain might drop the transaction
[9:36:44 AM] Martin Nesbitt: well I have no expearence to judge that warning
[9:36:59 AM] Martin Nesbitt: just started using this program a couple days ago
[9:37:25 AM] live:falitgroup: you need to set the fees higher
[9:37:31 AM] Martin Nesbitt: it was going the other direction then and I didn't wait for it I just trusted but maybe that was wrong
[9:38:18 AM] Martin Nesbitt: O I hadn't notesed that fee thing on the botom
[9:38:29 AM] live:falitgroup: well you should LOL
[9:38:33 AM] Martin Nesbitt: got to switch rooms just a min
[9:39:01 AM] live:falitgroup: set it to minimum 0.0002 BTC per KB
[9:40:31 AM] Martin Nesbitt: im in the bathroom now remoting my main computer hehehe
[9:40:46 AM] live:falitgroup: uh thx for the info i guess
[9:40:50 AM] Martin Nesbitt: is it possible you refund that and we go again ?
[9:41:08 AM] live:falitgroup: well i can not send it to you as long as it's not confirmed mate
[9:41:16 AM] live:falitgroup: its unusable to me
[9:41:35 AM] Martin Nesbitt: can it be refunded
[9:41:41 AM] live:falitgroup: nope
[9:41:46 AM] live:falitgroup: two things can happen now
[9:41:47 AM] Martin Nesbitt: and I just send again and increace the fee
[9:41:57 AM] live:falitgroup: 1 - it will eventually confirm and i can use it
[9:42:22 AM] live:falitgroup: 2 - the blockchain will drop the transaction and it becomes available to you again and i loose it
[9:42:49 AM] Martin Nesbitt: well lets just forget that one for now and move on
[9:43:02 AM] live:falitgroup: ok but set your fees higher!!!! lol
[9:43:22 AM] Martin Nesbitt: yea wondering how to do that hehehe
[9:43:42 AM] live:falitgroup: minimum 0.0002 BTC per KB for a normal transaction
[9:44:01 AM] live:falitgroup: dont know either how to do that on bc core, i use multibit
[9:46:34 AM] live:falitgroup: alright this transaction is good
[9:46:35 AM] live:falitgroup: https://blockchain.info/tx/e70b000829eed4a39756a852b1016ab366dea81fda8026c8620d7fc6e0fa4af5
[9:46:37 AM] Martin Nesbitt: ok I set fee to 0.0003
[9:46:43 AM] live:falitgroup: Estimated Confirmation Time Very Soon (High Priority)
[9:46:46 AM] Martin Nesbitt: and sent another 20$
[9:47:08 AM] live:falitgroup: ok, wait a few for 1 confirmation
[9:48:23 AM] Martin Nesbitt: switching rooms again brb
[9:48:52 AM] live:falitgroup: lol go ahead
[9:50:15 AM] Martin Nesbitt: this is gona take to long I got to be going soon
[9:50:33 AM] Martin Nesbitt: will you be aro9und in 6-8 hours ?
[9:51:10 AM] live:falitgroup: yeah
[9:51:15 AM] live:falitgroup: will be here for a while
[9:51:19 AM] live:falitgroup: 12-14 hours
[9:51:28 AM] live:falitgroup: i have your account nr
[9:51:36 AM] live:falitgroup: i will send whatever confirms
[9:51:41 AM] live:falitgroup: $20 or $40
[9:51:42 AM] Martin Nesbitt: alright we will need to finish it when I get back then
[9:51:48 AM] live:falitgroup: ok mate
[9:52:01 AM] live:falitgroup: i'll just keep an eye on it ok?
[9:52:34 AM] Martin Nesbitt: yea well in 10 min or 5 hours all the same to me
[9:52:36 AM] live:falitgroup: and send whatever confirms to Perfectmoney USD – U5104335
[9:52:48 AM] live:falitgroup: as soon as it confirms mate
[9:53:08 AM] Martin Nesbitt: ok just saying no big rush on it cause I wont be here to complain hehehe
[9:53:17 AM] live:falitgroup: hehehe ok mate
[9:53:25 AM] Martin Nesbitt: chat later
[9:53:31 AM] live:falitgroup: later
[9:53:41 AM] live:falitgroup: PM me on BCT when you get back
[9:53:51 AM] Martin Nesbitt: ok