Secondstrade.com is a SCAM - Ask for your refund (Proof inside)

[scondstradescammers]

Here is a proof that secondstrade is rigged and its a scam please becarefull :


I used my site to send two bets at the same time automatically every 1/2 Seconds using the blockchain api and check the results :


Proof : http://s11.postimg.org/gnr9mwxhv/Capture.png



All my bets included in the SAME RECIEVING TIME (Check the seconds) while i didn't send them at the same time , (there was a 1/2 Seconds delay between evey bet).


If you are the secondstrade owner i ask you to refund my money or i will make sure to do something about this.

If this is a bug please fix it and refund my money.

Btc :1KtAUfVqKy8Te3ZjQ5tcEQp5v4F3cT7NXH  - Lost more than 1 btc in total.


EDIT:HERE IS AN OTHER PROOF THAT THE GAME IS RIGGED :


PROOF: http://s11.postimg.org/p5sszejer/prove.png



You are in big troubles SCAMMER.  

Transaction proves (The 1 second delay recieved correctly in secondstrade.com):

TX 1: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/ca638e5bfae469b34c58cb1207c5a76188964c9e95f7feb31d11f984758d26c8
TX 2: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/bef5130663e790ae8b28b7f3433eb39a2da1d90b91981738a5a4ee7ca2094bb2

Transaction proves (The 2/3 seconds delay that proves secondstrade.com is rigged - Both Recieved at the same second in Secondstrade.com even if there was a 2/3 seconds between every bet !!!):

TX 1: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/4e0de8c25e2bf380d705b5f78768027b950bfd00c125b3c872acc89dd0a8b279
TX 2: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/8909483360fed6f13b7c890ac24657d97ac998c55de1ca9337b4542b6f721eb8

Again this is a call to all members that they care about the safety of bitcointalk's members to give Secondstrade.com a negative trust until he refund all the scammed money.

EDIT: The owner replied with a mind blowing answer that proves his game is rigged :

HERE IS AN OTHER PROOF THAT THE GAME IS RIGGED :


PROOF: http://s11.postimg.org/p5sszejer/prove.png



You are in big troubles SCAMMER.  

Transaction proves (The 1 second delay recieved correctly in secondstrade.com):

TX 1: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/ca638e5bfae469b34c58cb1207c5a76188964c9e95f7feb31d11f984758d26c8
TX 2: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/bef5130663e790ae8b28b7f3433eb39a2da1d90b91981738a5a4ee7ca2094bb2

Transaction proves (The 2/3 seconds delay that proves secondstrade.com is rigged - Both Recieved at the same second in Secondstrade.com!!!):

TX 1: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/4e0de8c25e2bf380d705b5f78768027b950bfd00c125b3c872acc89dd0a8b279
TX 2: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/8909483360fed6f13b7c890ac24657d97ac998c55de1ca9337b4542b6f721eb8

Again this is a call to all members that they care about the safety of bitcointalk's members to give Secondstrade.com a negative trust until he refund all the scammed money, please help us admin or anyone strong here.

below is the  result of our site for  your transaction. there is no any problem.
you said delay is proof of scam. but we have published  about that on  Refund Policy of http://secondstrade.com/notice.html

Refund Policy
2. A delay Bet due to the delay of a bitcoin network is not a part of the refund. <---- Note: he is talking about the network Delay LOL! The money already recieved in his site as you can see in the pics above  


we also said "there is a batch program that handles incoming orders at a same time every seconds" on  the http://secondstrade.com/notice.html

if you send  two orders each 0.5 seconds, it could deal with the same second.

which  is not a scam.  we can not change the any  result with the  delay.
and we have published for it




http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=ca638e5bfae469b34c58cb1207c5a76188964c9e95f7feb31d11f984758d26c8
http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=bef5130663e790ae8b28b7f3433eb39a2da1d90b91981738a5a4ee7ca2094bb2
http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=4e0de8c25e2bf380d705b5f78768027b950bfd00c125b3c872acc89dd0a8b279
http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=8909483360fed6f13b7c890ac24657d97ac998c55de1ca9337b4542b6f721eb8

As you can see above he said clearly : "if you send  two orders each ---->0.5 seconds<----, it could deal with the same second. "

AND my transaction as you can see in the image above was 2/3 seconds delay (Check the txs above) but it was recieved at the same second!!, NOW IF THIS IS NOT A PROOF THAT SECONDSTRADE.COM IS SCAMMING PEOPLE THAN I DONT KNOW HOW TO PROVE ANYTHING ANYMORE!!!!


Note: The owner is totaly ignoring me and gone offline with no explanation or refund : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=813554.1140

[sebungkus]

maybe the owner was away on vacation. try to contact support bro

this owner : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=381676

[scondstradescammers]

I've contacted him and all he said is this (Like every other scamming sites):

"I dont know what you are saying. We have always  been honest about every thing. When you lost, we became scam??"

maybe the owner was away on vacation. try to contact support bro

this owner : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=381676

AGAIN HERE IS AN OTHER PROOF:

I used my server again to send two bets at the same time in every 1 second (The first bet : 0.002 BTC  Secondstrade SEC DOWN  and the second bet Secndstrade Sec+1 UP) And the results were mind blowing :


all my bets got included in different time!!! even if i used the same sending time as the first one .

 

[BitMaxz]

Can you give more details about this if you are telling the truth the blockchain transaction can you give us to prove that you are betting in that site?

[scondstradescammers]

Can you give more details about this if you are telling the truth the blockchain transaction can you give us to prove that you are betting in that site?

Sure check all bets here (First wallet): https://blockchain.info/address/1C5yK8Y5fZukmUqZEcz7QivHtkx6EsKa5u

(Second wallet): https://blockchain.info/fr/address/1AsBr17GSZ2vNy6gABi8NVfDnbCm7825BK


I hope a green trust member will give him a negative trust until he solve this.


Thank you.



Edit: THAT's AN OTHER PROOF BELOW, THE GAME IS TOTALY RIGGED I WONDER WHY HE HAVE NO NEGATIVE TRUST YET ?? ANYWAYS I WILL REPORT HIM EVERYWHERE INCLUDING THE INTERNET POLICE W'LL SEE  

hi? everyone?

there is a really interesting article on secondstrade.com.
i am very thank you  about this article.
this all is because  our client  have loved  our site.

this article is  below.

http://bitreview.com/binary-options/seconds-trade


thank you.

as i read about aboves link, i decided to post my transaction that i noticed to have an error but this has different case than those who were answerd by you and what was this txid will even surprise you secondstrade admin.

expire price was change and at first glance you cant see an error but when you calculate it with sha 256 generator, the real expire price will be revealed right?

Betting Transaction id : 1b8c293928d5ebfc03867ac3c5483d876b045cff0e6ee046723abd99b0d23891
Betting address : 1JLczkK6fTYiN7zjUHp5NhjnnvnYFQ6T6k
Betting asset : SECONDS5 DOWN
Betting BTC : 0.3

Betting price : 5
Betting expire price : 8

Betting start seed : 12:33:1+225.6+0+1.13248
Betting start seed convert SHA256: 57887aae1fd30a7611d28c8ead9324f39c375e7c4a96554a1adbba1ae2073741
Betting expire seed : 12:33:6+225.58+6+1.13226 ( da588ef3e046d998b8837271925e2b6abb4173601feff2079fbbaa8a92945f78 )
Betting expire seed convert SHA256: 89499887d5cae76f7f16b9b80a82b8081cc748a6b852fb0b75cb4bac68f799c6
Result : LOSE
Sorry buddy


start price was 5 and ending seed would be 5 too as generated not 8. making this bet a winner..


i have to request refund at this one admin of secondstrade.com

we refund you  about this.

txid is https://blockchain.info/tx/f69a93e20e98b8a1650a63b6bbb7cc6d7864ff3ab8dbec7933cac3877e6971ba
sorry for your inconvenience.

[scondstradescammers]

I wonder how much money he scammed ..., waiting for refunds ...  .

[scondstradescammers]

I see you people are giving negative trust only to other members so you can feel powerfull on them anyways i did all i had to do ive exposed secondstrade.com , I'm done.

[UnknownUsername]

I see you people are giving negative trust only to other members so you can feel powerfull on them anyways i did all i had to do ive exposed secondstrade.com , I'm done.

Well they said you were using double spend transactions. That explains why you need to create a newbie account to post this accusation..

[scondstradescammers]

I see you people are giving negative trust only to other members so you can feel powerfull on them anyways i did all i had to do ive exposed secondstrade.com , I'm done.

Well they said you were using double spend transactions. That explains why you need to create a newbie account to post this accusation..

Members will laugh at your stupidty as soon as they see your reply, Dont you know that anyone can see if there is a double spend in the blockchain using the TXs hash above ? well i think this is one or your ALT accounts ? or a sig money member ?  anyways just to lets you know secondstrade.com doesn't accepte double spend and pays only after 1 confirmation




Edit: Also You cant even read a fucking quote, He replied to amaclin and not me Wow i see why he keeps scamming really stupid members     i'm done! F***k Where is VOD.

please stop do this @scondstradescammers
we have don't  any scam since our site launched.

if you give us reasonable proof,  we will refund . but what you said will not be proof.
thank you.

My win bet was not payed even tx got confirmations
bet: https://blockchain.info/tx/3dffd0a4da4e5555fe5416ca8e44cc1a699af978b7d568c506f3a636104206a4

secondstrade page no longer available
http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=3dffd0a4da4e5555fe5416ca8e44cc1a699af978b7d568c506f3a636104206a4

google cache

we will check about that.  it will take some time for investing about that.
please wait some hours.  if there was any problem,we will pay you. thank you.

We ended checking your transaction.  At the time, you used double spending so many trading and you steal our money.
So, The  transaction will not be paid.

[UnknownUsername]

omg, please you're claiming that they stole from you is 1BTC but you're only providing a tx hash that only contains .002BTC bets.  

why won't you provide all the details, all of the tx that amounts to 1BTC.

your proof is weak thats why nobody gives a fuck about your tantrum.

[Battareus]

OP is just an idiot which never learn and ever cry.

[lottery248]

OP is just an idiot which never learn and ever cry.

you are probably bullying the OP.


it seems to be fishy, the network confirmation is randomly occurred, not even 10 minutes in average.
i am not sure why the binary option wasn't started before the confirmation. this 'delayed' the period thus lost the expectation.
on-chain betting has this kind of risk, most of the tx requires at least 1 confirmation because the double spending is common recently AFAIK.

[lemipawa]

I hope after creating this thread you take your time to send secondstrade a short message to let him know that you opened a thread against him to give him a chance to air his side of his story. I sen't him a PM and a link to this thread so he can answer.

[scondstradescammers]

omg, please you're claiming that they stole from you is 1BTC but you're only providing a tx hash that only contains .002BTC bets.  
why won't you provide all the details, all of the tx that amounts to 1BTC.
your proof is weak thats why nobody gives a fuck about your tantrum.

The way you talk means you're mentally sick anyways the Txs above and this thread is to pove that secondstrade.com is rigged after he admit and want to start refunding i will post all my transactions here.

I hope after creating this thread you take your time to send secondstrade a short message to let him know that you opened a thread against him to give him a chance to air his side of his story. I sen't him a PM and a link to this thread so he can answer.

I did instantly after i started this thread but he have no respect to this forum and also he is busy making BIG MONEY SINCE 2014 WITH NO RED TRUST UNTIL NOW.

[scondstradescammers]

AN OTHER PROOF , STILL NO NEGATIVE TRUST YET , REALLY BAD PLZ ANYONE HELP:

HI..

i noticed that there's an outrage player accusing you admin of something that negatively affects trust.
but instead of examining on to his complain, I decided to look upon my files containing copies of my transactions that I am also secondstrade 5secondsdown gambler who's going under a program on how to have control of my gambling after losing about 27 or more bitcoins here. responsible gambling was it.

my bitcoin wallet address used on betting s seconds down was 15UExtKxSJmNxxFDZvB6CiYcqVHqAK1MLE,
what i have noticed was theres some txid's, 7 of them in particular that were unusual. first of all this where received by seconds trade and registered to be with in his position after having 7 bets at the same time exactly.
as a matter of fact they have the same Betting start seed convert SHA256: ace26f313f3ff6a8097cc31cd4117f.
and if that were the case they should have the same Betting expire seed convert SHA256: 0dc3a9f403294f99cfdbe4ebc61674. at first four transaction they have identical results of course they were accepted at exact same time, then what happen after that was tragic. 3 consecutive lose bets came up but they even have the exact start time and start seed convert SHA256 of those first four that where winning bets.
syatem give different end seed convert sha 256 that after i noticed it now makes me so disappointed,

i lose all money on my gambling, it dosent matter now, what matters were i would like a full payout of the transactions that were obviously change resulting to a disaster damaging my bet and start losing it all.

here are the transaction id follows by secondstrade website's gave me as to verify bets were made.

win (4 bets)
cd1e79cce21a481a77d4bd3374a29803c05698275752a70c2b149d20355fbd50
59b042e01cc1d2731a31ff83e26a346a2f8ed61f1fc389ef90554b3b8cf81f05
139ea51372cd85168edac4663b4ea7f7319d4212d12f8c6021a005fb1cf555ab
d75c7ce0f62b36c87f5e6909a47dada605e1a93deed714b53ad236d57376eac0

lose ( 3 bets)
42d2b5160270dce1d3612af0d17d0741495bd4d7dc1f55f5eff60756f45f1bd0
59dc2ebd494123c80d77d18d85517b80212b7c17a7023ccfd0d7a77ac4d2ea32
6d88d873ee116c06a0528afcdfbe830cb0f7c866f10dc39be939c57e5d60db3b

3 lose bets that i would like to have full payout admin of secondstrade with 0.5 bitcoin each
0.5 x 3 x 1.8 = 2.7 bitcoins of payout you should send back to my wallet as requested.

-------------------------WIN
Betting Transaction id : cd1e79cce21a481a77d4bd3374a29803c05698275752a70c2b149d20355fbd50
Betting address : 15UExtKxSJmNxxFDZvB6CiYcqVHqAK1MLE
Betting asset : SECONDS5 DOWN
Betting BTC : 0.49927


Betting price : 2
Betting expire price : 0
Betting start seed : 12:33:31:373+225.41+5+1.12609
Betting start seed convert SHA256: ace26f313f3ff6a8097cc31cd4117fe1eeec86c2e78fd17e59074a06d1d2c258
Betting expire seed : 12:33:36:595+225.41+7+1.12629
Betting expire seed convert SHA256: 0dc3a9f403294f99cfdbe4ebc616745dc032f2c41d35fa664d42b9bcee708a12


Betting Transaction id : 59b042e01cc1d2731a31ff83e26a346a2f8ed61f1fc389ef90554b3b8cf81f05
Betting address : 15UExtKxSJmNxxFDZvB6CiYcqVHqAK1MLE
Betting asset : SECONDS5 DOWN
Betting BTC : 0.5


Betting price : 2
Betting expire price : 0
Betting start seed : 12:33:31:373+225.41+5+1.12609
Betting start seed convert SHA256: ace26f313f3ff6a8097cc31cd4117fe1eeec86c2e78fd17e59074a06d1d2c258
Betting expire seed : 12:33:36:595+225.41+7+1.12629
Betting expire seed convert SHA256: 0dc3a9f403294f99cfdbe4ebc616745dc032f2c41d35fa664d42b9bcee708a12


Betting Transaction id : 139ea51372cd85168edac4663b4ea7f7319d4212d12f8c6021a005fb1cf555ab
Betting address : 15UExtKxSJmNxxFDZvB6CiYcqVHqAK1MLE
Betting asset : SECONDS5 DOWN
Betting BTC : 0.5


Betting price : 2
Betting expire price : 0
Betting start seed : 12:33:31:373+225.41+5+1.12609
Betting start seed convert SHA256: ace26f313f3ff6a8097cc31cd4117fe1eeec86c2e78fd17e59074a06d1d2c258
Betting expire seed : 12:33:36:595+225.41+7+1.12629
Betting expire seed convert SHA256: 0dc3a9f403294f99cfdbe4ebc616745dc032f2c41d35fa664d42b9bcee708a12


Betting Transaction id : d75c7ce0f62b36c87f5e6909a47dada605e1a93deed714b53ad236d57376eac0
Betting address : 15UExtKxSJmNxxFDZvB6CiYcqVHqAK1MLE
Betting asset : SECONDS5 DOWN
Betting BTC : 0.5


Betting price : 2
Betting expire price : 0
Betting start seed : 12:33:31:373+225.41+5+1.12609
Betting start seed convert SHA256: ace26f313f3ff6a8097cc31cd4117fe1eeec86c2e78fd17e59074a06d1d2c258
Betting expire seed : 12:33:36:595+225.41+7+1.12629
Betting expire seed convert SHA256: 0dc3a9f403294f99cfdbe4ebc616745dc032f2c41d35fa664d42b9bcee708a12

----------------------------------------------LOST
Betting Transaction id : 42d2b5160270dce1d3612af0d17d0741495bd4d7dc1f55f5eff60756f45f1bd0
Betting address : 15UExtKxSJmNxxFDZvB6CiYcqVHqAK1MLE
Betting asset : SECONDS5 DOWN
Betting BTC : 0.5


Betting price : 2
Betting expire price : 9
Betting start seed : 12:33:31:373+225.41+5+1.12609
Betting start seed convert SHA256: ace26f313f3ff6a8097cc31cd4117fe1eeec86c2e78fd17e59074a06d1d2c258
Betting expire seed : 12:33:36:595+225.41+7+1.12629
Betting expire seed convert SHA256: 932b6b6233b7c8b5ccc29df61432dffade0d579b8eac1422f5666a6a7915a221


Betting Transaction id : 59dc2ebd494123c80d77d18d85517b80212b7c17a7023ccfd0d7a77ac4d2ea32
Betting address : 15UExtKxSJmNxxFDZvB6CiYcqVHqAK1MLE
Betting asset : SECONDS5 DOWN
Betting BTC : 0.5


Betting price : 2
Betting expire price : 9
Betting start seed : 12:33:31:373+225.41+5+1.12609
Betting start seed convert SHA256: ace26f313f3ff6a8097cc31cd4117fe1eeec86c2e78fd17e59074a06d1d2c258
Betting expire seed : 12:33:37:622+225.41+0+1.12632
Betting expire seed convert SHA256: 932b6b6233b7c8b5ccc29df61432dffade0d579b8eac1422f5666a6a7915a221


Betting Transaction id : 6d88d873ee116c06a0528afcdfbe830cb0f7c866f10dc39be939c57e5d60db3b
Betting address : 15UExtKxSJmNxxFDZvB6CiYcqVHqAK1MLE
Betting asset : SECONDS5 DOWN
Betting BTC : 0.5


Betting price : 2
Betting expire price : 9
Betting start seed : 12:33:31:373+225.41+5+1.12609
Betting start seed convert SHA256: ace26f313f3ff6a8097cc31cd4117fe1eeec86c2e78fd17e59074a06d1d2c258
Betting expire seed : 12:33:37:622+225.41+0+1.12632
Betting expire seed convert SHA256: 932b6b6233b7c8b5ccc29df61432dffade0d579b8eac1422f5666a6a7915a221


I repeat payout request of 2.7 bitcoins seriously requested as soon as posible admin.
this will proves that you really are fair and can always be trusted if you will soon make the pay out for all i ask

remember that I lose a lot of money but  thats my destiny so im just claiming what was rightfully mine.

will you please reply to me here,

god bless you.

AN OTHER PROOF:

take a closer look on txids and seed genereted by sha 256, did you see it below what went wrong?
of course admin will check this, then after checking he will refund.

admin pls refund me ( 0.4 btc - 0.20974302) amount requested---0.19025698btc

----- should be a ''win'' the true results on start is 3, end 3, i bet 5sec down, so?
Betting Transaction id : d2d4080a76667d808e8889ded57035966096ca9fad2546c1d4afcef0f047ff86
Betting address : 192XS8zybWUgefRMs1jPKF4iQrfqUn41iS
Betting asset : SECONDS5 DOWN
Betting BTC : 0.4

Betting price : 0
Betting expire price : 3
Betting start seed : 13:44:30:767+268.33+0+1.10642
Betting start seed convert SHA256: 3d9724348a316abc50232d5e010691c066bdd0aa3a04805e6aea8809cdfc91c4
Betting expire seed : 13:44:36:931+268.33+2+1.10629
Betting expire seed convert SHA256: 338e0e847a38d7da15cc0f829f41aaca5788678dadcd75f294af430cae5e7f7b

----lose on this admin you recognize it as a win
Betting Transaction id : 1a6d148c8c6bb65abb7275a743d707c000a93ccf3ba76b8afff50a41d57338f5
Betting address : 192XS8zybWUgefRMs1jPKF4iQrfqUn41iS
Betting asset : SECONDS5 DOWN
Betting BTC : 0.20974302

Betting price : 8
Betting expire price : 7
Betting start seed : 11:55:33:513+269.4+1+1.10425
Betting start seed convert SHA256: 1178facd3dfcae099a0ffc216e25eb15c4b40ecec90fb73ecf5dc931e65be4bd
Betting expire seed : 11:55:39:656+269.4+1+1.10425
Betting expire seed convert SHA256: a75cba8ad24e6ce93fed6ab0470892dc9f2868a5f628da2a863c21aecd632d44


final bitcoin refund request ---------- 0.19025698btc
kindly admin... waiting for answer

[Heutenamos]

AN OTHER PROOF , STILL NO NEGATIVE TRUST YET , REALLY BAD PLZ ANYONE HELP:

what could negative trust do ? you need to wait for the admin's explanation and let it get confirmed by some skilled dev..If they are sure bout their fairness then it is not likely that they will return any of your money.

[alsuper2000]

OP is just an idiot which never learn and ever cry.

can you check my post on secondstrade?
no scam accusation, just wanna be refunded at an error seed value generated dosent match to what he declared.
two txids were posted there, both with errors. .4 btc declared lose bet but true value proves thats a ''win''
while around .2 btc declared winning bet and i also posted that that should be lose bet for secondstrade's benifit.

as a hero member, i wonder if you could help me explain to admin to make the process of refunds faster.

note that on my win bet that was ''lose'', i will  never get a payout according to previous complains made by paid
players on their requests.

thank you in advance..

[EthanB]

In my experience binary options are routinely rigged to some degree. Even when you're dealing with "regulated" brokers they play with your expiry and strike. I can't say that I'm surprised, but I would highly suggest that you get out of binary options while you can.

I have personally come up thousands of dollars off of a $200 deposit with binary options and when you request a pay-out they will tell you things like "You used unfair trading methods", or tell you some other nonsense that repeatedly delays your withdrawal. You will not come out as a winner when it comes time to withdraw your winnings, or they will make sure there are no winnings.

[btcmasterZ]

secondstrade.com - scam!!!

see proof:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1392290.0