Bitcoins existence has increased the spread of child pornography

[MayorMccheese]

What do you think should be done to make bitcoin less appealing or unusable for illegal activity such as child-porn?

The problem: bitcoin's anonymity and what people here call "censorship resistance" -- difficulties it presents to regulatory intervention -- are the very things making it attractive to us and pedos. So any solution which removes anonymity/frangibility is going to be a non-starter.

You brought up a valid point about the non-profit reporting incidents they sniff out, and I'm just looking for elaboration & collaboration on how we take it far enough to police ourselves, so it is not imposed upon us. It's unfortunate they cannot enforce the laws of local jurisdictions, but only report it to undoubtedly over-worked law-enforcement.

1. Not denying that problems exist.
2. Not turning a thread about a bitcoin company working with a non-profit into "OMG, dey toork r freedomz!!"

How can we act upon their intelligence better as a community / currency ?
What can we do to police ourselves?

I'd hate to hear arguments against everything, and answers to nothing.

You're starting with a faulty assumption: all problems have (attractive) solutions. This is not the case.
I don't see any obvious solutions. Which does not mean that it's OK to lie by pretending there's no problem, or attacking those who try to ameliorate it (bitcoin startup).
Taunting Teh Man ("popo can't stop Bitcoin because disruptive blogchain technology!") is an equally bad idea.
TL;DR: no one cares if you move weight from your apartment. Jackboots only show up when your neighbors call them about crack hoes shooting up in the elevators at 3 in the morning.
If we stop assraping each other and tone down pushing ponzis, illegal gambling, dealing carded shit and pirated software *right on this forum,* things would start to get *better*. Nothing would get solved, mind you, but primum non nocere, which, according to Google, means "first, do no harm."
Baby steps.

[MayorMccheese]

Bitcoin shouldn't have to change if Paypal, fiat and everything else is not held to the same regard. In fact fiat should be expected to go the extra mile because of the simple magnitude of which it is used.

That's why I told ya earlier we agree  

You know why pedos and DNMs don't use PayPal? Can you guess?
inb4 PayPal rapes with fees: that's not it, try again.

[MayorMccheese]

To me, all laws are just ideas a person made up. Ideas come and go and change with the culture. There is nothing backing laws other than our sense of what we think should be law.

Well ya. When a bunch of people live in close proximity to each other, they come up with laws which are acceptable to them. Those who break those are punished. When these people, henceforth "society," change, the laws change too. In the mean time, they get along without killing each other, which is, arguably, a good thing.

Laws are, by definition, restrictive, so you can't always do what you want. This is a bummer, but it beats coming home and finding some bro raping your television because anarchy.

When slavery was law it was understood that other races were inferior and needed a master. Now we would consider freeing a souther slave as an heroic act and breaking the law as a good thing. We also consider the shooting rampage in Orlando to be the hideous act of a monster. But make no mistake, our great grandparents would have hoisted the shooter on their shoulders and paraded him around as a hero. He was the only person at the club that night obeying gods laws.

There are horrible, unjust laws. The people who fight those laws and break them are rebels, heroes.
This does not mean that we do not need laws, or that every douche who breaks laws is a hero.
Just like there are foods that will give you the runs like you won't believe, but this doesn't mean that all food is bad and we should just stop eating.

[RodeoX]

To me, all laws are just ideas a person made up. Ideas come and go and change with the culture. There is nothing backing laws other than our sense of what we think should be law.

Well ya. When a bunch of people live in close proximity to each other, they come up with laws which are acceptable to them. Those who break those are punished. When these people, henceforth "society," change, the laws change too. In the mean time, they get along without killing each other, which is, arguably, a good thing.

Laws are, by definition, restrictive, so you can't always do what you want. This is a bummer, but it beats coming home and finding some bro raping your television because anarchy.

When slavery was law it was understood that other races were inferior and needed a master. Now we would consider freeing a souther slave as an heroic act and breaking the law as a good thing. We also consider the shooting rampage in Orlando to be the hideous act of a monster. But make no mistake, our great grandparents would have hoisted the shooter on their shoulders and paraded him around as a hero. He was the only person at the club that night obeying gods laws.

There are horrible, unjust laws. The people who fight those laws and break them are rebels, heroes.
This does not mean that we do not need laws, or that every douche who breaks laws is a hero.
Just like there are foods that will give you the runs like you won't believe, but this doesn't mean that all food is bad and we should just stop eating.

Mayor, you and I are in agreement. Hell, my Dad was a cop. I believe in laws, but I do not think we need moire of them.

[kryptqnick]

Oh, please. It's wrong to blame money for what is done with its help

[shugareward]

I agree with others, we shouldn't blame bitcoin for something wrong, the main problem is sick people with wrong minds and unmoral behaviour, goverment intervene will not help.

[angaper]

But child pornography and sexual abuse have existed for years and even centuries before the existence of bitcoin. Of course all those illegal activities can take advantage of cryptocurrencies to carry out these criminal activities, but even if bitcoin would disappear, these activities would continue because any currency is to blame by itself, but the existence of a huge demand.

[dragonballz1]

I dont think there is any relation between child pornography with existense of bitcoin there are completely different things and bitcoin have no relation with the child pornography

[QuestionAuthority]

Wait, what? You think freaks and perverts will stop raping children if crypto currency is heavily controlled and Bitcoin has created more of them? Bitcoin has increased the spread of child pornography? I bow to the troll master. I'm in the presence of greatness. Matthew, is that you? LOL

[smho_16]

Its not because of bitcoin. Bitcoin have facilitated such things as drug, arms, and illegal prostitution or raping but these things were already happening before and will continue to happen even if bitcoin is controlled. Bitcoin got nothing to do with it.

[bitdumper]

we can not blame bitcoin for this. bitcoin is just a money processing system and it depends on us that how we use this. its the same thing like a terrorist used bitcoin for his transaction and people thinks everyone who use bitcoin is a terrorist.

[Slark]

Here we go again, so now I should be ashamed to be user of bitcoin network or whatever?
Because bitcoin is evil invention designed  to support illegal activities like watching child porn or buying drugs or illegal weapons.

Let me tell you something, there always were and always will be some sick perversion of any kind.
If you think that because bitcoin is now leading cryptocurrency and it can be used to purchase some illegal content so the market will grow bigger?

Blame guns for every death caused by firearms, blame drugs for everyone who overdosed, and never blame people for their stupidity.
This ideology will kill us someday.

[olubams]

http://qz.com/725828/a-startup-is-trying-solve-bitcoins-child-pornography-problem/

This is a very alarming article, and this is one of the reasons why the government should intervene with the bitcoin transactions to stop this kind of nefarious activities. It is not only used in pornography but also purchase of drugs and other illegal equipments. We may not know but maybe terrorists are buying weapon of mass destruction using bitcoin to terrorize cities. This is a big call to all government to monitor the illegal operations in the cryptocurrency economy. This things must be stop with the help of the government for our safety and childrens welfare.

In as much I respect your opinion , I wwill want to disagree with you on that in the sense that irrespective of Bitcoin all these social vices has been there even before the advent of Bitcoin but I agree that government should just keep watch and quench all these threats against the society but not to ban Bitcoin or control it because in as much as people are using it in a negative way, thousands are still making income through this means... My 2cents...

[AioFox]

Ah it's just a small contribution though; take for example the new Pokemon GO augmented reality game; indirectly it's causing a danger to kids and people everywhere because they are venturing in places they shouldnt go and taking risks. Its just the same for Bitcoin; it wasnt intended to increase the spread of child porn rather its used for trade exchange.

[GreenBits]

we can not blame bitcoin for this. bitcoin is just a money processing system and it depends on us that how we use this. its the same thing like a terrorist used bitcoin for his transaction and people thinks everyone who use bitcoin is a terrorist.

People have been sexualizing kids since the dawn of time. The true issue is how much easier it is to proliferate shit like this around the world, due to the advances in communication technology. This isn't a bitcoin issue, this is an internet issue. And God knows how much differently things would be if this all encompassing technology had never came to be. For better and worse; it's a necessary evil, the internet.

[mtnsaa]

This is why idealistic assholes always go on and on about "privacy" and anon coin projects, even Bitcoin was once hailed because of its privacy (that started to fade because it was actually harmful). The way I see it, there should privacy but there shouldn't be anonymity. Gun/drug dealers, pedophile, money launderers, tax evaders, etc, those are the ones that benefit and that's always the bottomline.